This is honestly the dumbest shit I've heard all day, and I've been listening to MAGAs trying to make excuses for the collapse.If the Nazi government controlled the German economy, then it was a socialist state.
The socialists and communists climbed out, alive, from the prison camps.
The 'conservatives" had long since been murdered.
So do those businessmen bare any responsibility for bank rolling the Nazis in the first place?In the end it didn't matter, because Hitler's version of socialism turned out like they all do.
Of course they bear responsibility, and imo, they got off way too easy.
So do those businessmen bare any responsibility for bank rolling the Nazis in the first place?
Why did they get off Scott free?
I think so.
They didn't. I said they got off easy.
Why did they get off easy?
Short answer is because they were rich. All government-run (and government-created) courts are heavily biased towards the wealthy.
Huh uh. So without the government, what prevents the wealthy from abusing people directly?
The National Socialist Workers Party wasn't practicing national socialism? Absurd.Nazi Germany wasn’t a “socialist state”.
They saw the Nazis as valuable allies in crushing the German left, yes.
They co-opted the German socialist movement, eventually driving out or killing the socialists, and instituted fascism.The National Socialist Workers Party wasn't practicing national socialism? Absurd.
Oh wait, so now the government is our savior? The same government where lobbying and logrolling are practiced right out in the open?
But I'm curious as to what sort of "abuse" you are referring to. Specific examples would be nice.
I am personally curious about your listsI post the same list of examples of corporations directly abusing people and you almost always calm up afterwards. You are likely the easiest person on this site to deal with.
I can post the same list again, for the 7th time, but what's the point? It's become boring. You can never address those examples. Every time I bring up the East India company or the business plot from the 1930s, you can't deal.
I am personally curious about your lists
Do you also think the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea practices democracy?The National Socialist Workers Party wasn't practicing national socialism? Absurd.
The left was not communist. They just wanted a decent life for the working class and education for their childrenNo, they saw Nazism as an alternative to the left. Everyone saw how leftists destroyed the Russian economy, so they took a chance on Hitler's version of socialism.
He nationalized the unions, he didn't eliminated them. You can't have independent unions in a socialist state. Unions in both Nazi Germany and Communist Russia became arms of the state.
I post the same list of examples of corporations directly abusing people and you almost always calm up afterwards. You are likely the easiest person on this site to deal with.
I can post the same list again, for the 7th time, but what's the point? It's become boring. You can never address those examples. Every time I bring up the East India company or the business plot from the 1930s, you can't deal.
Here is the same old list, are you going to ignore it as usual?
There is effectively no 'far left' in the US
Trump is not a classic liberal, nor did he ever claim to be. He's a former Democrat, ffs. Here he is advocating for gun confiscation without due process: So do social conservatives count as right wingers or not? Because that is who he is pandering to. Just saying he is a former Democrat or...debatepolitics.com
Do you also think the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea practices democracy?
The Nazis were fervently nationalist, and saw socialism as a “foreign plot”.Were the Nazi's nationalists?
Prior to changing their name it was the german worker's party, which sounds socialist to me and everyone else.
Because you are talking about extremely rare situations. The average American family spends about 75K per year buying stuff from the private sector. Thousands of transactions. Where's the "abuse"?
Extremely rare?
Again, if you are average then your household spent about 75k doing business in the private sector over the last year. Explain all of the abuse you have suffered.
We are talking about major corporations, not someone doing 75k a year in business.
How many major corporations have a good human rights record?
Should defense contractors exist in your opinion if they make their money selling weapons to the government?
What about private prisons?
Your ideology fails every time it is applied to a major corporation, which will always prioritize making more money over human rights.
So you have suffered no abuse. Guess what, neither has anyone else. Yes it does happen, but it's rare. Unlike in government, where it's common.
I don't know.
So wouldn't their business model oppose your ideology? Why would they want small government? How many big corporations actually care about this stuff? What do corporations care about your ideology or making money at all costs?
No. They are also contractors.
You're not talking about human rights, you are talking about working conditions.
So do you think it's okay for corporations to abuse people in the developing world?
Also, was corporate abuse in the Gilded Age fine in your books?
Shouldn't you know that if you are saying corporations are superior to governments?
So wouldn't their business model oppose your ideology? Why would they want small government?
Those things often overlap.
Shouldn't it be a human right not to have a workplace that is so unsafe it is lethal?
Or were things like Radium Girls fine in your books?
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