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It works just like a live teacher
How’s that going to work for kids who don’t know how to read?
Sure. But you would punish the unvaccinated child before they are able to do any harm, based on a decision they weren't party to?
They are not 100 percent effective
Well maybe you can keep yours in a bubble if you’re that fearful they might contact one of the undesirables. Short of that, it’s likely already happened.
this is not about punishing anyone, it is about the well being, safety and health of society in general
if one chooses to be a part of society, then one must adhere to certain rules which protect the majority of the tribe
otherwise...be gone
Then don’t use seatbelts either. Your kids will probably be fine. Probably
And yet you have no argument against affording the society rights, all you have is "That means something that I call totalitarianism, YUK!". What you fail to comprehend, most likely because your education is shoddy, is that everything in life is a balancing act, when one becomes as fundamentalist as you are bad results always follow, because you are out of sync with the Universe.
this is not about punishing anyone, it is about the well being, safety and health of society in general
if one chooses to be a part of society, then one must adhere to certain rules which protect the majority of the tribe
otherwise...be gone
And here we see the typical justification of why the government should have control over you and your kids.
Then don’t use seatbelts either. Your kids will probably be fine. Probably
Sounds awesome, but I'd be way more interested in one that put everyone who consistently drove 5 miles over the limit in isolation camps.
Let them drive around all crazy in there, so society is safe!
My kids would wear seatbelts and would have their shots. They are the only kids, though, that I have the legit right to make those decisions for.
Then don’t use seatbelts either. Your kids will probably be fine. Probably
Good point!
People who don't use seatbelts should be executed by the state.
It's a safety thing!
wow
if only you were in charge
Sure buddy
I can only hope you saw my point, subtle though it was.
no
there is no justification here at all for that except in your mind
except
if they aren't, then must insurance foot the bill because that is going to cost us all a huge amount extra...and herein lies the problem with people who want to use society for their own well being without giving a damn about the rest
Not only is it there and obvious, you doubled down on it with this.
sure, I don't see how it addressed any of my points though
If you choose to vaccinate your kids then you have nothing to fear from unvaccinated kids. AND interestingly.. its obvious that you have nothing to really fear from unvaccinated kids because kids that cannot be vaccinated because of obvious health reasons. (immunodeficiency disease, etc) are allowed waivers into public school. Which pretty much refutes the "but they put my kids at risk". If lack of vaccination put kids at risk.. then logically NO unvaccinated kids should be allowed in public school. But they are...
So the reality is that the only reason is to punish parents for not choosing to do what you want them to do.
Help me understand why it's justified to isolate unvaccinated children from society, to protect society but it's not ok to isolate people who drive outside the law.
I doubt very much we have any solid grasp on how many lives are lost or gained due to lack of vaccination. Maybe you can enlighten me there.
I expect we can get fairly accurate numbers on how many people died in auto accidents that involved speeding.
So who trying to protect society, and who's nursing pet peeves?
You're looking at this all wrong. Each individual has "certain inalienable rights." Inalienable means that neither the government can take them away from you, nor can you give them away. You posses these rights at birth, and they stay with you your entire life. The nation doesn't afford rights.
The law (the US Constitution) precludes the government's ability to limit or infringe upon rights that the people (minority or not) posses naturally by simply existing. You have the right to freedom of speech. No one gives you that right. The government damned sure doesn't give you that right. The Constitution and other laws prevent the government from limiting that right. The Constitution doesn't even give you that right, it simply recognizes that your right exists and states that the government shall not have the power to change that.
You need to change your perspective here, and look at rights differently. That's why I said you were defining totalitarianism - you still are.
like I said, in your mind...
....and in your posts.
On most levels, I can agree with that. Well done.
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