What now for g.o.p. Indeed??

[presluc]

Below is a few clips from a Yahoo news feed which ask a question of the Republican party.
Perhaps in 10 days they will know the answer , prehaps not.

What now? Why the next 10 days are the most critical of the GOP campaign?


Six months ago, political junkies were deriding this year's Republican presidential race as one of the slowest and least exciting nomination battles in recent memory. Mitt Romney looked hard to beat. Newt Gingrich's campaign appeared all but dead. And several key Republicans whom many party insiders had begged to run—including Chris Christie, Mitch Daniels, Mike Huckabee and Haley Barbour— opted out of the campaign.

Yet that boring Republican race has turned into one of the most unpredictable and chaotic presidential nominating contests in party history. With voting set to begin in a little over three weeks, the race now enters its most crucial phase. Republican voters in the early states will finally have to decide who they want to represent their party against President Obama.

The biggest question mark in Iowa could be Ron Paul, who has steadily risen in the polls in the state in recent weeks and has been drawing the biggest crowds of the 2012 contenders there. Paul's candidacy has been dismissed by many mainstream Republicans, but he is second only to Romney in his ability to raise campaign cash, which makes him a very real player in the race.

So what is this Republican debate so interesting, and has was ask previously, WHAT NOW?

Ladies and Gentlemen I await your comments and veiws on this subject.eace

 

[coolwalker]

Don't listen to the media. make your own decision based on fact, not fiction...the future BTW is fiction.

 

[presluc]

Don't listen to the media. make your own decision based on fact, not fiction...the future BTW is fiction.

So, I'm only supposed to listen to the media when they report nice things about the Republican party?

Oh I get it now, media says bad things about Republican== BAAD .. DON'T LISTEN... DON'T BELEIVE
Media says good things about Republican party=== GOOD.... LISTEN.... BELEIVE. LOLeace

 

[Wake]

I have been an ardent republican for most of my life, but now I see how much they don't care about the poor and middle classes. Disillusioned, I have lost respect for them.

 

[presluc]

I have been an ardent republican for most of my life, but now I see how much they don't care about the poor and middle classes. Disillusioned, I have lost respect for them.

It is strange but true, in 2009 I was a die hard Democrat but of truth from 2009 to the later part of 2010 I lost all respect for the Democratic party they are too weak, they were being pushed around by 3 differant factions the Republican, the Libertarian , the Tea Party, and they hardly ever pushed back.

So I became an Independent voter for " it is better to die on your feet than live on your knees."eace

 

[Blackstone]

I have been an ardent republican for most of my life, but now I see how much they don't care about the poor and middle classes. Disillusioned, I have lost respect for them.

Why? Republican policies do more to alleviate poverty than Democratic policies. Republicans are personally more giving to charity than Democrats also. Furthermore, Republicans represent a substantially larger number of church-goers (people who regularly hear and profess to believe in "love thy neighbor") than Democrats.

Besides a lot of empty rhetoric and the promise of playing "Robin Hood" to the taxpayers' "Sheriff of Nottingham", how exactly do Democrats "care" more for the poor and middle class since virtually all of their policies result in keeping people in poverty and adding to the rolls of the poor?

 

[presluc]

Why? Republican policies do more to alleviate poverty than Democratic policies. Republicans are personally more giving to charity than Democrats also. Furthermore, Republicans represent a substantially larger number of church-goers (people who regularly hear and profess to believe in "love thy neighbor") than Democrats.

Besides a lot of empty rhetoric and the promise of playing "Robin Hood" to the taxpayers' "Sheriff of Nottingham", how exactly do Democrats "care" more for the poor and middle class since virtually all of their policies result in keeping people in poverty and adding to the rolls of the poor?

I can't speak for Wake neither would I attempt to.

However the point being made by the Independent party is fact not fiction not partisan.

You just posted a post praiseing the Republican party and denounceing the Democratic party , and somewhere on some politican forum you will find an almost identical post except the Democrats will be praised anf the Republicans will be denounced.

Meanwhile out here in the streets of America the people have a problem and so far all we've heard is two parties each blaming the other, each praiseing the other.

I purpose a challenge two both the Republican and Democratic party.
If the Republicans are so bad prove it, lay it out, no chit chat, iron clad proof
If the Democrats are so bad prove it, lay it out, no chit chat, iron clad proof

On the flipside .
If the Republicans are praised for their fine work, why is America in the shape she is now and why was America left in bad shape in 2008 after 8 years of Republicans?
If the Democrats are praised for their fine work and the big change they were bringing in 2008 why is America still in an economic hole while the debt rises?

So in my humble opinion both parties have abanded the American people to play the blame game and pat each other on the back.

Where I'm from, talk is cheap and gossip is for little old ladies not the leaders of a country.eace

 

[lpast]

Never in my lifetime have I see such misinformation and misleading reports in the media...it seems like the media are now just shills for whatever the two parties want them to report.
The republican primary has been a carnival...its still a carnival....one thing is always a certainty...Ron Paul will NOT be the nominee...period. In the end most likely romney will be the nominee unless its true jeb bush jumps in..and he could possibly steal it off him....who knows...but im tired of the carnival myself personally

 

[presluc]

Never in my lifetime have I see such misinformation and misleading reports in the media...it seems like the media are now just shills for whatever the two parties want them to report.
The republican primary has been a carnival...its still a carnival....one thing is always a certainty...Ron Paul will NOT be the nominee...period. In the end most likely romney will be the nominee unless its true jeb bush jumps in..and he could possibly steal it off him....who knows...but im tired of the carnival myself personally

Once again the American people are left to vote for the lesser of two evils.eace

 

[haymarket]

Why? Republican policies do more to alleviate poverty than Democratic policies. Republicans are personally more giving to charity than Democrats also. Furthermore, Republicans represent a substantially larger number of church-goers (people who regularly hear and profess to believe in "love thy neighbor") than Democrats.

Besides a lot of empty rhetoric and the promise of playing "Robin Hood" to the taxpayers' "Sheriff of Nottingham", how exactly do Democrats "care" more for the poor and middle class since virtually all of their policies result in keeping people in poverty and adding to the rolls of the poor?

Interesting that folks of your ilk sit on high and make those sort of pompous pontifications about what is really good for the poor while the poor themselves want nothing to do with your, your party, your ideology and your candidates.

 

[presluc]

Interesting that folks of your ilk sit on high and make those sort of pompous pontifications about what is really good for the poor while the poor themselves want nothing to do with your, your party, your ideology and your candidates.

Although I still beleive that both parties are to blame knowing "what to say" to the poor , working poor and Unemployed is one thing.
Knowing "what to do" for the poor, working poor and unemployed becomes a more difficult task.

For of truth a lot of these are waiting, and waiting and waiting for something a little more tangible than TALK,TALK,TALK.eace

 

[coolwalker]

Interesting that folks of your ilk sit on high and make those sort of pompous pontifications about what is really good for the poor while the poor themselves want nothing to do with your, your party, your ideology and your candidates.

Why would they want to? They can sit back while the democrats pay for their housing, give them food stamps and free health care. there is no incentive to vote republican when you are living off the dole.

 

[coolwalker]

Although I still beleive that both parties are to blame knowing "what to say" to the poor , working poor and Unemployed is one thing.
Knowing "what to do" for the poor, working poor and unemployed becomes a more difficult task.

For of truth a lot of these are waiting, and waiting and waiting for something a little more tangible than TALK,TALK,TALK.eace

Please, enlighten me as to what year in the history of the world there hasn't been poor people. Please. Until utopia reigns, there will be poor, and people will donate to charities to help them. When they sit on their duff with their hand out we will tell them to go get a job. If they can't work, we will help...but to those too lazy to work, there are democrats that will put them up in their houses, feed them, give them clothes and give them the spare car to drive to the liquor store...right?

 

[presluc]

Please, enlighten me as to what year in the history of the world there hasn't been poor people. Please. Until utopia reigns, there will be poor, and people will donate to charities to help them. When they sit on their duff with their hand out we will tell them to go get a job. If they can't work, we will help...but to those too lazy to work, there are democrats that will put them up in their houses, feed them, give them clothes and give them the spare car to drive to the liquor store...right?

There has been and always will be poor people and people that donate to charities and taxpayers who help the poor.

However when those without jobs donate less for charities when tax payers pay less taxes , when people have less jobs they become the poor.

When the poor become the majority and taxpayers and those who donate to charities become the huge minority then America becomes a country of poor people and the population of poor people grows , while the population of taxpayers, consumers, and people who donate to charities shrinks.eace

 

[Boo Radley]

I can't speak for Wake neither would I attempt to.

However the point being made by the Independent party is fact not fiction not partisan.

You just posted a post praiseing the Republican party and denounceing the Democratic party , and somewhere on some politican forum you will find an almost identical post except the Democrats will be praised anf the Republicans will be denounced.

Meanwhile out here in the streets of America the people have a problem and so far all we've heard is two parties each blaming the other, each praiseing the other.

I purpose a challenge two both the Republican and Democratic party.
If the Republicans are so bad prove it, lay it out, no chit chat, iron clad proof
If the Democrats are so bad prove it, lay it out, no chit chat, iron clad proof

On the flipside .
If the Republicans are praised for their fine work, why is America in the shape she is now and why was America left in bad shape in 2008 after 8 years of Republicans?
If the Democrats are praised for their fine work and the big change they were bringing in 2008 why is America still in an economic hole while the debt rises?

So in my humble opinion both parties have abanded the American people to play the blame game and pat each other on the back.

Where I'm from, talk is cheap and gossip is for little old ladies not the leaders of a country.eace

I appauld your senitiment here, but suggest iron clad proof would be more than difficult to provide. However, I agree the difference in the two parties is small, though still important. And yes, I agree both are to blame as neither really works for the people, but those who contribute to their elections.

 

[haymarket]

Why would they want to? They can sit back while the democrats pay for their housing, give them food stamps and free health care. there is no incentive to vote republican when you are living off the dole.

Unless you are in the top one or two percent or are a corporate toadie or sycophant who needs to suck that particular breast to stay alive, I see no incentive for anyone voting Republican.

 

[presluc]

I appauld your senitiment here, but suggest iron clad proof would be more than difficult to provide. However, I agree the difference in the two parties is small, though still important. And yes, I agree both are to blame as neither really works for the people, but those who contribute to their elections.

Iron clad proof is difficult but not impossible.

A real close example of iron clad proof is simple mathmatics.

You have a country that is paid for by the taxpayers , taxpayers are people with jobs.
More jobs more paychecks more taxes taken out automaticly
Less jobs less taxes taken out automaticly
America has a country is trillions of dollars in debt, America also has more than one "IOU" on the books, like America owes China 93 million.
Question; who's going to pay this debt?

Less College students are hitting the workforce.
Unemployment is 8.6%
America is currently still involved militarily in Afganistan, Iraq
America's Real Estate is still down, American retail sales is mostly imported products, or why would the imports be more than the exports.
America has 1000+ protestors in the streets and they ain't happy with America's current financial policy
AMERICAN WAGES REMAIN STAGNANT WHILE THE COST OF LIVING INCHES HIGHER.

So, Iron clad proof , I do not have , but circumstancial evedince is there, and a lot of it and there is more.eace

 

[AlanF]

Interesting thread, and one has to wonder aloud if an unprojected win in Iowa by "native son" Michele Bachmann makes the dynamics surrounding this particular GOP field even more full of twists and turns.

 

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

I have been an ardent republican for most of my life, but now I see how much they don't care about the poor and middle classes. Disillusioned, I have lost respect for them.

((( Wake ))) I was in your shoes some years ago and remember how much it hurt my heart to know the party I had supported for years had become a tool for the rich and powerful.

However the point being made by the Independent party is fact not fiction not partisan.

You just posted a post praising the Republican party and denouncing the Democratic party , and somewhere on some politician forum you will find an almost identical post except the Democrats will be praised and the Republicans will be denounced.

Meanwhile out here in the streets of America the people have a problem and so far all we've heard is two parties each blaming the other, each praising the other.

I purpose a challenge two both the Republican and Democratic party.
If the Republicans are so bad prove it, lay it out, no chit chat, iron clad proof
If the Democrats are so bad prove it, lay it out, no chit chat, iron clad proof

On the flip-side .
If the Republicans are praised for their fine work, why is America in the shape she is now and why was America left in bad shape in 2008 after 8 years of Republicans?
If the Democrats are praised for their fine work and the big change they were bringing in 2008 why is America still in an economic hole while the debt rises?

So in my humble opinion both parties have abandoned the American people to play the blame game and pat each other on the back.

Where I'm from, talk is cheap and gossip is for little old ladies not the leaders of a country.eace

I wish I could like this post a dozen times. It deserves the recognition.

 

[mike2810]

Unless you are in the top one or two percent or are a corporate toadie or sycophant who needs to suck that particular breast to stay alive, I see no incentive for anyone voting Republican.

Reason 1: Pelosi
Reason 2: Reid.
how is that for an answer?

I tend to vote for the canidate I like regardless of party.

 

[misterman]

Why would they want to? They can sit back while the democrats pay for their housing, give them food stamps and free health care. there is no incentive to vote republican when you are living off the dole.

How many voters do you think you're talking about there? Most of those people probably don't vote at all.

 

[Karl]

Why? Republican policies do more to alleviate poverty than Democratic policies. [...]

 

[presluc]

Interesting thread, and one has to wonder aloud if an unprojected win in Iowa by "native son" Michele Bachmann makes the dynamics surrounding this particular GOP field even more full of twists and turns.

Although I do not claim to have a Chrystal ball.

It is my predictions that there will be a lot more twist and turns before the election of 2012 comes to an end.

I make no prediction on who will win but twist and turns are just getting started in both parties.eace

 

[presluc]

((( Wake ))) I was in your shoes some years ago and remember how much it hurt my heart to know the party I had supported for years had become a tool for the rich and powerful.I wish I could like this post a dozen times. It deserves the recognition.

You are too kind Dino.eace

 

[presluc]

Reason 1: Pelosi
Reason 2: Reid.
how is that for an answer?

I tend to vote for the canidate I like regardless of party.

Suely we are not talking reasons of one party here?

1. Cain
2. Paul
3. Trump
4 Palin
need I go on?eace