What is going to be done with the babies?

[Rawley]

Which one will you adopt ?

DO you really want to get into my personal life and choices?

 

[americanwoman]

First, the demise of Roe V Wade does not force any woman to go through with her pregancy. It simply returns the issue to the states. Some states will have more restrictions then others, however abortion was not nationally deemed illegal. Second you assumption that every woman who does give birth to a child they did not want is going to treat it poorly, is ludicrous. With few exceptions they either keep the baby, love it and take good care of it or offer it for adoption.

You are also assuming much that it's only a few exceptions.

I remember back when Nebraska enacted a state "safe haven" law but forgot to add in specifically it was for infants within 30 days only and we had people flying in from all over dumping their kids, many teens. Let's not be naive and pretend the majority of people will fall in love with the baby and not resent what they didn't even want.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/outintheopen/unintended-consequences-1.4415756/how-a-law-meant-to-curb-infanticide-was-used-to-abandon-teens-1.4415784#:~:text=With%20a%20Safe%20Haven%20Law,days%20to%2030%20days%20old.

Most kids between 10 and 17​

What happened next stunned the former state senator. It wasn't infants, but kids and teens being abandoned, many at hospital emergency wards. Most were between the ages of 10 and 17.

Laura Peet-Erkes worked on the front lines as a social worker at one of those hospitals, Creighton University in Omaha. She said one or two kids got dropped off every week. She can't remember getting any infants.

"Some of the kids were dropped off and walked in by their parents who gave us an extensive history about everything that they'd been dealing with ... [T]here were other parents who literally dropped their kids off and drove away," she said.

 

[minnie616]

DO you really want to get into my personal life and choices?

You asked and even looked up the children who were waiting to be adopted , so I thought you might be interested.

Anyway, kids of all ages are in need of adoption.

They should be considered also.

As an aside my nephew was 4 years old when he was adopted.

 

[minnie616]

You are also assuming much that it's only a few exceptions.

I remember back when Nebraska enacted a state "safe haven" law but forgot to add in specifically it was for infants within 30 days only and we had people flying in from all over dumping their kids, many teens. Let's not be naive and pretend the majority of people will fall in love with the baby and not resent what they didn't even want.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/outintheopen/unintended-consequences-1.4415756/how-a-law-meant-to-curb-infanticide-was-used-to-abandon-teens-1.4415784#:~:text=With%20a%20Safe%20Haven%20Law,days%20to%2030%20days%20old.

Heartbreaking.

But thanks for sharing your eye opening post and the link.

 

[Rawley]

You asked and even looked up the children who were waiting to be adopted , so I thought you might be interested.

Anyway, kids of all ages are in need of adoption.

They should be considered also.

As an aside my nephew was 4 years old when he was adopted.

You attempted to link abortion to the number of kids in foster care. There is no connection. As the link you provided shows, there are few babies under a year available for adoption.

 

[justabubba]

First, the demise of Roe V Wade does not force any woman to go through with her pregancy. It simply returns the issue to the states. Some states will have more restrictions then others, however abortion was not nationally deemed illegal. Second you assumption that every woman who does give birth to a child they did not want is going to treat it poorly, is ludicrous. With few exceptions they either keep the baby, love it and take good care of it or offer it for adoption.

curious. how many special needs children are you raising as a foster parent?

 

[justabubba]

Actually , only one percent of U.S. women give a newborn up for adoption.

The New Question Haunting Adoption

At a glance, America’s shortage of adoptable babies may seem like a problem. But is adoption meant to provide babies for families, or families for babies?

www.theatlantic.com

Also : According to the latest statistics the majority of children waiting to be adopted spend between two and five years in the foster care system while they wait and generally the older they are the less likely they are to be adopted

if those foster kids are not adopted by age 8 they will likely age out in foster care

 

[Lursa]

DO you really want to get into my personal life and choices?

So then why do you want to do the same to women you dont even know?

 

[minnie616]

You attempted to link abortion to the number of kids in foster care. There is no connection. As the link you provided shows, there are few babies under a year available for adoption.

Actually, I had stated earlier that only percent of US weomen gave a newborn up for adoption.

Actually , only one percent of U.S. women give a newborn up for adoption.

The New Question Haunting Adoption

At a glance, America’s shortage of adoptable babies may seem like a problem. But is adoption meant to provide babies for families, or families for babies?

www.theatlantic.com

Also : According to the latest statistics the majority of children waiting to be adopted spend between two and five years in the foster care system while they wait and generally the older they are the less likely they are to be adopted

And I posted that Child Protective Services had over 450,000 children for adoption.
Then you responded to that post asking how were many under a year

Well said.

There are 450,000 kids currently in foster care…
Those of you who are happy about Roe being overturned
please reach out to CPS to foster a child.

How many babies? Under a year?

But now you changed the goal posts. ( since you cannot refute what I actually posted )

So in reply I will link the following article.

New Texas Law Means More Unwanted Children Placed with Private Companies​

As The State's New Abortion Law Creates More Unwanted Babies, Another Law Funnels Them to Facilities Run by GOP Donors​

From the article:

. With the new law limiting alternative options, the state is paying to place more kids in residential treatment centers run by private companies, some of which are big GOP donors. One of them is GEO Group, the private prison operator.

New Texas Law Means More Unwanted Children Placed with Private Companies

On September 1, 666 new laws went into effect in Texas. Some of them stoked significant controversy, especially the abortion law, ...

tyt.com

 

[Scrabaholic]

You would never adopt a child?

I would never place a child for adoption.

 

[MAGAnificent]

curious. how many special needs children are you raising as a foster parent?

How many of them are you raising as a foster parent?

 

[MAGAnificent]

You are also assuming much that it's only a few exceptions.

I remember back when Nebraska enacted a state "safe haven" law but forgot to add in specifically it was for infants within 30 days only and we had people flying in from all over dumping their kids, many teens. Let's not be naive and pretend the majority of people will fall in love with the baby and not resent what they didn't even want.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/outintheopen/unintended-consequences-1.4415756/how-a-law-meant-to-curb-infanticide-was-used-to-abandon-teens-1.4415784#:~:text=With%20a%20Safe%20Haven%20Law,days%20to%2030%20days%20old.

It is a relatively few exceptions.

 

[FurriesRock]

Nothing will be done to help the children or the mothers. These are mostly poor black and brown kids and moms so who cares? /sarc

Racism strawman...

The judges say.... WEAK!

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

DO you really want to get into my personal life and choices?

I don't know, it only seems fair at this point, doesn't it?

 

[americanwoman]

It is a relatively few exceptions.

I'd like to be a naive optimist too and think, except for a few exceptions, babies are born to loving families or the second a baby is born they receive the care and love they deserve but I think reality is a lot colder and depressing.

 

[Renae]

With respect:

In all seriousness:

I'm asking these questions again. What are the plans for dealing with pregnant girls, women, fetuses, and formerly unwanted babies?

Again, seriously, although this probably won't seem serious:

Are the babies going to be raised by religious conservative families? Is the bottom line that religious conservatives are trying to change their voting bloc from a minority to a majority by seizing the fruits of the means of reproduction?

When you start seeing the unwanted as deserving death a dangerous world you have created.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I'd like to be a naive optimist too and think, except for a few exceptions, babies are born to loving families or the second a baby is born they receive the care and love they deserve but I think reality is a lot colder and depressing.

Perhaps in your world. In my world most babies are born into loving families. I was one of the second babies you speak of. Perahps you are speaking of life in the inner cities where families have been destroyed by decades of perhaps well intentioned but disasterous LBJ era Great Society programs?

 

[americanwoman]

Perhaps in your world. In my world most babies are born into loving families. I was one of the second babies you speak of. Perahps you are speaking of life in the inner cities where families have been destroyed by decades of perhaps well intentioned but disasterous LBJ era Great Society programs?

I hope on topics like this I am actually wrong. I just think of how many kids (that I know) are not really planned, parents changing partners, and just a general lack of family values all around.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I hope on topics like this I am actually wrong. I just think of how many kids (that I know) are not really planned, parents changing partners, and just a general lack of family values all around.

To be honest, many children born into loving familes are not planned and for the most part it's not a problem. As for parents changing partners and lack of family values, that unfortunately does occur and often with negative consequences for children.

 

[poppopfox]

Perhaps in your world. In my world most babies are born into loving families. I was one of the second babies you speak of. Perahps you are speaking of life in the inner cities where families have been destroyed by decades of perhaps well intentioned but disasterous LBJ era Great Society programs?

Geographically, Southern states tend to have the highest percentage of single-parent households, with Louisiana leading the nation at just over 40 percent. Mississippi, South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia all report percentages of at least 35 percent.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Geographically, Southern states tend to have the highest percentage of single-parent households, with Louisiana leading the nation at just over 40 percent. Mississippi, South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia all report percentages of at least 35 percent.
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The worst of it is in the inner cities in every state.

 

[americanwoman]

The worst of it is in the inner cities in every state.

That's really not the case. Look at MS - the state which has the highest single parent statistics and compare it around.

Jefferson county MS has a population of only 7,129, so not exactly the inner city, but they have a 86% single parent household compare to Jackson county MS with a population of 142,872, more "inner city" yet has a 35% single parent household.

Single-Parent Households with Children as a Percentage of Households with Children (5-year estimate) in Jefferson County, MS

Graph and download economic data for Single-Parent Households with Children as a Percentage of Households with Children (5-year estimate) in Jefferson County, MS (S1101SPHOUSE028063) from 2009 to 2023 about Jefferson County, MS; single-parent; MS; 5-year; households; and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

Single-Parent Households with Children as a Percentage of Households with Children (5-year estimate) in Jackson County, MS

Graph and download economic data for Single-Parent Households with Children as a Percentage of Households with Children (5-year estimate) in Jackson County, MS (S1101SPHOUSE028059) from 2009 to 2023 about Jackson County, MS; Pascagoula; single-parent; MS; 5-year; households; and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

 

[minnie616]

Geographically, Southern states tend to have the highest percentage of single-parent households, with Louisiana leading the nation at just over 40 percent. Mississippi, South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia all report percentages of at least 35 percent.
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Correct.

Many parents in red states encourage their daughters to be single moms.

Percentage of single mother households in the U.S. 2019, by state | Statista​

This graph shows the Percentage of households led by a female householder with no spouse present with own children under 18 years living in the household in the U.S.
www.statista.com

 

[What if...?]

I would need crayons and I don't have any

You should stop eating them.

 

[justabubba]

I'd like to be a naive optimist too and think, except for a few exceptions, babies are born to loving families or the second a baby is born they receive the care and love they deserve but I think reality is a lot colder and depressing.

since you chose to address the reality we are facing, about one out of five pregnancies is aborted. there were 3.6 million children born in 2020. had abortions not been available to mothers that year, 4.5 million babies would have been born. after the supreme court decision, we will now be looking at up to 900,000 babies born to mothers who do not want to birth those children in addition to the number of children who ordinarily enter department of social services custody annually

besides being extraordinarily expensive for government, it is very difficult for social services staff to currently place children in licensed foster care facilities. in my community, there are children who must spend the night in the social services offices, under care of social workers, only because there are inadequate beds available to serve the present foster child population. that does not even address the dire inadequacy of facilities for special needs children in the system

i will look forward to seeing the pro-life politicians ante up the dollars in city, county, state, and federal governments. show us how ****ing pro-life you actually are