What is going on with the kung fu audit in arizona?

[humbolt]

Where did you get the information?
Provide the specific source or are you to embarrassed to provide it?

Trying to shift the burden back to me, fails. You have yet to provide your sources. I provided one. You have done nothing to show the information is wrong.

I already told you, and I posted a link earlier in the thread, and that link has many internal links you could also follow.

Therefore, your shifting burden thingy fails. Further, you're right there in AZ. I'm on the other side of the country and don't have local news feeds. Somehow I'm managing to find this information, and you aren't. I think it may be because you don't care to look.

 

[SCrider]

These two events are not comparable. Mueller was aware within the first month of hid imvestigation that Trump was innocent of any collusion. That means the very basis of the appointment of a special counsel was settled. The rest was just a witch hunt, and there were a few minor witches found, but none bearing any significant relationship to the primary justification of the investigation.

None of that remotely applies to Maricopa county. Nobody is possibly facing criminal charges at this juncture. But when you have 120,000 excess ballots with no explanation for their existence, it's pretty reasonable to want to have a look at things a little closer. The county's lack of cooperation tells me they won't willingly participate in events that may cast them in a bad light. I don't blame them, but if there's nothing to see there, why bother putting up road blocks?

wow not one thing you posted is even remotely the truth.

 

[mike2810]

I already told you, and I posted a link earlier in the thread, and that link has many internal links you could also follow.

Therefore, your shifting burden thingy fails. Further, you're right there in AZ. I'm on the other side of the country and don't have local news feeds. Somehow I'm managing to find this information, and you aren't. I think it may be because you don't care to look.

Since we disagree, I will go with my sources.

Prove this information is wrong

Just the Facts

recorder.maricopa.gov

 

[justabubba]

wow not one thing you posted is even remotely the truth.

the facts are against him and his ilk
that's why they must make things up

such as insisting Mueller knew there was nothing to investigate, despite the reality that tRump refused to provide sworn testimony

the cult is not on fumes; they are on empty

 

[humbolt]

You mean the briefing. Sorry it is so full of errors

Then why are you accepting Logan. They have not made there report public other than the dog and pony show given to Fann. A briefing where other than Fann and her stooge was allowed to ask questions.

Tell me, Why does Cyber Ninjas need a router that was never part of the voting equipment system?

Tell me, What proof did Cyber Ninjas provide that the system was not "air gapped".

Tell me, Why Cyber Ninjas call a "switch" a "router"

Maybe we should audit Cyber Ninjas server. They hooked up a wifi router to their servers. They say it was not turned on. What proof do we have that is true.

You have fallen for "prove a negative". Prove your router or modem was not used to hack into the Cyber Ninjas server?

It is clear you have accepted the bs from Logan. I tend to deal with facts and not bs.

You do? You seem painfully unaware of any information but the BS Maricopa county spews. I have read their "fact" sheet. The routers aren't air gapped. That's a lie. Here's Jack Sellers, Maricopa County BOS Chairman, the guy who made the air gapped claim literally undoing himself:

“The physical routers commanded in the January subpoenas route network access across 50 different County departments, not just the Elections Department.”

So apparently you do deal in BS.

 

[humbolt]

Is there a reason not to link to the source for those numbers? That's how it normally works.

You can read all about it from any source you choose if you look for the preliminary report of the audit to the AZ Senate. I posted a link earlier, but I'm not a news outlet. I'm an ordinary citizen.

 

[humbolt]

I am not frightened of the audit, I doubt anyone is. There is no reason to give a company who has no experience in this work doing an audit that has no reason to happen any consideration at all.

Dorsn't matter. The audit results will be independently checked, and certainly checked by the courts, which is where this is headed.

 

[humbolt]

Care to provide a link to what election laws AZ violated?
If you got the 14,000 number from the briefing it is just Logan's opinion. Isn't it interesting that there is no documents available to the public that Cyber Ninjas has provided to back up anything they have said.

So provide a link to another source that proves 14,000 unregistered people voted.

Other than your opinion you have yet to disprove anything Maricopa County has published about the audit.

You mean, other than Jack Sellers' blatant lie? You can trust people like that if you want, but I won't.

My suggestion is for you to wait for the complete report rather than dismissing it before you've actually seen and read it. Are you so full of hatred for Trump that you'll throw election integrity to the wind in order to get him? That's really sad. This isn't about Trump.

 

[humbolt]

wow not one thing you posted is even remotely the truth.

You're in awe then. And you part of the same group here still convinced Trump colluded with Russia. Needless to say, you aren't in a position to judge the veracity of others.

 

[mike2810]

You mean, other than Jack Sellers' blatant lie? You can trust people like that if you want, but I won't.

My suggestion is for you to wait for the complete report rather than dismissing it before you've actually seen and read it. Are you so full of hatred for Trump that you'll throw election integrity to the wind in order to get him? That's really sad. This isn't about Trump.

Here is the rub I have with your post style.
- Your said. "You mean, other than Jack Sellers' blatant lie?" and not state what the lie was and prove it is a lie with a source. You did neither.

- I will give your suggestion all the attention it deserves. (done)

- Where have I made it about Trump? It is more about Logan and Cyber Ninjas.

- So why do you accept the preliminary findings by Logan instead of waiting for the final report?

Are you saying that everything on the County website regarding the audit is false?

 

[SCrider]

You're in awe then. And you part of the same group here still convinced Trump colluded with Russia. Needless to say, you aren't in a position to judge the veracity of others.

Yeah, I'm in awe that with all the real info available, a grown ass adult would still choose to live in a Trumpian fantasy land like you do.

 

[Quag]

Dorsn't matter. The audit results will be independently checked, and certainly checked by the courts, which is where this is headed.

So you mean the audit will be audited?
yeah thats a pointless never ending circle of failure
I cant see this sham getting near a court

 

[jnug]

You should already be familiar with Logan's prrliminary report to the Senate. That's my source.

I'm not attributing any veracity to Maricopa county officials until they release all the devices etc. requested by Senate subpoena. I won't attribute much veracity to the audit either until those devices and information are made available for inspection and analysis. But given the county appears to be hiding shit, I'm willing to give Logan more credibility... for now. That could change.

If I were them, I would not give up another thing.

 

[jnug]

If the machines were already compromised, it makes no difference. Besides, the machines themselves aren't the problem. Vote tabulation could be done with an abacus. It's the people running such things that are the problem.

This would suggest that you are justifying the compromising of the machines by assuming they were compromised in the first place. Like I posted earlier, confirmation bias. In fact you would appear to be wallowing in uber confirmation bias.

 

[jnug]

You're getting repetitious, and saying it more than once doesn't add weight.

Trying to break through cement heads is tough, REPETITIVE work.

 

[US&THEM]

I already told you, and I posted a link earlier in the thread, and that link has many internal links you could also follow.

Therefore, your shifting burden thingy fails. Further, you're right there in AZ. I'm on the other side of the country and don't have local news feeds. Somehow I'm managing to find this information, and you aren't. I think it may be because you don't care to look.

This will age so well.

 

[jnug]

I'll wait for the audit report.

I believe it's entirely possible that highly partisan democrat election workers already manipulated machines in various states. And I'm not tasked with proving squat. That's for others who have some expertise in the various fields associated with modern elections.

Like Cyber Ninja???? Ah-huh

 

[jnug]

I'll wait for the audit report.

I believe it's entirely possible that highly partisan democrat election workers already manipulated machines in various states. And I'm not tasked with proving squat. That's for others who have some expertise in the various fields associated with modern elections.

Ahhhh....YOU BEILEIVE. I thought so.

 

[mike2810]

You do? You seem painfully unaware of any information but the BS Maricopa county spews. I have read their "fact" sheet. The routers aren't air gapped. That's a lie. Here's Jack Sellers, Maricopa County BOS Chairman, the guy who made the air gapped claim literally undoing himself:

“The physical routers commanded in the January subpoenas route network access across 50 different County departments, not just the Elections Department.”

So apparently you do deal in BS.

sigh.
Election Department is not the same as the voting system.
Do you know what an "air gap" system is? I suspect the answer is no.

 

[CaughtInThe]

they can't prove that Trump should be President so they're simply drawing this thing out as long as possible.


that's the goal now.

 

[NolanVoyd]

I've read about those first two audits. They weren't nearly so comprehensive.

I'll wait and see what the report says when it's released. Ir's pretty interesting that Maricopa County has withheld the routers, among other things.

The report is not valid.

The process was corrupt.

 

[justabubba]

was unable to locate the Washington Post Jennifer Rubin article, but this raw story article indicates the DOJ appears to have a low opinion of the process of the cyber ninja turtle audit crew

https://www.rawstory.com/a-new-doj-memo-puts-the-unprofessional-arizona-election-audit-on-thin-ice/

 

[humbolt]

Here is the rub I have with your post style.
- Your said. "You mean, other than Jack Sellers' blatant lie?" and not state what the lie was and prove it is a lie with a source. You did neither.

- I will give your suggestion all the attention it deserves. (done)

- Where have I made it about Trump? It is more about Logan and Cyber Ninjas.

- So why do you accept the preliminary findings by Logan instead of waiting for the final report?

Are you saying that everything on the County website regarding the audit is false?

I gave the quote from Sellers himself in which he inadvertently contradicts himself. It comes from the Just the Facts postings from Sellers and BOS. You referred me to it, so I assumed you're familiar with all of that. I guess not.

We both know you've been outspokenly opposed to Trump. That's reasonable. But I don't think that you or others here have the ability to separate Trump from potential election fraud. If you and others could do that, at least some of you would let Logan and the others do their work, and let 'em sink or swim based on the results. If it's a sham, it won't take long to uncover it. If it's not a sham - and you have to know it'll be tested - then we have larger problems. For me, this is about 2022. The 2020 election is over.

 

[Roadvirus]

Kung Fu ballots? HI-KEEBA!!

 

[jnug]

Worth noting the absurd circumstances under which the Arizona FAKE Audit got started.

On a party-line 16-14 vote, the Senate passed Senate Bill 1408. The proposal, sponsored by Sen. Warren Petersen, R-Gilbert, would give the legislature the express authority to subpoena ballots, election equipment and information from counties, and explicitly states that the legislature has the authority to investigate any matter — and to ignore all other laws in the process.

You can read the test of the Bill if you want. Its on-line. In other words, the Arizona State Senate on a Party line vote declared itself above the law. As absurd as some of these new Election Laws are, Arizona Senate Bill 1408 pretty much takes the award for absurdity....maybe even retires the trophy.

Frankly, IMO if I were an Arizona resident, I would be looking to hide the Judge's gavel and looking for a padded room for the President of the Arizona Senate.