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What is a racist?

SmartCat said:
That is not the view of Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and J. Philippe Rushton. That would imply that every Negro is less intelligent than every member of every other race. Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and J. Philippe Rushton believe that average differences in intelligence exist between the races, and that they are caused primarily by genetic differences.
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So what? Is there a point here, or are you just using this as a chance to show your own racism in a backhanded way by quoting others.
 
SmartCat said:
As far as university admissions are concerned the best way to overcome that, if it even happens, is not to ask about the race of applicants. Ivy League universities used to have quotas to restrict the number of Jews in the student body.

As far as employment is concerned, that is a personal decision. Bosses want to hire people they will enjoy working with, and people who will get along well with their co workers. Once I was fired from a job as a shipping and receiving clerk because I listened to classical music at work. My co workers thought that was hoity toity.

Some bosses do not like Negroes. Some bosses do not like Jews. Some bosses do not like Orientals. Nevertheless, Jews and Orientals still tend to earn better incomes than white Gentiles, because bosses recognize that they tend to be more intelligent than white Gentiles. Consequently a boss who dislikes Jews, Orientals, or both will be inclined to hire them anyway, knowing that they are likely to perform well on the job.
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So discrimination against black people is ok because some scientists think they're not as intelligent as white people, on average? What kind of bull**** is that? Whatever happened to judging people as individuals?

A black candidate should be judged equally to a white one, and anything else is illegal discrimination.
 
Irredentist said:
You can be "racist" without being "a racist", in the sense that while you may not consciously believe in racial superiority, your actions may still express subconscious racist assumptions.

Racism is an insidious force that affects us all. Whether we openly subscribe to the ideology or not, we are still complicit in it, and must work to undo the negative impacts of racism wherever possible.
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Latent racism. It's hard to find a Republican who does not fit this definition. And then there is their great leader the OUTRIGHT racist Trump.
 
SmartCat said:
Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and J. Philippe Rushton readily acknowledge that Orientals tend to be superior to members of their own race. By "superior" I mean more intelligent.
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More backhanded racism from you by quoting others. That is a very cowardly manner in which to express your racism. Why not just be a mensch and come right out and say it.
 
Racist: anyone who disagrees with a Leftist, or crticizes any black politician.
 
watsup said:
Latent racism. It's hard to find a Republican who does not fit this definition. And then there is their great leader the OUTRIGHT racist Trump.
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It is hard to find a Liberal who does not think that any person that disagrees with them is a racist, sexist, guilty of fill in the blank "ism".
 
watsup said:
So what? Is there a point here, or are you just using this as a chance to show your own racism in a backhanded way by quoting others.
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By the definition of racism I grew up with, I am quite innocent.

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SmartCat said:
How can you say that whites benefit from white privilege when universities and employers, especially in the government, practice affirmative action?
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And why do you think that there is affirmative action? Specifically because of white privilege. Before affirmative action, the applications for employment and education were simply tossed in the wastebasket when the race was marked "black". Affirmative action changed that to give minorities a better chance to gain said employment and education. And it has been one of the most successful programs ever of the federal government, given how many black families have risen to middle class status since its implementation.
 
White wingers should cherish their last gasp. Its going to end pretty soon.
 
SmartCat said:
As far as university admissions are concerned the best way to overcome that, if it even happens, is not to ask about the race of applicants. Ivy League universities used to have quotas to restrict the number of Jews in the student body.

As far as employment is concerned, that is a personal decision. Bosses want to hire people they will enjoy working with, and people who will get along well with their co workers. Once I was fired from a job as a shipping and receiving clerk because I listened to classical music at work. My co workers thought that was hoity toity.

Some bosses do not like Negroes. Some bosses do not like Jews. Some bosses do not like Orientals. Nevertheless, Jews and Orientals still tend to earn better incomes than white Gentiles, because bosses recognize that they tend to be more intelligent than white Gentiles. Consequently a boss who dislikes Jews, Orientals, or both will be inclined to hire them anyway, knowing that they are likely to perform well on the job.
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Negroes? Really? Well it didn't take long for you to show your own racism rather than that of those who you quote. Must make you very proud, eh?
 
SmartCat said:
As far as university admissions are concerned the best way to overcome that, if it even happens, is not to ask about the race of applicants. Ivy League universities used to have quotas to restrict the number of Jews in the student body.

As far as employment is concerned, that is a personal decision. Bosses want to hire people they will enjoy working with, and people who will get along well with their co workers. Once I was fired from a job as a shipping and receiving clerk because I listened to classical music at work. My co workers thought that was hoity toity.

Some bosses do not like Negroes. Some bosses do not like Jews. Some bosses do not like Orientals. Nevertheless, Jews and Orientals still tend to earn better incomes than white Gentiles, because bosses recognize that they tend to be more intelligent than white Gentiles. Consequently a boss who dislikes Jews, Orientals, or both will be inclined to hire them anyway, knowing that they are likely to perform well on the job.
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Ah yes, and now the backhanded "blacks are lazy" inference.
Yes, we know that you are a full-blown racist. But why are you so proud of being so?
 
watsup said:
And why do you think that there is affirmative action? Specifically because of white privilege. Before affirmative action, the applications for employment and education were simply tossed in the wastebasket when the race was marked "black". Affirmative action changed that to give minorities a better chance to gain said employment and education. And it has been one of the most successful programs ever of the federal government, given how many black families have risen to middle class status since its implementation.
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Eugenics is why he thinks black people are just shoehorned in when in reality those applications are rejected when they have black sounding names. Minorities Who 'Whiten' Job Resumes Get More Interviews - Harvard Business School Working Knowledge
But hey tie breakers are what we gotta worry about amirite?
 
"I'm not a racist, I just believe the evidence, except the ones that I don't agree with."
 
watsup said:
And why do you think that there is affirmative action? Specifically because of white privilege. Before affirmative action, the applications for employment and education were simply tossed in the wastebasket when the race was marked "black". Affirmative action changed that to give minorities a better chance to gain said employment and education. And it has been one of the most successful programs ever of the federal government, given how many black families have risen to middle class status since its implementation.
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Consider an observation furtively voiced by many who interact with civil servants: that government is riddled with people who have been promoted to their level of incompetence because of pressure to have a staff with the correct sex and ethnicity in the correct proportions and positions. Are these just anecdotes? Or should we be worrying about the effects of affirmative action on the quality of government services? It would be helpful to know the answers, but we will
not so long as the taboo against talking about group difference prevails.

- Charles Murray, from "The Inequality Taboo"

http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf
 
watsup said:
Negroes? Really? Well it didn't take long for you to show your own racism rather than that of those who you quote. Must make you very proud, eh?
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Of course he has no evidence of this and yes he is a full blown racist ahem “race realist”
 
SmartCat said:
Consider an observation furtively voiced by many who interact with civil servants: that government is riddled with people who have been promoted to their level of incompetence because of pressure to have a staff with the correct sex and ethnicity in the correct proportions and positions. Are these just anecdotes? Or should we be worrying about the effects of affirmative action on the quality of government services? It would be helpful to know the answers, but we will
not so long as the taboo against talking about group difference prevails.

- Charles Murray, from "The Inequality Taboo"

http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf
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People know it was about race because that was one of his excuses for getting rid of educational programs. People are not oblivious to subtext.
 
SmartCat said:
Consider an observation furtively voiced by many who interact with civil servants: that government is riddled with people who have been promoted to their level of incompetence because of pressure to have a staff with the correct sex and ethnicity in the correct proportions and positions. Are these just anecdotes? Or should we be worrying about the effects of affirmative action on the quality of government services? It would be helpful to know the answers, but we will
not so long as the taboo against talking about group difference prevails.

- Charles Murray, from "The Inequality Taboo"

http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf
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Anecdotes are not evidence. The rantings of mr “white society is unraveling oh noes” is not evidence nor are the ramblings of an alt reich radio show host.
 
watsup said:
Are you losing the debate? Shout "RACE CARD" so what you don't have to actually discuss it in a serious and thoughtful manner.
This ALWAYS is happens with the right-wingers.
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Yep essentially this or change the rules mid debate to promote an alt righter when he rejects arguments from a youtube video out of hand.
 
SmartCat said:
Consider an observation furtively voiced by many who interact with civil servants: that government is riddled with people who have been promoted to their level of incompetence because of pressure to have a staff with the correct sex and ethnicity in the correct proportions and positions. Are these just anecdotes? Or should we be worrying about the effects of affirmative action on the quality of government services? It would be helpful to know the answers, but we will
not so long as the taboo against talking about group difference prevails.

- Charles Murray, from "The Inequality Taboo"

Yes, we know that you are a racist. You don't have to keep proving it to us.
And if you really want to know the problem with incompetence in the federal government at the present time, all you have to do is to look for Orange.

http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf
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Yes, we know that you are a racist. You don't have to keep proving it to us.
And if you really want to know the problem with incompetence in the federal government at the present time, all you have to do is to look for Orange.
 
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