Speaks directly to my point. This is what we have to look forward to with someone drunk on authority.
So you won't tell us which committee rule was broken?
That means no rules were broken
If you can't identify any rules that were broken, then I'm ruling this entire thread "Out of Order", consistent with Robert's Rules of Order
Since no one can identify any rule that has been broken, I am declaring this thread Out of Order and requesting that members ignore it
I hope this is the take away lesson from the forum, I truly do.
Only if you can point to the by-laws that say you can judge something Out of Order.
Robert's Rules of Order notes that a presiding officer has a duty to protect the assembly from the abuse of parliamentary processes for dilatory purposes.[12] If he becomes convinced that a member is using parliamentary processes for dilatory purposes, he can rule the motions out of order or refuse to recognize the member
Why do I get the feeling that this flaming and baiting is perfectly acceptable to the current "officer(s)". Lol.
IOW, if you think a rule makes sense, it's OK for someone to impose it unilaterally without a vote.
But only if *you* think it makes sense.
No, there is a poll, forum staff defined in general, whereby:
1. Flaming, baiting and trolling in a severe disruptive manner is prohibited.
2. If so, officers may issue warning.
3. Certainly members can report this to officers.
4. The member being warned can tell their side, including on the warning thread.
5. If that member continues to violate that rule after warnings and their side, the officers can decide if action in necessary.
6. If the officers (not one officer) decide that person is only being disruptive and violation the rule, they can ask a moderator to block the person.
7. The final authority then is a moderator - a power all moderators have anyway.
Why that procedure? Because that is the procedure defined and offered by forum staff. You may not like it, but for the entire forum, ALL final decisions and all rules are by the forum staff, not us.
You can form a committee, but the final say is forum staff like always, not any non-staff committee. If you don't like how that works, there is a board in the basement to complain of forum staff structure and authority. It would break Global Forum rules to do it on Convention thread.
Did you vote yes or no in that poll? If you voted no, then don't grumble about lack of rules.
The members voted on priorities, and setting rules came in third place so it is third on the list, not first
But if you ever get elected President, feel free to overrule the wishes of the members and declare a vote irrelevant and then do whatever you want
I did not vote because the poll lacked detail. I cannot cast a vote not knowing the structure and the rules that the officers are bound by. That is the point of the rules to keep the officers in check. If I knew that the officers were in check from the collective authority of the delegates then I could most likely vote yes. But if I vote yes and then it turns out that the officers are not held to a set of rules of conduct then a yes vote created a dictatorship. ANd as it stands now that is what is going on. No one needs to get but hurt or feel that such criticisms are personal attacks because just every damn club in America requires a set of damn rules. ANd officers are bound by those rules. As it stands we have zero rules and the President already stated that he doesnt want any rules. Without those rules where does that leave us? It leaves us with a cart and no horse to pull it. ANd if it remains like this I give it about another two weeks before the whole thing explodes.
This is your last chance to identify a rule that was voted on by the members that was broken by allowing new members into the convention. If you can not identify the rule that was broken, then I will declare the entire thread Out Of Order, per Robert's Rules of Order
Think about the magnitude of all the "executive decisions" he has made just recently, and pretend they can come up with a good reason as to how this would not get abused down the road more than this arbitrary "entire thread out of order" nonsense.
So in short order we have seen vote manipulation to change vote results, awkward shifts of power on who is President, additional members added at will and now open participation, and now "out of order" thread ignore declarations all the while calling us problems.
Fantastic.
Since you quote them as an authority, I assume they have.
The members voted on priorities, and setting rules came in third place so it is third on the list, not first
But if you ever get elected President, feel free to overrule the wishes of the members and declare a vote irrelevant and then do whatever you want
And this is exactly how you view the presidency isn't it?
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