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Attention Constitutional Convention members, our President has taken it upon himself to allow additional members into the convention. Why? Apparently because he decided he wanted to... http://www.debatepolitics.com/dp-co...64-two-important-announcements-president.html
I do not recall that being voted on let alone submitted to the convention. Now, the addition of members is one (separate) thing but where did the President get the authority to make dictates?
Either this committee makes decisions for itself, or it does not.
I'd like to hear from forumites regarding this decree from the forum President, what do you think about his apparently self-imposed "executive decisions"?
I think we have about nullified the whole point of this convention, before we really did anything substantial.
Best I can tell we have had an awkward power shift with even more awkward reasoning for it, and then this decision on convention participation without the group having any say so in the matter.
Effectively what we have done is remove the power of the convention. If this is the standard going forward, then it means all decisions we by majority make could be arbitrarily voided by those in charge. The OP is right, either the convention functions as a decision making process or it does not.
We need to hear from the President, quickly, and I suggest the words are carefully selected. Else my advice is for all of us to walk away for the obvious reason that the convention as it stands is not allowed to function, so long as our purpose is removed completely at their will.
I don't see a law against admitting anyone at a later date. Do you?
Attention Constitutional Convention members, our President has taken it upon himself to allow additional members into the convention. Why? Apparently because he decided he wanted to... http://www.debatepolitics.com/dp-co...64-two-important-announcements-president.html
I do not recall that being voted on let alone submitted to the convention. Now, the addition of members is one (separate) thing but where did the President get the authority to make dictates?
Either this committee makes decisions for itself, or it does not.
I'd like to hear from forumites regarding this decree from the forum President, what do you think about his apparently self-imposed "executive decisions"?
This is WHY we elect people - to make decisions on our behalf. If we think the decision made is a bad one, or if we think it was one that should have been submitted to the convention, we can always recall the elected officers.
In this case, this is exactly the kind of thing the president and secretary should do - admit new members and keep track of them.
So far, neither officer has shown themselves prone to overreaching their office.
Let's focus on the convention business instead of being faux-offended, ok?
This is WHY we elect people - to make decisions on our behalf.
Ahh, art imitating life. How poetic.
As an observer of this interesting experiment, I think something relevant has been discovered. Forgive me for swerving a bit off topic.
It seems to me, the missing element is one that reflects our current times. That element is the human, face to face one. Thinking important issues can be communicated and negotiated via electronic means is asking too much. Compromise and stubbornness are far different when people have to sit across the table from someone. It is far easier to dig in and be combative when the only emotion is that which can be expressed in words. Thinking those words carry any real weight and import is the great folly of today's social media, and that is likely to be reflected in what is attempting to be done with this project.
I wish you well with this experiment.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...eace
Ahh, art imitating life. How poetic.
I guess I should not be surprised to see how quickly it happened.
none of us voted on that.
I think that by comparing the conventions activity and support both before and after my election, two things becomes clear:
1) There are people who are more interested in focusing on rules and procedures and those who prefer discussing the substance of the issues
2) The former leads to people leaving the convention while the latter leads to people wanting to join the convention
Actually, the membership did vote on it and voting on rules came in third
http://www.debatepolitics.com/dp-constitutional-convention/210546-poll-setting-priorities.html
We voted for one thing, and we are getting quite another.
You can claim to speak for all the members, but no one elected you anything so you only prove how dishonest your argument is when you do so.
Seems to me that this proves that a constitutional convention is nothing more than a clever smoke-screen for a tyrannical police-state takeover of this country. A complete ruse to decimate the original Constitution.
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Attention Constitutional Convention members, our President has taken it upon himself to allow additional members into the convention. Why? Apparently because he decided he wanted to... http://www.debatepolitics.com/dp-co...64-two-important-announcements-president.html
I do not recall that being voted on let alone submitted to the convention. Now, the addition of members is one (separate) thing but where did the President get the authority to make dictates?
Either this committee makes decisions for itself, or it does not.
I'd like to hear from forumites regarding this decree from the forum President, what do you think about his apparently self-imposed "executive decisions"?
Well, from an outsider's perspective (and, frankly, one who hasn't been following this whole thing) it seems to me that you all voted for a president before you voted on the Constitution. That's pretty much choosing a dictatorship right out of the blocks and, by golly, that's more or less what it seems you got.
Well, from an outsider's perspective (and, frankly, one who hasn't been following this whole thing) it seems to me that you all voted for a president before you voted on the Constitution. That's pretty much choosing a dictatorship right out of the blocks and, by golly, that's more or less what it seems you got.
Attention Constitutional Convention members, our President has taken it upon himself to allow additional members into the convention. Why? Apparently because he decided he wanted to... http://www.debatepolitics.com/dp-co...64-two-important-announcements-president.html
I do not recall that being voted on let alone submitted to the convention. Now, the addition of members is one (separate) thing but where did the President get the authority to make dictates?
Either this committee makes decisions for itself, or it does not.
I'd like to hear from forumites regarding this decree from the forum President, what do you think about his apparently self-imposed "executive decisions"?
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