What is a racist?

[Irredentist]

Consider an observation furtively voiced by many who interact with civil servants: that government is riddled with people who have been promoted to their level of incompetence because of pressure to have a staff with the correct sex and ethnicity in the correct proportions and positions. Are these just anecdotes? Or should we be worrying about the effects of affirmative action on the quality of government services? It would be helpful to know the answers, but we will
not so long as the taboo against talking about group difference prevails.

- Charles Murray, from "The Inequality Taboo"

http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf

In my experience, white government employees are just as incompetent as black ones.

 

[Thom Paine]

About ten on alt right web sites. Maybe more. I try to disregard insults. Those who insult me do so because they have strong opinions and weak minds. They are unworthy of my attention.

This is a serious question pertaining to this topic... I rarely receive an answer of any type to that question; you have responded in a seemingly honest fashion.. I mean not a personal affront with the following.
What do you see as the thought process of meeting one or a few persons, who ascribe to a certain thought and having a specific or assumed association, then extrapolating that experience to include
hundreds, thousands, or millions?

 

[bomberfox]

Someone tell me what “innate” difference there is between a heterosexual man and a homosexual man is to justify discrimination.

 

[Citizen]

Racism is always systemic. If it's not systemic then it's not racism, merely prejudice. The ideology of racial superiority was designed intentionally to justify a racial hierarchy which already existed in the American colonies.

All of us remain under the influence of that ideology, regardless of whether we knowingly subscribe to it or not.

Systemic racism is governmental policies. So all racism does not necessarily have to be systemic. A racist can live next door to you and not allow his kids to play with yours. He is practicing racism. But if the neighbors across the street allow their children to play with yours. The neighbor next door is practicing individual racism.

 

[SmartCat]

White wingers should cherish their last gasp. Its going to end pretty soon.

I predict that centuries from now historians will attribute the decline and fall of Western civilization to multi racialism. Civilization will continue to exist and thrive in Eastern Europe and in the Far East. After rejecting the lies of Marxist Leninism and Maoism the people of Eastern Europe and China find it easy to reject the lies that "Race is only a social construct," and "We are all the same under the skin. If you have children, try to get them to learn Mandarin, Russian, or both.

As the sun sets on the West it rises on the East. The East is not red; it is where the future is.

The East Is Red 东方红 - YouTube

As governments in the West become less able to govern well there may be a restoration of tribes in the West. Tribes exist when the government is weak, ineffectual, or non existent. Tribes will begin as armed militias formed to protect members' lives and property from marauding gangs of criminals.

 

[watsup]

This is a serious question pertaining to this topic... I rarely receive an answer of any type to that question; you have responded in a seemingly honest fashion.. I mean not a personal affront with the following.
What do you see as the thought process of meeting one or a few persons, who ascribe to a certain thought and having a specific or assumed association, then extrapolating that experience to include
hundreds, thousands, or millions?

You call it Republicanism. That’s what they do all the time. They supposedly know exactly what exactly what every Democrat, liberals, or progressive thinks just by watching FOX.

 

[Citizen]

How can you say that whites benefit from white privilege when universities and employers, especially in the government, practice affirmative action?

We are talking about systemic racism here. Not affirmative action

 

[watsup]

I predict that centuries from now historians will attribute the decline and fall of Western civilization to multi racialism. Civilization will continue to exist and thrive in Eastern Europe and in the Far East. After rejecting the lies of Marxist Leninism and Maoism the people of Eastern Europe and China find it easy to reject the lies that "Race is only a social construct," and "We are all the same under the skin. If you have children, try to get them to learn Mandarin, Russian, or both.

As the sun sets on the West it rises on the East. The East is not red; it is where the future is.

The East Is Red 东方红 - YouTube

As governments in the West become less able to govern well there may be a restoration of tribes in the West. Tribes exist when the government is weak, ineffectual, or non existent. Tribes will begin as armed militias formed to protect members' lives and property from marauding gangs of criminals.

So you have racist conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?

 

[Citizen]

Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and J. Philippe Rushton readily acknowledge that Orientals tend to be superior to members of their own race. By "superior" I mean more intelligent.

A feeling of superiority over another race is racism

 

[bomberfox]

I predict that centuries from now historians will attribute the decline and fall of Western civilization to multi racialism. Civilization will continue to exist and thrive in Eastern Europe and in the Far East. After rejecting the lies of Marxist Leninism and Maoism the people of Eastern Europe and China find it easy to reject the lies that "Race is only a social construct," and "We are all the same under the skin. If you have children, try to get them to learn Mandarin, Russian, or both.

As the sun sets on the West it rises on the East. The East is not red; it is where the future is.

The East Is Red 东方红 - YouTube

As governments in the West become less able to govern well there may be a restoration of tribes in the West. Tribes exist when the government is weak, ineffectual, or non existent. Tribes will begin as armed militias formed to protect members' lives and property from marauding gangs of criminals.

Yawn. Sorry but the turner diaries is a work of bad fiction. Its republicans who constantly attack government to weaken it so they can privatize things. Just look at donald trump. He is demonstrating that its white wingers that destroy societies.

 

[Casper]

As far as university admissions are concerned the best way to overcome that, if it even happens, is not to ask about the race of applicants. Ivy League universities used to have quotas to restrict the number of Jews in the student body.

As far as employment is concerned, that is a personal decision. Bosses want to hire people they will enjoy working with, and people who will get along well with their co workers. Once I was fired from a job as a shipping and receiving clerk because I listened to classical music at work. My co workers thought that was hoity toity.

Some bosses do not like Negroes. Some bosses do not like Jews. Some bosses do not like Orientals. Nevertheless, Jews and Orientals still tend to earn better incomes than white Gentiles, because bosses recognize that they tend to be more intelligent than white Gentiles. Consequently a boss who dislikes Jews, Orientals, or both will be inclined to hire them anyway, knowing that they are likely to perform well on the job.

Wow, you don't see it when it even when you are saying it.
Oh as for Orientals being smarter, you don't have much experience working with them if you think that, I have and it is far from the truth. The real reason Orientals tend to do well academically is the family unit and how hard they push their children to do well, same goes for Indian children, has nothing to do with intelligence levels.

 

[SmartCat]

This is a serious question pertaining to this topic... I rarely receive an answer of any type to that question; you have responded in a seemingly honest fashion.. I mean not a personal affront with the following.
What do you see as the thought process of meeting one or a few persons, who ascribe to a certain thought and having a specific or assumed association, then extrapolating that experience to include
hundreds, thousands, or millions?

I am not sure if I understand your question, but I will try to respond to it. I think one should evaluate a point of view on its face value, and not try to attack the person who has the point of view. Hostility to Jews and Orientals angers me. When someone expresses hostility to them I calmly point out that Jews and Orientals tend to perform and behave well.

 

[bomberfox]

Jared Taylor? Lol! Alt reichers do love to cite their self published pseudo journals.

 

[bomberfox]

I am not sure if I understand your question, but I will try to respond to it. I think one should evaluate a point of view on its face value, and not try to attack the person who has the point of view. Hostility to Jews and Orientals angers me. When someone expresses hostility to them I calmly point out that Jews and Orientals tend to perform and behave well.

Just not anyone else. Look sucking up to other people wont hide your racism.

 

[SmartCat]

Wow, you don't see it when it even when you are saying it.
Oh as for Orientals being smarter, you don't have much experience working with them if you think that, I have and it is far from the truth. The real reason Orientals tend to do well academically is the family unit and how hard they push their children to do well, same goes for Indian children, has nothing to do with intelligence levels.

RACE, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE BRAIN: THE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS OF THE REVISED EDITION OF S. J. GOULD'S THE MISMEASURE OF MAN, By Professor J. Philippe Rushton

Department of Psychology
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario N6A 5C2

Gould withholds from his readers that The Bell Curve is mainly an empirical work about the causes of social stratification and that it reached its conclusions only after fully analyzing a 12-year longitudinal study of 12,486 youths (3,022 of whom were African American) which showed that most 17-year-olds with high IQs (Blacks as well as Whites) went on to occupational success by their late 20s and early 30s whereas many of those with low IQs (both Black and White) went on to welfare dependency. The average IQ for African Americans was found to be lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 115, respectively, pp. 273-278). Failure to mention these data fosters the false belief that IQ tests are not predictive and are biased in favor of North Europeans.

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SAT and ACT Scores by Race/Ethnicity: 2003

In recent years the noted pattern of test scores has reflected similar numbers--
Editor, 2005

SAT Ethnic Group Scores (Math/Verbal+total)

• American Indian---482/480 (962)
• Asian American-----575/508 (1083)
• African American-----426/431 (857)
• Puerto Rican----457/448 (905)

Other Hispanic----464/457 (921)

• White-----534/529 (1063)
• Other ----513/501 (1014)

Source: College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools

Average ACT Composite Score by Race/Ethnicity, 2003
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• African American ----16.9
• American Indian---18.7
• Caucasian---- 21.7
• Mexican American----18.3
• Asian American---- 21.8
• Hispanic----19.0
• Other ----19.3
• Multiracial-----20.9
• Prefer Not to Respond -----21.8
• No Response-----20.1

Source: The ACT - Solutions for College and Career Readiness | ACT

SAT and ACT Scores by Race/Ethnicity

 

[bomberfox]

Wow, you don't see it when it even when you are saying it.
Oh as for Orientals being smarter, you don't have much experience working with them if you think that, I have and it is far from the truth. The real reason Orientals tend to do well academically is the family unit and how hard they push their children to do well, same goes for Indian children, has nothing to do with intelligence levels.

Then again when it comes to intelligence, alt reichers tend to glom onto an insufficient understanding of heritability then morph it into biological essentialism which is not what heritability is about. Charles Murray is once again peddling junk science about race and IQ - Vox

We can still take many of the bog standard science parts of intelligence studies and still show that Murray still grasped at any straw he could find to promote his pre-supposed policy prescriptions.

 

[Irredentist]

Systemic racism is governmental policies. So all racism does not necessarily have to be systemic. A racist can live next door to you and not allow his kids to play with yours. He is practicing racism. But if the neighbors across the street allow their children to play with yours. The neighbor next door is practicing individual racism.

Systemic racism does not have to be government policy, it is simply racism that has become normalized and commonplace within society. Individual expressions of racism are merely one aspect of the broader picture, and cannot be understood separately from it.

 

[SmartCat]

Jared Taylor? Lol! Alt reichers do love to cite their self published pseudo journals.

How are Jared Taylor's assertions "pseudo?" Quote something he has written, and explain why it is not true, documenting your assertions.

 

[Thom Paine]

So discrimination against black people is ok because some scientists think they're not as intelligent as white people, on average? What kind of bull**** is that? Whatever happened to judging people as individuals?

A black candidate should be judged equally to a white one, and anything else is illegal discrimination.

That is the exact argument that is being quashed or overlooked.

 

[watsup]

RACE, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE BRAIN: THE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS OF THE REVISED EDITION OF S. J. GOULD'S THE MISMEASURE OF MAN, By Professor J. Philippe Rushton

Department of Psychology
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario N6A 5C2

Gould withholds from his readers that The Bell Curve is mainly an empirical work about the causes of social stratification and that it reached its conclusions only after fully analyzing a 12-year longitudinal study of 12,486 youths (3,022 of whom were African American) which showed that most 17-year-olds with high IQs (Blacks as well as Whites) went on to occupational success by their late 20s and early 30s whereas many of those with low IQs (both Black and White) went on to welfare dependency. The average IQ for African Americans was found to be lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 115, respectively, pp. 273-278). Failure to mention these data fosters the false belief that IQ tests are not predictive and are biased in favor of North Europeans.

Article...

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Guidance, Scholarships, Money and Info Gateways
(For Students, Parents, College Advisors, Mentors,
and Cultural Groups)
==========================



SAT and ACT Scores by Race/Ethnicity: 2003

In recent years the noted pattern of test scores has reflected similar numbers--
Editor, 2005

SAT Ethnic Group Scores (Math/Verbal+total)

• American Indian---482/480 (962)
• Asian American-----575/508 (1083)
• African American-----426/431 (857)
• Puerto Rican----457/448 (905)

Other Hispanic----464/457 (921)

• White-----534/529 (1063)
• Other ----513/501 (1014)

Source: College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools

Average ACT Composite Score by Race/Ethnicity, 2003
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• African American ----16.9
• American Indian---18.7
• Caucasian---- 21.7
• Mexican American----18.3
• Asian American---- 21.8
• Hispanic----19.0
• Other ----19.3
• Multiracial-----20.9
• Prefer Not to Respond -----21.8
• No Response-----20.1

Source: The ACT - Solutions for College and Career Readiness | ACT

SAT and ACT Scores by Race/Ethnicity

Yes, we know that you have had your racist fun today. But the question remains: why are you so proud of being one? Are you religious? Do you think that your God approves? If so, you had best get an asbestos suit ready for the afterlife, because you are going to be very surprised.

 

[Thom Paine]

Don't bother, unless you have something meaningful to contribute.

my responses to your commentary is appropriate.

 

[Irredentist]

That is the exact argument that is being quashed or overlooked.

Of course. SmartCat is doing an excellent job of demonstrating how white people justify their belief in the inferiority of black people.

 

[TheParser]

1. The word "racist" means different things to different people.

2. President Trump's enemies call him a "racist."

3. They cite various examples as proof.

a. He publicly said that he prefers immigrants from Norway rather than from certain other countries.
b. He was vociferous in condemning the Central Park rape case suspects who were later cleared by a court.
c. He did not want certain renters in his apartments.
d. He refuses to feel guilt for being an American of European ancestry.
e. He used a broad brush to describe criminals who are undocumented immigrants.
f. He keeps referring to COVID-19 as the "Chinese virus."
g. He cast doubt on a judge's impartiality because of his (the judge's) ethnicity.
h, He does not want low-income housing in the suburbs.

His enemies sincerely feel that just those eight examples are enough to brand him a "racist."

Some people (including me) sincerely feel that those eight examples do NOT necessarily make him a "racist."

No one is going to change his/her mind on this topic except through some kind of personal experience (either positive or negative).

As an impartial observer, I think that many Americans have accepted the accusation that he is a "racist" and that he will lose on November 3.

Today in the United States, the most damning word that can destroy your career is "racist." (When I was a teenager in the 1950s, it was "Communist" and later -- believe it or not -- "liberal.")

 

[Irredentist]

my responses to your commentary is appropriate.

I did not question its appropriateness, merely its value.

 

[Thom Paine]

"Orientals"? :lol:

It is correct ... those from the Orient area of Asia.
as an example, India is part of Asia.. but they aren't referred to as Asians...