What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

[chromium]

Homosexuality has it's roots in dysfunction, whether that is caused by nature or nurture is irrelevant.

Even if true, what is your point? People are born with myriad dysfunctions - deaf, blind, autistic, ADD, retardation, etc. We don't hate on or discriminate against them.

But of course, some of the most capable and highly intelligent people have been homosexual. Ever heard of Alan Turing? Created the computer you're using. Show some respect perhaps if you're capable of that.

 

[chromium]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

No, no, it doesn't work that way. The question is what are penises and vaginas designed by nature to do? Penises and vaginas obviously complement each other in a specific way that two same sexual organs do not.

This isn't a very difficult puzzle to figure out. Homosexuality is unnatural.

Talk about irrelevant...So what?! Some guy out there, or more specifically about 5% of guys like dick. Big deal!

I'm sure you partake in unnatural actions all the time as well. The internet is unnatural for christs sake. None of that matters. What matters is how you conduct yourself, how you treat others, are you a decent global citizen. That i might suck dick on the side matters only to thumpers who aren't worth taking seriously.

 

[Zinthaniel]

Even if true, what is your point? People are born with myriad dysfunctions - deaf, blind, autistic, ADD, retardation, etc. We don't hate on or discriminate against them.

He is going to leech onto this point because the things you listed are things that the medical field has been and is currently trying to cure.
- You'll get stuck in another circle with him where he tries to equate homosexuality as a affliction that should not be celebrated or tolerated but scrutinized and corrected.

It's simply not a dysfunction - and I we shouldn't give any lenience on deviation from that fact.

 

[chromium]

He is going to leech onto this point because the things you listed are things that the medical field has been and is currently trying to cure.
- You'll get stuck in another circle with him where he tries to equate homosexuality as a affliction that should not be celebrated or tolerated but scrutinized and corrected.

It's simply not a dysfunction - and I we shouldn't give any lenience on deviation from that fact.

Well that's true. I should've thought of that. But at the same time, it's all about what people prefer to live with. If you took polls, how many would *want* to be born blind or not healed of it? That's why it's an affliction. It's harmful.

Whereas most who are gay these days are at least ok if not happy with it (at least those who aren't treated horribly) and i've even met several heterosexuals who claim they'd rather be gay (usually cause they struggle greatly with opposite sex). Now who would rather be blind? In any case, homosexuality isn't harmful in any way so he can make that comparison and i'll just dismiss it.

 

[Gipper]

Even if true, what is your point? People are born with myriad dysfunctions - deaf, blind, autistic, ADD, retardation, etc. We don't hate on or discriminate against them.

But of course, some of the most capable and highly intelligent people have been homosexual. Ever heard of Alan Turing? Created the computer you're using. Show some respect perhaps if you're capable of that.

Clearly you haven't experienced the genuine fun of screwing with retards.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

What you are describing is a sexual act, much like penis in mouth, tongue in vagina, penis in ass, penis in hand, finger in vagina, and every other creative sexual activity that has not biological purpose. These are not dysfunctions. Your whole premise centers on a incomplete understanding of sex and the abstract nature of mankind.

Actually I was just limiting it to the objective natural function and purpose of a penis and a vagina together. "Creative sexual activity" can include anything and everything that is not natural. Which is exactly what homosexual sex is.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Penis and vaginas function independently of one's orientation. The sooner your accept that the better you can understand.

The sooner that you can accept that we don't accept your unnatural definitions the better you will understand that we are not here to justify your unnatural assertions about human physiology and biology in general.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

They [dogs] are not intelligent abstract animals like humans. Their functions are entirely instinctual. You are comparing night a day.

Dogs are sentient and experience joy and other emotions. Dogs are also known to mount other animals for sexual pleasure and they also masturbate.

a man should. preferably, have sex with a being who is not only intelligent enough to engage in a conversation with him but also able to consent to any sexual intercourse.

Some people are known to have sex with dead people. What "should" or should not be done is besides the point. You said previously that human beings being sentient creatures were free to engage in many kinds of experimental sexual expression (paraphrasing). You made this comment in your argument about what is natural.

There are only a few species that are believed to enjoy sex and experience pleasure during it. Dogs are not one of them. So, if anything, it would harm the animal that could not have possibly consented to the activity in the first place. Rape comes to mind.

Are we done with your sick fallacy or must we entertain more straw man?

You opened the door with your sentient creature comment. You opened the door very wide and now it appears that you feel like you need to close it a bit after I challenged you. But I can make this much simpler for you, normal human sexuality is between people of the opposite sex.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Talk about irrelevant...So what?! Some guy out there, or more specifically about 5% of guys like dick. Big deal!

I'm sure you partake in unnatural actions all the time as well. The internet is unnatural for christs sake. None of that matters. What matters is how you conduct yourself, how you treat others, are you a decent global citizen. That i might suck dick on the side matters only to thumpers who aren't worth taking seriously.

I never made a religious argument. Nature proves homosexuality to be unnatural. That must be the part that really bothers you?

 

[roguenuke]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

I never made a religious argument. Nature proves homosexuality to be unnatural. That must be the part that really bothers you?

No, it doesn't. Since all sexual activities that homosexual humans engage in occur naturally in nature, that makes homosexuality natural. Nothing about it is unnatural, that you can prove. You simply have your opinion, which is proven wrong via facts.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

No, it doesn't. Since all sexual activities that homosexual humans engage in occur naturally in nature, that makes homosexuality natural. Nothing about it is unnatural, that you can prove. You simply have your opinion, which is proven wrong via facts.

Some animals eat their own feces.

 

[roguenuke]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Some animals eat their own feces.

Which is natural. It doesn't matter if you don't approve of it or we do not do something within our species normally. We aren't talking about whether something is right or wrong (which is relative anyway) or whether it is harmful. We are talking about whether something is natural or not.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Which is natural. It doesn't matter if you don't approve of it or we do not do something within our species normally. We aren't talking about whether something is right or wrong (which is relative anyway) or whether it is harmful. We are talking about whether something is natural or not.

Penises are not designed to work with other penises.

 

[CriticalThought]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Explain the purpose of a vagina and a penis with a condom on?

This is so perfect, I think I will use it as my signature.

 

[digsbe]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

A penis puppetry show?

Explain the purpose of a vagina and a penis with a condom on?

Is the condom not an unnatural form to prevent the natural function of the penis and vagina during coital sex? It's an unnatural barrier to prevent pregnancy. That doesn't make it wrong, but it also doesn't make it natural and does circumvent the natural process of things :shrug:

 

[chromium]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

I never made a religious argument. Nature proves homosexuality to be unnatural. That must be the part that really bothers you?

No i don't care if it's "unnatural," that term is meaningless to me just as i don't care if use the "unnatural" internet.

I'm asking why do *you* care if it's unnatural. Why are *you* making a big deal of it?

 

[chromium]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Penises are not designed to work with other penises.

Most objection to gay acts revolves around anal sex....which guess what, a *huge* number of hetero couples engage in too. Why don't you go ridicule them instead?

A lot of gay couples also only partake in oral sex. Again, i'm sure over 90% of hetero couples do this too. The fact is you shouldn't be commenting on things you just can't relate to. "Penises are not designed to work with other penises" - this has no relevance to most gay couples.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

I never made a religious argument. Nature proves homosexuality to be unnatural. That must be the part that really bothers you?

So what is homosexuality if it is unnatural? A magical leprechaun spell or some laboratory produced phenomenon?

It it's unnatural it had to come from somewhere super natural or man made.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Penises are not designed to work with other penises.

Penises weren't designed. This is a creationist arginine and therefore a religious one. So this statement is dishonesty. "I never made a religious argument."

 

[CLAX1911]

The terms are thrown around quite flippantly.

Can anyone define what the gay agenda/ propaganda entails? A list maybe.

Can anyone also provide any recorded or documented incidents where Gay men or Women have tried to recruit children -an allegation used by many as well.

Ultimately I would like to see what exactly it is that those who apparently see an agenda and propaganda are seeing.

the "gay agenda" is an artificial boogie man dreamed up by phony conservatives and paranoid Christians to justify their irrational fear of that which is different. You see, some people find it easier to dream up scary stories than to rethink their backward beliefs.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

No i don't care if it's "unnatural," that term is meaningless to me just as i don't care if use the "unnatural" internet.

I'm asking why do *you* care if it's unnatural. Why are *you* making a big deal of it?

I wouldn't bother with him. He is completely dishonest. He made this statement

Penises are not designed to work with other penises.

penises weren't designed they evolved.

His arguments are religious and therefore absurd.

He is making a stink about it to appease his God.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Okay, then which 'orientation' is more likely to attempt to place two penises together? Not heterosexuals.

When do homosexuals place two penis's together. Please describe how this is even possible.

Two penises together is about as good of an example of dysfunction as you can demonstrate.

Even if we assume this is possible, it is not dysfunctional in any way shape or form. You look at sexual behavior as having a singular purpose. It does not.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Homosexuality has it's roots in dysfunction, whether that is caused by nature or nurture is irrelevant.

Not in the least. Again, you do not seem to understand the difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

No, no, it doesn't work that way. The question is what are penises and vaginas designed by nature to do? Penises and vaginas obviously complement each other in a specific way that two same sexual organs do not.

This isn't a very difficult puzzle to figure out. Homosexuality is unnatural.

It occurs in nature, therefore homosexuality is natural. Sexual activity has several different purposes.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Well that is an interesting take on it. A dog is a sentient being as well, so I guess a man having sex with his favorite sentient being is just exploring other abstract behavior in order to bond together? If it feels good to the man and the dog, hey why not?

I always find it entertaining when you guys start comparing homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia. You guys always seem to forget that neither is a sexual orientation, and neither animals nor children can actually consent to sex. When you guys do this, you argue with the appeal to the absurd logical fallacy.