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What will be the "primary basis" of your vote for POTUS?

Which will be your primary factor?

  • Strictly Ideological

    Votes: 11 19.6%

  • Candidate's platform

    Votes: 19 33.9%

  • MSM reports/opinions

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Never Trump

    Votes: 25 44.6%

  • Party loyalty

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Total voters
    56
noonereal said:
of course you can't justify it.

I have never heard a Trumpet able to justify supporting Trump honestly.
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But I just did (justify eating babies). Pay attention.
 
Overitall said:
I must admit the fact that 48% of those that voted, voted Never Trump is amazing. This poll offered other choices having nothing to do with Trump and yet the best almost most came up with is that.

I once heard it said that if you stand for nothing you fall for anything.
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There is nothing amazing about this. Only people who are not educated about the rattlesnake can possibly put their views on political issues above forcing him retire at the top of their election priorities.

"Can't stand for nothing" is a double negative, which makes it unacceptable in our language. You either can't stand for anything or can stand for nothing. Which is it?
 
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noonereal said:
Typical, 8th grade maturity

just like their cult leader
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Was it you that I stated if you’re gonna feed me garbage don’t blame me if I spit it back at you?
 
I love America, the Constitution, and individual liberty.

If the Marxist democrats seize power, all of those are gone. This election decides the future of America, whether America has a future. It is a plebiscite on our Constitution. Will we continue to be a free and sovereign nation, or will we be a vassal of a globalist cabal ruled by China?
 
Blue Donkey said:
There is nothing amazing about this. Only people who are not educated about the rattlesnake can possibly put their views on political issues above forcing him retire at the top of their election priorities.
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Policies matter and as Obama said elections have consequences. If hate for Trump is all you have that doesn’t show much confidence in what Biden is offering.
 
Overitall said:
Policies matter and as Obama said elections have consequences. If hate for Trump is all you have that doesn’t show much confidence in what Biden is offering.
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I was very clear that kicking out Trump is more important than any issue, not the only thing we care about.

Joe Biden is offering solutions to problems that were directly caused by the rattlesnake himself. He is offering solutions to problems that Trump had chances to fix, but chose not to. See the difference?
 
Blue Donkey said:
I was very clear that kicking out Trump is more important than any issue, not the only thing we care about.

Joe Biden is offering solutions to problems that were directly caused by the rattlesnake himself. He is offering solutions to problems that Trump had chances to fix, but chose not to. See the difference?
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I know you were clear. I thought I was equally clear as to it’s flaw.

Perhaps you might not have noticed (I do because I’m actually interested in what Biden is offering) but Biden is offering some of the things that Trump is already doing.
 
Overitall said:
The “Never Trump” vote intrigues me. I’ve asked those who say this to be a bit more specific as to why and many times I get the answer “Because I don’t like him.” With that response I know I’m wasting my time.
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How about this...I am a Never Trumper and it isn't about just not liking him. I don't vote for people so devoid of empathy that they can be described as a sociopath. He has zero ability to empathize and while that might not matter to some...when you are the leader of the free world you must be able to have empathy or you can never lead and have the support of the nation. GWB showed that empathy in abundance after 9/11...he brought people together in those weeks afterwards...of course there were those that tore that down in Spades..but he showed massive empathy to the horrific loss....when we faced the same during 2 devastating hurricanes, Trump could not stand up to the task...

Beyond that, I don't care if you are a Republican or a Democrat...if nearly 30 women are accusing you of sexual assault, among those some being children when it occurred..I am not voting for you... I didn't vote for Clinton and I sure as hell won't vote for Trump ever. Trump has pretty much admitted to sexual assault on a few occasions...walking into a dressing room of young girls when you know they are naked is sick and perverted and sexual assault. Also, raping a 13 year old on 4 occasions and hanging out with pedophiles is a no go for me.

Trump has a long and sordid history with racism and sexism...no, I won't vote for him period ever I don't care if he starts calling himself a socialist democrat...he did once before...
 
Overitall said:
I know you were clear. I thought I was equally clear as to its flaw.

Perhaps you might not have noticed (I do because I’m actually interested in what Biden is offering) but Biden is offering some of the things that Trump is already doing.
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Joe Biden is offering solutions to COVID-19 that Donald Trump has spent over 6 months loudly protesting. He is offering a health care plan that Donald Trump wanted to tear down.
 
ClaraD said:
How about this...I am a Never Trumper and it isn't about just not liking him. I don't vote for people so devoid of empathy that they can be described as a sociopath. He has zero ability to empathize and while that might not matter to some...when you are the leader of the free world you must be able to have empathy or you can never lead and have the support of the nation. GWB showed that empathy in abundance after 9/11...he brought people together in those weeks afterwards...of course there were those that tore that down in Spades..but he showed massive empathy to the horrific loss....when we faced the same during 2 devastating hurricanes, Trump could not stand up to the task...

Beyond that, I don't care if you are a Republican or a Democrat...if nearly 30 women are accusing you of sexual assault, among those some being children when it occurred..I am not voting for you... I didn't vote for Clinton and I sure as hell won't vote for Trump ever. Trump has pretty much admitted to sexual assault on a few occasions...walking into a dressing room of young girls when you know they are naked is sick and perverted and sexual assault. Also, raping a 13 year old on 4 occasions and hanging out with pedophiles is a no go for me.

Trump has a long and sordid history with racism and sexism...no, I won't vote for him period ever I don't care if he starts calling himself a socialist democrat...he did once before...
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Thank you for a well thought out explanation of why you don’t like Trump. It’s more than I’m accustomed to getting.

Everyone has an opinion of someone’s character flaws. I could easily look at Biden and find a few. Not long ago I criticized someone posting here for posting a picture of Biden kissing his granddaughter with the implication of Joe being in the least creepy. I found it offensive and said so. However there have been allegations that he’s sexually abused women. This coming from the women themselves. Should I believe them? No. Now if they have proof that is something to consider.

Clinton was having an affair with his intern. Most people waved that off with the claim that they didn’t care what he did in his personal life. What he did for the country was all that mattered. I somewhat agree with them. But then I wasn’t a Clinton supporter. My beef with that whole thing was that he lied under oath and tried to subjorn the witnesses.

Trump was not a politician prior to 2016. I don’t care what he did prior to that. Maybe if the accusations were proven in a court it would matter but if that had happened he would never had run. I may be wrong but a convicted criminal can’t run for President.

There are skeletons in everyone’s closet. Today the media and social networks put the light on them. But that light can be tinted with a rose colored lens.
 
Crosscheck said:
You sound so certain.

Am not so certain about the EC results. Fairly confident Biden will win the popular vote.

Are you certain enough that Trump will win you would put money on it?
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California will add 10 million illegal alien votes for Biden, but the 55 EC will go to the Communist party regardless, so again the illegal vote that democrats whine about is irrelevant. Trump will have a greater command of the EC than he did in 2016. Obviously democrats intend MASSIVE election fraud and intend to hold the results up for months. democrats don't abide by free and fair elections, as we saw in 2016. The SCOTUS will step in and in a 5 to 4 ruling force certification of the election, at which point the democrats will start a full blown civil war. The democrats are expecting the military to step in a stage a coup on their behalf, which will only start a blood bath.

All because democrats won't accept elections.
 
digitusmedius said:
Oh, I take the threat of the replacement of our republic with a fascist dictatorship by your PoS very seriously. And so do the clear majority of real Americans.
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I realize you people call everyone who disagrees with you a "fascist" and I generally brush it off as desperate dialogue.

But just this once I'll play along and ask; what exactly has Trump said or done to qualify as what you believe is a "fascist"?

Seriously; this is a chance to make your case so please try to be specific and factual rather than vague and opinionated!
 
jaypatriot said:
Compared to all 44 presidents before him? WOW!
I didn't realize you were such a presidential historian.
It must have taken you years to reach that revelation about Trump.
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Yes, compared to the 44 presidents before him, and if he loses this election, from at least the one that succeeds him.
 
jaypatriot said:
So with you it's a personality contest as opposed to what he can do that is good for the country.
I'm surprised it took you so long to come to your last paragraph.
You could have saved yourself some time just by writing "put me down as personality voter, against a raunchy, uncouth persona and for a persona that exhibits the traits of an adult"

Brevity is the soul of wit.
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I think there's quite a lot of folks out there that will be voting against Trump based on his, shall I say unique persona and personality. Depending on which side of the fence one is sitting on, that is either a good thing or a sad thing. I happen to think Trump's personality has turned quite a few folks off whether they support or oppose most of his policies. Especially swing voters, independents. We shall see come November.

I also happen to think if Trump had the personality of a Reagan, Bill Clinton or even an Obama, he might be well on his way to reelection instead of trailing by 6 or 7 points. But that is just my opinion.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
democrats are convinced that the military will help them overthrow the government on behalf of their masters in China.

Top Democrats contemplate civil war if Biden loses | Spectator USA
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The last statistic I'm aware of indicated the US Military was 70% Republican voters, so the Dems are likely to be very disappointed...

It actually does appear the Democrats are openly preparing to take the same actions they've long been accusing President Trump of for the last 4 years.

Declaring war on conservatives is foolish with soldiers like Antifa, BLM and spoiled snot-nosed college brats pretending to be Che Guevara revolutionaries.

And the closest thing to war they've ever participated in is looting, rioting and vandalizing where nobody throws rocks, bottles and fireworks, back at them.

And when the big boys are finally turned loose on them, these poor delusional idiots will be crying rivers for their mamas and asking; "what was I thinking!"
 
Empirica said:
I believe nearly every voter will each base their decision primarily on one of the following factors.

(1) Strictly Ideological ~ The GOP is committed to Capitalism / The Democrat Party has converted to Socialism.

(2) Candidate's platform ~ Candidates share the specific platforms they believe will benefit the nation.(hopefully)

(3) MSM reports/opinions ~ Undeniably; MSM is extremely ideological with access to every mind.

(4) Never Trump ~ And this factor will include both Dems and Pubs.

(5) Party loyalty ~ This factor in some cases can be a family tradition.
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Saying the repukes are for capitalism while the Dems are for socialism is just plain wrong and willfully ignorant.

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Overitall said:
Don’t look up but there are now 2 “Never Trump” votes. It would be nice if they weighed in but perhaps they can’t handle the embarrassment of not giving a rational explanation.
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How 'bout his being a pathological liar, a complete failure of leadership on covid-19 resulting in a massive death toll, using his office to enrich himself, his attempt to importune a foreign government to help his election chances just to name a few rational reasons to want him gone? Of course, the his Cult loves it when he transgresses every norm of decency.

I’ve noticed the reluctance of Democrats accepting the science when it doesn’t fit their beliefs.
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Wouldn't care to give any examples of this, would you?

At times they are more religious than people who are actually religious.
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For instance?

The latest example is where Biden is blaming the fires out west on climate change. If that’s true then climate change (as they understand it) has always been here. In any case he ignored the facts.
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Yesss, there have always been climatic changes in the Earth's history but never caused by human activity until now which what Biden was referring to. When is comes to facts you've consistently demonstrated no familiarity with those.


11 Facts About Wildfires | DoSomething.org
None of those facts argue against CAGW being the primary reason for increasing wildfire danger in the West.
 
I choose Biden over Trump for clear and obvious reasons.

Biden supports a clean earth, quality and affordable healthcare for the masses, democracy, gender equality, a robust economy and racial diversity.

Trump supports pollution, aristocracy, healthcare for less people, friendships with dictators, White Supremacy and voter suppression. Trump cares little about growing a strong, middle class.

When Trump loses, he wants his supporters to claim 'Voter Fraud' and take up arms. Trump appeals primarily to uneducated White People. Radicalized Trump Supporters bow to their King Trump.
 
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