When Big Business Rolled Over For Fascism, And Cashed In

[Gimmesometruth]

your constantly framing things in whatever fantasy world you live in.

If you come up with a point, let me know.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The same thing happened in Nazi Germany.

 

[Pyrite]

No, they saw Nazism as an alternative to the left. Everyone saw how leftists destroyed the Russian economy, so they took a chance on Hitler's version of socialism.



He nationalized the unions, he didn't eliminated them. You can't have independent unions in a socialist state. Unions in both Nazi Germany and Communist Russia became arms of the state.

Before the Depression, the National Socialists were losing votes. The chaos and financial hardships - along with the Nazi-induced violence - revived Hitler's chances.

Hitler celebrated trade unions one day, then (literally) shut them down the next. Workers were forced to join a new, state "union" called the German Labor Front.

 

[ConWolf]

Before the Depression, the National Socialists were losing votes. The chaos and financial hardships - along with the Nazi-induced violence - revived Hitler's chances.

Hitler celebrated trade unions one day, then (literally) shut them down the next. Workers were forced to join a new, state "union" called the German Labor Front.

Appreciate the history.

There is so much to know about what went on.

Thanks.

 

[Pyrite]

Appreciate the history.

There is so much to know about what went on.

Thanks.

You're very welcome.

 

[aociswundumho]

Hitler celebrated trade unions one day, then (literally) shut them down the next. Workers were forced to join a new, state "union" called the German Labor Front.

Yes, because you can't have independent unions under socialism, because you can't allow strikes. It was no different in the USSR, Cuba, China under Mao, etc.

Hitler supported the idea of labor unions, just like Lenin did, just like all socialists do. When Lenin sent Trotsky to murder the sailors at Kronstadt, one of the sailors' key demands was the right to form independent unions - something no socialist state could tolerate.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

John McCloy not only pardoned Krupp and restored his assets, he also pardoned Martin Sandberger, an Einsatzgruppe Commander who participated in the murder of the Jews of Riga and throughout Estonia, later becoming the Commander of the NAZI secret (SD) police in Estonia.
The pardon was due to German political pressure and "popular" sentiment.

 

[Hamish Howl]

The "socialist state" that jailed, imprisoned and gassed actual socialists and Communists along with the Jews lmao OK.

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist"

Then they came for the penguins and I don't even know what to say.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

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From left: Former Nazi diplomat Franz von Papen, financier Hjalmar Schacht and propaganda chief Hans Fritsche after their acquittal on war crimes charges in Nuremberg, Oct. 4, 1946. (Bettmann/Getty Images)


Throughout the 1920s, most of Germany's wealthy industrialists preferred to support explicitly business-friendly conservative parties, who offered a less overtly destabilizing vision for the nation's future.

At first, most wealthy Nazi supporters were a mixed bag of aimless socialites, heirs and heiresses who wanted to feel special (in this case, racially and culturally special; see Nordic Circle) and those who held antisemitic beliefs or were attracted to Hitler's call for national revanchism and perhaps to Hitler himself.

But as the Weimar Republic's economy collapsed, so did the ruling coalition led by the center-left Social Democratic Party. Popular discontent emboldened both the Nazis and the Communists, and increasingly, industrial and banking leaders came to see Hitler as the weapon they could wield to crush the radical left.

Hitler outlined plans to purge the government of leftists and eliminate trade unions, arguing that the moneyed assemblage's economic interests were best served by assertive militarism and the outright destruction of Germany's parliamentary system. "Private enterprise cannot be maintained in the age of democracy," he declared.

When big business rolled over for fascism — and cashed in

The aspiring dictator promised to crush the left and deliver big profits — so the capitalist class went all-in

www.salon.com

Sound familiar?

Fun Facts: The company I. G. Farben went on to become the Bayer Corporation. Most American corporations supported all of it.

The advantage Hitler had was the high popular support and much of the media in Germany working for him. His putting the economy into war-mode created jobs, loans from US banks made it go.

Don has the disadvantage of not being able to deliver and is getting skewered by the US and world press. The Emperor has no clothes and popular opinion can turn very quickly when ridicule sets in. Donny and MAGA does not deal with it well. His economic missteps are going to be (again) key to his diminishment.