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What Matt Damon doesn't get about the US and guns

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While promoting his latest gun-toting action movie, Matt Damon took time to praise Australia for its gun-restrictive laws and unsuccessful buyback program — while also lamenting that America was not evolved enough to pass gun control measures.

Though it’s a move that has been praised by President Obama, as well as Hillary Clinton on her current campaign trail, the buyback program is simply a glossy way for the Left to deem gun control successful. Once you dig into the facts of the matter, the gun buyback program is actually a near-perfect glimpse of how little gun control actually accomplishes.

It's a shame liberal politicians and activists like Damon don't want to dig into the complicated solutions to complicated issues — things like mental health, radical Islam, etc. — or allow themselves to see the benefits of legal gun ownership.

What Matt Damon doesn't get about the US and guns | Fox News
 

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While promoting his latest gun-toting action movie, Matt Damon took time to praise Australia for its gun-restrictive laws and unsuccessful buyback program — while also lamenting that America was not evolved enough to pass gun control measures.

Though it’s a move that has been praised by President Obama, as well as Hillary Clinton on her current campaign trail, the buyback program is simply a glossy way for the Left to deem gun control successful. Once you dig into the facts of the matter, the gun buyback program is actually a near-perfect glimpse of how little gun control actually accomplishes.

It's a shame liberal politicians and activists like Damon don't want to dig into the complicated solutions to complicated issues — things like mental health, radical Islam, etc. — or allow themselves to see the benefits of legal gun ownership.

What Matt Damon doesn't get about the US and guns | Fox News

other than he being a hypocrite, I really don't pay him much heed. many actors have almost a pathological desire to be liked and he probably thinks mouthing the stuff low wattage sheep want to hear will make him popular with the herd.
 

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I'll take the number of gun deaths in Australia any day over the ones here in the U.S.
 

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I'll take the number of gun deaths in Australia any day over the ones here in the U.S.

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
- See more at: AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
 

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other than he being a hypocrite, I really don't pay him much heed. many actors have almost a pathological desire to be liked and he probably thinks mouthing the stuff low wattage sheep want to hear will make him popular with the herd.

You got it!

I'll take the number of gun deaths in Australia any day over the ones here in the U.S.

No skin off your nose .............right?

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
- See more at: AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Thanks jimbo.

Good backup stats for all the ninnies out there that think banning guns is the answer to anything. Matt Damon makes millions of dollars on a movie and yet, he's a bloody Fool!

Anyone who supports his pigheaded thinking, are ignorant turds.
 

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I'll take the number of gun deaths in Australia any day over the ones here in the U.S.
Round up the gangs and send them to Australia, and you will have comparable numbers here.
 

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Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.

Just FYI, Sexual assault is not Australia's equivalent term for rape. The equivalent term for rape would be, rape. Sexual assault refers to all non-consensual sexual violence. It includes rape, but also child sexual abuse, sexual assault etc. If you are going to compare stats you must find comparable stats.
 

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While promoting his latest gun-toting action movie, Matt Damon took time to praise Australia for its gun-restrictive laws and unsuccessful buyback program — while also lamenting that America was not evolved enough to pass gun control measures.

Though it’s a move that has been praised by President Obama, as well as Hillary Clinton on her current campaign trail, the buyback program is simply a glossy way for the Left to deem gun control successful. Once you dig into the facts of the matter, the gun buyback program is actually a near-perfect glimpse of how little gun control actually accomplishes.

It's a shame liberal politicians and activists like Damon don't want to dig into the complicated solutions to complicated issues — things like mental health, radical Islam, etc. — or allow themselves to see the benefits of legal gun ownership.

What Matt Damon doesn't get about the US and guns | Fox News

We get ignorant people when we make absolutely no effort to correct the crap gun control spews. WTF are we surprised is the only question.

Instead of bitching at the media and supposedly stupid people who are just supposed to know better, when are we going to wise up and stop this problem by putting the facts out there and challenging this garbage.

I have no idea why firearm organisation are allowed to sit on their bums doing nothing but in a position of authority they should be advising members and helping to preserve their only reason for existence, firearm ownership. Possibly firearm owners need a wake up call to demand their organisation make the effort to build opposition to gun control lies.

Or we can sit back and bitch to ourselves while the situation gets worse.
 

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I'll take the number of gun deaths in Australia any day over the ones here in the U.S.

Easy just move there. No need to do anything else and you can watch gun control at work increasing crime. Having left decreasing crime because gun control is facing a roadblock as more and more US citizens become aware of the danger of accepting ANY gun control. It's amazing how ignorance works.
 

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other than he being a hypocrite, I really don't pay him much heed. many actors have almost a pathological desire to be liked and he probably thinks mouthing the stuff low wattage sheep want to hear will make him popular with the herd.

While I disagree with him on gun control, how is he a hypocrite? Because he uses guns in movies? That is fiction.
 

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It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
- See more at: AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Wait... Let me try to get my head around this logic. You're using all these numbers and stats to prove that "less guns in a country will not mean less gun deaths?"

Just to try to clarify more you're saying:
A country that has 10 privately owned guns is going to have the same if not more gun deaths than a country that has 1 million privately owned guns.

Right?


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Wait... Let me try to get my head around this logic. You're using all these numbers and stats to prove that "less guns in a country will not mean less gun deaths?"

Just to try to clarify more you're saying:
A country that has 10 privately owned guns is going to have the same if not more gun deaths than a country that has 1 million privately owned guns.

Right?


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Not my logic. The page is a cut and paste from the linked article.
 

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While I disagree with him on gun control, how is he a hypocrite? Because he uses guns in movies? That is fiction.

He glorifies gun violence and then wants to prevent honest people from using guns in legal pursuits
 

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He glorifies gun violence and then wants to prevent honest people from using guns in legal pursuits

Sounds about right for hypocrites. All gun control advocates are hypocrites any way. They want to take guns way from the victims of crime and have absolutely no thoughts of how wrong that is at every level.
 

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Matt Damon is an idiot.
 

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It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

The purpose of the gun ban was not to stop gun deaths in general, but to stop mass shootings, which it has succeeded in spectacularly.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.

Assault and robbery don't have to involve guns. And both fell after 2006.

Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.

Sexual assault is not equivalent to rape. Sexual assault can be as much as kissing someone without consent.

Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

And then fell, completely independent of gun laws.


Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.

This shows that guns have no impact on crime, except of a very specific nature, such as mass shootings, which Australia has seen far, far fewer then the US.


Now, let's get some actual, useful data in this thread:

Australia's violent crime stats:
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In the last six years, the rate of robbery victimisation has steadily declined from 86 per 100,000 in 2007 to 58 per 100,000 in 2012. Generally, the rate of robbery victimisation has been declining since 2001.
The rate of sexual assault victimisation increased to 80 per 100,000 in 2012. The last increase in the rate of victimisation was seen in 2006. The rate of victimisation in 2012 is at a similar rate to what it was in 1996, when the rate was 79 per 100,000.
The rate of homicide victimisation has never exceeded two per 100,000 in the 17 years for which data are available. Victimisation has stayed at one per 100,000 since 2007.
In 2012, like 2011, the rate of kidnapping/abduction was three per 100,000 population; much lower than the peak of four per 100,000 in 1999.

Violent crime trends are completely independent of gun laws, so to argue that gun laws should be enacted or withdrawn on this basis is fallacious.

However, reducing the amount of guns does reduce the amount of gun homicides:
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And mass shootings:
Australian_Mass_Shooting_Victims.jpg



And that's the point people like you and Damon miss, Australia's gun ban was not to control violent crime, it was to stop mass shootings, and it has been successful.
 

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He glorifies gun violence and then wants to prevent honest people from using guns in legal pursuits

Do you expect him to advocate for the type of violence he gets paid to portray? By your logic, he's going to be a hypocrite unless he advocates for unrestricted gun laws and access, and being able to murder as he likes.
 

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Do you expect him to advocate for the type of violence he gets paid to portray? By your logic, he's going to be a hypocrite unless he advocates for unrestricted gun laws and access, and being able to murder as he likes.

Uh he should not be a bannerrhoid that is hypocrisy to be glorifying gun violence while demanding honest people cannot own firearms for honest purposes. . Your point is not valid. He wants to ban people from owning guns
 

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Uh he should not be a bannerrhoid that is hypocrisy to be glorifying gun violence while demanding honest people cannot own firearms for honest purposes. . Your point is not valid. He wants to ban people from owning guns

Right. But your argument is he's hypocritical because of the roles he portrays. His roles have nothing to do with legal gun ownership, so he would be just a hypocritical to call for gun laws to remain the same or be relaxed.
 

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Right. But your argument is he's hypocritical because of the roles he portrays. His roles have nothing to do with legal gun ownership, so he would be just a hypocritical to call for gun laws to remain the same or be relaxed.

He wants to ban legal gun ownership while making money by glorifying gun violence. No he would not be hypocritical saying law abiding people have a constitutional right to own firearms.
 

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While promoting his latest gun-toting action movie, Matt Damon took time to praise Australia for its gun-restrictive laws and unsuccessful buyback program — while also lamenting that America was not evolved enough to pass gun control measures.

Though it’s a move that has been praised by President Obama, as well as Hillary Clinton on her current campaign trail, the buyback program is simply a glossy way for the Left to deem gun control successful. Once you dig into the facts of the matter, the gun buyback program is actually a near-perfect glimpse of how little gun control actually accomplishes.

It's a shame liberal politicians and activists like Damon don't want to dig into the complicated solutions to complicated issues — things like mental health, radical Islam, etc. — or allow themselves to see the benefits of legal gun ownership.

What Matt Damon doesn't get about the US and guns | Fox News

Some of these celebrity dickheads are hypocrites when it comes to politics.

Matt Damon: Guns bad! Must have gun control!
A new movie of his is coming out....full of gun violence
HYPOCRITE!
 

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Damon should stick to acting and making movies and stop talking about topics he doesn't understand.
 

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Damon should stick to acting and making movies and stop talking about topics he doesn't understand.

He should have signs all over his property that read as follows

I am a rich self indulgent liberal and I don't believe people have a right to own firearms for self defense. His body guards of course, should be disarmed as well
 

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He wants to ban legal gun ownership while making money by glorifying gun violence. No he would not be hypocritical saying law abiding people have a constitutional right to own firearms.

Sure he would, he doesn't go through background checks or waiting periods or gun dealers in his movies. If he were to take a position based solely on what's glorified in his movies, then he should be advocating for illegal gun ownership.
 
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