What size is your cannon?

[Crosscheck]

First of all this isn't about gun control but didn't know quite else where to put it.

I watched a portion of comedian Bill Burr's show the other night. He talked about owning a 22 pistol for home protectiong and getting laughed at by other gun owners.

And as he compared having a 22 vs a 357 magnum it hit me that I do have a 357 next to my bedside and never thought about this one part.

Never occcurred to me. Damn, he has a point. Watch:

 

[PirateMk1]

Land based artillery or naval? I have a variety of round sizes ranging from 50mm to 550mm with shells weighing from a couple of kgs to over 2000 kgs.

 

[Bum]

Pistol: 10mm XDM
Rifle: 30-06 Noreen Carbine
Shotgun: 12 gauge Remington 870

 

[Mycroft]

British .303

 

[RF667799]

First of all this isn't about gun control but didn't know quite else where to put it.

I watched a portion of comedian Bill Burr's show the other night. He talked about owning a 22 pistol for home protectiong and getting laughed at by other gun owners.

And as he compared having a 22 vs a 357 magnum it hit me that I do have a 357 next to my bedside and never thought about this one part.

Never occcurred to me. Damn, he has a point. Watch:

Funny video. Thanks for posting it, but I didn't catch the part about comparing a .22 to a .357. I actually used to keep my little .22 Bersa as a bedside gun instead of my only other handgun at the time, a M1911A1 type .45 ACP. My rationale was that if worse came to worse, I didn't want to blow out my eardrums on top of everything else.

 

[Crosscheck]

Funny video. Thanks for posting it, but I didn't catch the part about comparing a .22 to a .357. I actually used to keep my little .22 Bersa as a bedside gun instead of my only other handgun at the time, a M1911A1 type .45 ACP. My rationale was that if worse came to worse, I didn't want to blow out my eardrums on top of everything else.

He might have been comparing it to a 38 perhaps. But the point I was making about blowing your ears out and not being able to hearing your wife yell at you that another one is behind your back.

I realize of course if one fires off a round from a 357 any other perp make high tail it out of there. I know I would.

You just think about everybody has these cannons next to their bed but when they shoot it in a shooting range they all have ear protectors on for a good reason.
Even though a 22 may not be as lethal as a 44 I think it would get someone's attention. Kind of like a bee won't kill me but I am running from it none the less.

 

[Crosscheck]

Land based artillery or naval? I have a variety of round sizes ranging from 50mm to 550mm with shells weighing from a couple of kgs to over 2000 kgs.

Cheese and Rice. You got wild elephants in your neighborhood....

 

[Crosscheck]

Pistol: 10mm XDM
Rifle: 30-06 Noreen Carbine
Shotgun: 12 gauge Remington 870

That 10mm can be as loud as a 44 sometimes. I wonder if one should keep those ear protectors right next to it.

 

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That 10mm can be as loud as a 44 sometimes. I wonder if one should keep those ear protectors right next to it.

It tends to be louder inside an indoor range than outside; but I do like how well it handles.

 

[RF667799]

He might have been comparing it to a 38 perhaps. But the point I was making about blowing your ears out and not being able to hearing your wife yell at you that another one is behind your back.

I realize of course if one fires off a round from a 357 any other perp make high tail it out of there. I know I would.

You just think about everybody has these cannons next to their bed but when they shoot it in a shooting range they all have ear protectors on for a good reason.
Even though a 22 may not be as lethal as a 44 I think it would get someone's attention. Kind of like a bee won't kill me but I am running from it none the less.

I fired one of my .45s without ear protection once at a range, and the muzzle blast reverberating off the berms was literally painful. It's funny that when I was younger I never had any problems in that respect. (Other than the time I fired a Mini-14 in our kitchen and out the back door.) I would even shoot my .357 loaded with 158 gr Super X SWC- which had a rather nasty crack- with no problem. Maybe younger eardrums are more flexible or something, but it was probably damaging my hearing in the long run.

To this day, if I'm just shooting .22 rimfire, I seldom wear hearing protection.

 

[zsu2357]

It tends to be louder inside an indoor range than outside; but I do like how well it handles.

Inside yeah but earplugs either way. My younger son and I would go up the mountain to shoot and he would stand there and watch me crack off a 7.62x39 and laugh at my reaction because I forgot my earplugs. Little shit.

 

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Inside yeah but earplugs either way. My younger son and I would go up the mountain to shoot and he would stand there and watch me crack off a 7.62x39 and laugh at my reaction because I forgot my earplugs. Little shit.

I use Peltor electronic hearing protection.....works very well

 

[ecofarm]

It's the motion.

 

[zsu2357]

I fired one of my .45s without ear protection once at a range, and the muzzle blast reverberating off the berms was literally painful. It's funny that when I was younger I never had any problems in that respect. (Other than the time I fired a Mini-14 in our kitchen and out the back door.) I would even shoot my .357 loaded with 158 gr Super X SWC- which had a rather nasty crack- with no problem. Maybe younger eardrums are more flexible or something, but it was probably damaging my hearing in the long run.

To this day, if I'm just shooting .22 rimfire, I seldom wear hearing protection.

I think younger ears are able to absorb it to a point. Gunfire and heavy machinery has pretty much shot mine. I can handle .22lr but would rather use plugs to save what I got.

 

[zsu2357]

I use Peltor electronic hearing protection.....works very well

I used hard foam OSHA approved from work, but found some good earphones that worked really good. Just some that I had laying around and decided to try.

 

[RF667799]

I think younger ears are able to absorb it to a point. Gunfire and heavy machinery has pretty much shot mine. I can handle .22lr but would rather use plugs to save what I got.

Same here. I think the damage is pretty much done. I finally started using hearing protection operating louder equipment like open 'dozers, and noticed much less fatigue at the end of the day. Still, I've spent a lot of time listening to a lot of loud diesel engines. I remember a D5 with a damn straight pipe on it....

 

[Crosscheck]

I think younger ears are able to absorb it to a point. Gunfire and heavy machinery has pretty much shot mine. I can handle .22lr but would rather use plugs to save what I got.

It is those years of accumulation of damage from loud noises.

When younger that loud noise hits our ears and knocks over the hair cells in the ear. Being young those hair cells are like a wheat field with the wind blowing on them as they bounce back up. But eventually those cells die.

I worked for 10 years as a steel worker and we never gave the noise a second thought. Bang, bang, bang and we are just standing there grinning.

Now, if in a restaurant with a lot of people I cannot hear anyone farther than one seat away. You can always spot me at a table of people as I am the one leaning forward far as possible to hear what every one is saying.

 

[PirateMk1]

Cheese and Rice. You got wild elephants in your neighborhood....

Nah, just very polite neighbors.

 

[Crosscheck]

Another great part of the video was when Bill talked about not wanting to go scuba diving due to the fear of getting eaten by a shark.
And someone using stats says, "Well actually 90% of shark attacks actually happen in shallow water".
"Its like no shite. That is where the people are".

This is actually a very sharp observation on how everyone uses stats to their benefits.

 

[Rich2018]

You never see police or soldiers wearing ear protection "in the field".

Imagine the damage to hearing that a machine gunner or his assistant must suffer in any armed conflict.

 

[RF667799]

You never see police or soldiers wearing ear protection "in the field".

Imagine the damage to hearing that a machine gunner or his assistant must suffer in any armed conflict.

Hearing protection was part of our uniform. Even in the field.

 

[Crosscheck]

Hearing protection was part of our uniform. Even in the field.

But we were young then. I knew the sound of that shockwave of that gunpowder gas exiting and the sonic boom of that speeding bullet was loud but it really didn't faze me then. It was actually rather exciting.

But now I am left with a ring in my ear and as if the noise of everything else has had its volume turned down to zero.

Now that I think about it I've never shot a gun inside a house. At the indoor shooting range they have sound absorbing walls to contain some of it. Inside one's house it would sound like a cannon.

A 22 cal pistol is not quiet either and actually surprizing as to how loud it can be but no where near the volume of a 357. Am seriously thinking about just getting something like a Ruger 22 to have.

 

[Waddy]

Lots of people get their impressions of gunfire from the movies, where nobody ever needs to reload, they can carry on conversations while firing, and even a high power gun has minimal recoil. At night the flash never blinds them and they can always see their sights.

The biggest problem I want to minimize is wall penetration. Some people favor an AR15 in .223 for home defense. That .223 55gr pointy (spitzer) bullet traveling at 3000 fps will probably penetrate every wall in your house and end up somewhere in your neighbor's home. And spare me the short barrel versions of these AR rifles; loudest report I've ever heard, and the most muzzle flash ever seen. Absolutely painful to shoot without a suppressor (silencer). BTW; a silencer really doesn't make a .223 or any powerful handgun larger than 9mm "silent". Just reduces the noise a little.

 

[RF667799]

Lots of people get their impressions of gunfire from the movies, where nobody ever needs to reload, they can carry on conversations while firing, and even a high power gun has minimal recoil. At night the flash never blinds them and they can always see their sights.

The biggest problem I want to minimize is wall penetration. Some people favor an AR15 in .223 for home defense. That .223 55gr pointy (spitzer) bullet traveling at 3000 fps will probably penetrate every wall in your house and end up somewhere in your neighbor's home. And spare me the short barrel versions of these AR rifles; loudest report I've ever heard, and the most muzzle flash ever seen. Absolutely painful to shoot without a suppressor (silencer). BTW; a silencer really doesn't make a .223 or any powerful handgun larger than 9mm "silent". Just reduces the noise a little.

So what's your choice to minimize wall penetration?

 

[Rich2018]

US soldiers on deployment in Iraq.

No hearing protection in sight...I guess the command to don hearing protection is part of any fire control order,. in the US army.