What happens to the deplorables?

[Eriech]

Loot pillage and create autonomous zones....no that is what the left is threatening should Trump win.
We will do what we did in 2012. Hunker down and survive. Head down eyes up alert for opportunities to make the best out of a bad hand.

 

[nota bene]

We need to get a handle on the right wing extremist violence threat, if we do that, legally and justly, I think it will limit how far they can go.

Do you think we need to get a handle on the violent activity ongoing in Philadelphia?

 

[MrPeanut]

The majority go back to being republicans. A lot of them will die out in the next 10 to 15 years.

 

[Vadinho]

He artificially propped up a failing industry. American cars are still terrible and overpriced, last time I checked.



Ummm... No, he gave a small minority of poor people really crappy, overpriced healthcare, on a website that barely works.

In exchange, insurance rates for literally everyone else shot through the roof.



Slowest recovery, and one of the weakest job markets, in American history.



That was the US military and intelligence apparatus, not Obama.



Yes, actually. Being broke, and forced to live with my parents for five years, as a direct result of Obama's crappy economic policies, was a pretty terrible experience.

But, hey! At least queers could "put a ring on it" before kiestering things (not that it ever stopped them). I guess that was something.

Today, I make 80k a year, and own a home worth 350k. There's a very good chance that will go away under Biden, as my industry will be one of the first on the chopping block.

like I said, I feel for you, must have been a nightmare to see the Obama's move into the White House, kind of like the Jeffersons moving next to Archie.

 

[Rhakron90]

Obama didn't separate families as a deterrent to future immigrants, and neither will Biden.

Lol. Sure, guy. Whatever you say.

like I said, I feel for you, must have been a nightmare to see the Obama's move into the White House, kind of like the Jeffersons moving next to Archie.

Oooo... The tried and true old Leftist cop out. Can't win the argument? Call your opponent "racist."

 

[nota bene]

Checks and balances with both parties have created gridlock. Since I’ve been hit from both sides here, I’ll be sad to go from this life seeing the way our Nation is.

I would be too. But I hope that some of the sentiments being expressed on this thread aren't representative of most of my fellow citizens. The classism, the vengeance-seeking, the contempt for others is what is deplorable, in my opinion. Horrifying. Just a little bit of trying to see each other as neighbors would go a very long way.

 

[Cardinal]

Lol. Sure, guy. Whatever you say.

Can you provide a link showing that Obama separated families, that he did it on purpose, and that he did all of this as a deterrent to future immigrants? I'll be waiting.

 

[Cardinal]

I would be too. But I hope that some of the sentiments being expressed on this thread aren't representative of most of my fellow citizens. The classism, the vengeance-seeking, the contempt for others is what is deplorable, in my opinion. Horrifying. Just a little bit of trying to see each other as neighbors would go a very long way.

Uh oh, guys, Nota's concerned.

 

[Rhakron90]

Can you provide a link showing that Obama separated families, that he did it on purpose, and that he did all of this as a deterrent to future immigrants? I'll be waiting.

First off, the primary reason children are separated from the adults they illegally crossed the border with is because those adults are not "family," or "parents," to begin with. They're human traffickers, quite possibly transporting the children for nefarious purposes.

Secondly, the whole reason this separation policy started being prioritized is because the Obama Administration actually handed thousands of children over to human traffickers, due to being too lazy and incompetent to actually check credentials beforehand.

Third, prove that "deterring immigrants" has anything to do with it.

 

[Cardinal]

First off, the primary reason children are separated from the adults they illegally crossed the border with is because those adults are not "family," or "parents," to begin with. They're human traffickers, quite possibly transporting the children for nefarious purposes.

Secondly, the whole reason this separation policy started being prioritized is because the Obama Administration actually handed thousands of children over to human traffickers, due to being too lazy and incompetent to actually check credentials beforehand.

Third, prove that "deterring immigrants" has anything to do with it.

I said provide a link. I'm not interested in your summary.

As for it being a deterrent, I'm just going off of the Trump administration's own words:

A 16-year-old's MAGA hat was blurred out of his high school yearbook

THEY DIDN"T LEAVE IT OUT. what part of that don't you get. they didn't leave the pic out. they shouldn't have edited it they should have left it alone. good God. Your arguing something that didn't occur. if they left it out no issue. they didn't leave it out they put it in and someone...

debatepolitics.com

 

[Vadinho]

Lol. Sure, guy. Whatever you say.



Oooo... The tried and true old Leftist cop out. Can't win the argument? Call your opponent "racist."

If you think I am going to rehash the right wing crap you spewed in that post about the Obama era with you then you are sadly mistaken. At the core of everything you wrote is the taint of white grievance, logic and facts have nothing to do with your post and impressions about the 8 years of Obama. I might as well debate a rabid dog for all the good it will do either of us. The group you belong to politically and apparently socially is about to get wiped off the face of the earth, thrown into the dustbin of history and ridiculed by historians until we are nothing but an era in the distant past. So you say you won our little parlay, go ahead and declare yourself the winner. Buy yourself a toupee, get a long tie, sit on a golden toilet, cheat at golf and give yourself a vanity handicap, lie a lot, cheat on your taxes, rip off your gardener, screw a porn star, emulate your God in your triumph over an online communist like me. Go for it, you have less then a week to enjoy yourself.

 

[Rhakron90]

I said provide a link. I'm not interested in your summary.

Ummm... No. Stop being lazy.

You made the claim, you back it up.

*Factually* reality remains that the Obama Administration did make use of the very cages you're complaining about. It also separated families.

If you think I am going to rehash the right wing crap you spewed in that post about the Obama era with you then you are sadly mistaken. At the core of everything you wrote is the taint of white grievance, logic and facts have nothing to do with your post and impressions about the 8 years of Obama. I might as well debate a rabid dog for all the good it will do either of us.

In other words, you won't let facts get in the way of your agenda, and you automatically assume anyone who tells you otherwise is "racist."

Got it.

The group you belong to politically and apparently socially is about to get wiped off the face of the earth, thrown into the dustbin of history and ridiculed by historians until we are nothing but an era in the distant past.

Well... That's not creepy, totalitarian, and threatening at all...

 

[Paradoxical]

So Trump loses in a humiliating defeat. The republicans go back to being republicans and vow to never nominate a Trump like character again.

What happens to Trump's deplorables? Those less-than-college educated, whites who are afraid of minorities?

I'm surprised a baiting OP like this hasn't been taken down by a monitor yet

 

[Cardinal]

Ummm... No. Stop being lazy.

You made the claim, you back it up.

*Factually* the fact of the matter remains that the Obama Administration did make use of the very cages you're complaining about.

Here are the administration officials who have said that family separation is meant as a deterrent

“Are you in favor of this new move announced by the attorney general early this week, that if you cross the border illegally even if you’re a mother with your children, to arrest you?” NPR’s John Burnett asked. “We’re going to prosecute you, we’re going to send your kids to a juvenile shelter?”

“They’re coming here for a reason,” Kelly said of migrants fleeing violence in Central America. “And I sympathize with the reason. But the laws are the laws. But a big name of the game is deterrence.”

Family separation would be a tough deterrent, Burnett noted.

“It could be a tough deterrent — would be a tough deterrent,” Kelly replied.

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“Let me start by saying I would do almost anything to deter the people from Central America to getting on this very, very dangerous network that brings them up through Mexico to the United States,” Kelly said.

Blitzer pressed him on the point: Is the Department of Homeland Security going to separate children from their parents?

“Yes, I am considering, in order to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network, I am considering exactly that,” Kelly said. “They will be well cared for as we deal with their parents.”

Even in March 2017, the idea was not new. Two weeks after Trump was inaugurated, a DHS official named John Lafferty raised the idea of using family separation as a deterrent in a town hall meeting for Citizenship and Immigration Services officials, according to documents obtained by NBC News.

Once Kelly left DHS to join the White House in July, the hunt for deterrent policies continued. During an August meeting, the New Yorker reported, a DHS official named Gene Hamilton told DHS officials “that over the next few days we’d need to generate paperwork laying out everything we could do to deter immigrants from coming to the U.S. illegally,” one person said. Family separations reportedly were included in the mix.

On Fox News’s “The Ingraham Angle,” Sessions was asked by host Laura Ingraham that question directly.

“General Sessions, is this policy in part used as a deterrent?” she asked. “Are you trying to deter people from bringing children or minors across this dangerous journey? Is that part of what the separation is about?”

“Fundamentally, we are enforcing the law,” Sessions replied. “If you break into the country …”

“But is it a deterrent, sir?” Ingraham interjected. “Are you considering it a deterrent?”

“I see that the fact that no one was being prosecuted for this was a factor in a fivefold increase in four years in this kind of illegal immigration,” Sessions said. “So, yes, hopefully people will get the message and come through the border at the port of entry and not break across the border unlawfully.”

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On a conference call with reporters on Tuesday morning, HHS’s acting assistant secretary, Steven Wagner, was explicit, according to a transcript provided to The Post by CNBC’s Christina Wilkie.

“We are staying one step ahead of the need,” Wagner said. “We expect that the new policy will result in a deterrence effect, we certainly hope that parents stop bringing their kids on this dangerous journey and entering the country illegally. So we are prepared to continue to expand capacity as needed. We hope that that will not be necessary in the future.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-meant-as-a-deterrent/?utm_term=.5446bb7c4128

 

[Ikari]

So Trump loses in a humiliating defeat. The republicans go back to being republicans and vow to never nominate a Trump like character again.

What happens to Trump's deplorables? Those less-than-college educated, whites who are afraid of minorities?

They go back to their meth labs?

 

[lurchadams]

So Trump loses in a humiliating defeat. The republicans go back to being republicans and vow to never nominate a Trump like character again.

What happens to Trump's deplorables? Those less-than-college educated, whites who are afraid of minorities?

I picked "other". Because there will be another person of color in the White House, the knuckle-draggers will form another "tea party" which, lets not kid ourselves - are a bunch of white supremacists masquerading as deficit hawks.

If "deficits" really mattered to these toothless swine, they'd have burned trump at the stake long ago!

 

[nota bene]

Uh oh, guys, Nota's concerned.

Good work rising above personal snark.

 

[Rexedgar]

I would be too. But I hope that some of the sentiments being expressed on this (thread) aren't representative of most of my fellow citizens. The classism, the vengeance-seeking, the contempt for others is what is deplorable, in my opinion. Horrifying. Just a little bit of trying to see each other as neighbors would go a very long way.

I felt the same way the last three and a half years........substitute thread for board.....

 

[lurchadams]

They continue to live in democratic heads rent-free.

Separate them from their families and throw them in cages.

 

[Queen Margo]

[
They will crawl back under the rock they emerged from.

A more disgusting group of Americans doesn't exist. They are a much greater danger to America than trump
[/QUOTE]

Ugh! It is comments like this that will keep us divided for sure.

 

[Rhakron90]

Here are the administration officials who have said that family separation is meant as a deterrent













https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-meant-as-a-deterrent/?utm_term=.5446bb7c4128

Okay, thank you.

In kind:

Obama administration placed children with human traffickers, report says

Either way, children will wind up being detained separately, as it is frankly necessary.

 

[Cardinal]

Okay, thank you.

In kind:

Obama administration placed children with human traffickers, report says

Either way, children will wind up being detained separately, as it is frankly necessary.

Did Obama do that on purpose? Because I have the Trump administration's own words to show that they separated families just to be cruel.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

So Trump loses in a humiliating defeat. The republicans go back to being republicans and vow to never nominate a Trump like character again.

What happens to Trump's deplorables? Those less-than-college educated, whites who are afraid of minorities?

They haven't been Democrats since the Civil Rights Act was passed.

 

[Rhakron90]

Did Obama do that on purpose?

Ummm... I don't care? Negligent incompetence, born out of "do-gooder" naivety, is often just as destructive and cruel in its outcomes as deliberate malice.

If the kid winds up in sex slavery, do you think it matters to them whether it was "on purpose?"

Because I have the Trump administration's own words to show that they separated families just to be cruel.

In order to deter human trafficking... Which feeds things like work and sex slavery.

 

[Queen Margo]

You know amazes me, the left like to act like they care for the down trodden, the little guy, the minorities, etc. They are the first to label Trump supporters as "uneducated" in a privileged snark. You would think they could show some compassion for us Trump supporters when they speak so nasty. They full well know that Trump supporters are far more smarter that they give us credit for. Trump supporters have street smarts and common sense savvy as well. One must laugh at such hate and hypocrisy they spew....MAGA