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What would happen if the United States embraced nonviolence?

SoundEscape said:
What would happen if the United States embraced nonviolence and destroyed all of it's weapons?
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A weak US is a weak Western world and a defeat for Democracy.

I have many issues with US (understatement of the year lol) and its use of its Army but with Europe hanging itself willingly and embracing self destruction and relying on US to protect it unfairly imo, if US destroyed its weapons. We'd be slaves to Russia and perhaps that is one thing that many people do not acknowledge is just what a burden US has as a world power and it is a thankless job. Especially from across the ocean. We are very quick to jump on US when it does something wrong but rarely praise when it does something right.
 
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SoundEscape said:
What would happen if the United States embraced nonviolence and destroyed all of it's weapons?

In the words of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi,

"Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man."

Yea sure, but that was before we got nukes! Without our nuclear weapons, we might be invaded by China or North Korea. Maybe Russia! We might have to get used to the idea of calling eachother comrade. I sure hope of that our new Chinese overlords are humane, that is, if Canada doesn't beat them to the punch - god forbid.

On the other hand, maybe we will be a shining beacon of hope in the world! All of the United Nations will follow suit, except for Norway and Sweden, who think that we are all crazy because they no longer have anybody to protect them.

Sure, this idea is a bit radical. But but what if we tell the world that we are no longer going to be their police. We are no longer going to impose our idea of morality on the world by means of intimidation and warfare, and we're not going to use our power to satisfy the interest of our country, or anybody elses. We are only going to use our weapons for self defense. It might be a good first step. As the years go by, maybe a few centuries, people in other countries will start to forget about the way we use to treat the world, and begin to admire the United States as a beacon of hope. Through the use of non-cooperation and nonviolent intervention we will eventually be able to convince the people of the few armed nations left in the world to put down their guns and have peace on earth. The problem is, we have to put down our guns first. If we do that, then we have a bunch of crazy loony toons in the world like Kim Jong-Il with nukes - and theres nobody that can stop them! That's the part where Batman comes in.

-SoundEscape
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We'd be labeled the stupidest gawd damn country in history. Next question?
 
celticlord said:
Speak for yourself....I was just blaming Canada.:mrgreen::mrgreen:
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Shall I link to the "Blame Canada" song, or would that be overkill? :mrgreen:
 
SoundEscape said:
What would happen if the United States embraced nonviolence and destroyed all of it's weapons?
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Mass suicides usually produce a lot of dead bodies.

What you describe would be no different.

Stupid people deserve punishment.

It's a law of nature.
 
Councilman said:
It is always sad to see when the intellectually challenged unintelligent among us resort to name calling in a failed attempt to make for lack of ability to produce a cogent rebuttal. It's analogous to a child being caught doing something wrong and running to hide behind mommy crying.
The views expressed in the initial thread, post of unilateral disarmament are pollyannaish at best.
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I found your intellectually dishonest bloviations on the Obama administration devoid of facts and lacking any depth of knowledge to such an extent that I decided they did not warrant a cogent rebuttal.

I'm including a link so you can learn the meaning of the big boy words I used that might otherwise overwhelm your under developed ability to comprehend.
Dictionary.com
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Thanks for the link. It will be useful when I read a post from a person more adept at using eloquent prose than yourself to permeate an opinion on this forum.
 
if any country practise nonviolence the people will not survive.the world iis t o dangerous the place.
 
laila said:
a weak us is a weak western world and a defeat for democracy.

I have many issues with us (understatement of the year lol) and its use of its army but with europe hanging itself willingly and embracing self destruction and relying on us to protect it unfairly imo, if us destroyed its weapons. We'd be slaves to russia and perhaps that is one thing that many people do not acknowledge is just what a burden us has as a world power and it is a thankless job. Especially from across the ocean. We are very quick to jump on us when it does something wrong but rarely praise when it does something right.
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thank you.
 
"What would happen if the United States embraced nonviolence and destroyed all of it's weapons?"

The United States would be conquered. :doh
 
Even though I have big beefs with the United States, I would rather see it as the global hegemon than another nation such as Russia, or China. That said, the U.S. must take lessons from history for its long term survival, such as the Roman Empire, to not let internal corruption and cronyism destroy its national values, and to not let excessive pride blind it to corrosive dangers both internal and external.

The U.S., on a political level, cannot embrace non-violence because of two primary factors, both of which are connected: 1) its military-industrial complex demands semi-frequent deployment and replenishment both from a monetary perspective and a power perspective; 2) many nations around the world depend on defense from the U.S. in exchange for economic ties and continual prosperity.
 
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