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What does it mean to be "pro life?"[W:156]

year2late said:
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I think the above post gives a lot of insight into a claim made in the original post.

A lot of the problems within the context of this debates has to do with lack of respect for individuals and acknowledging we are individuals not engaged in groupthink.

In the real world there is a lack of respect for individuals. Is it any wonder that some people get treated as a cash machine rather than a human being? How can men and women be cooperative in situations where there is a baseline of lack of respect.
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The lack of respect is coming from your side not mine. I was recanting a true experience i had. The girl i was talking about left very happy and she left me very happy too. Win/win

Lack of respect comes overwhelming from your side. You wanna cry and stomp your feet over the truth, be my guest. I see no reason to be polite toward someone as disrepctful as you are to men in general. Your sensabilities are of no concern to me.

The difference between my positions and yours is that i dont advocating hurting someone based on their gender, you can not claim the same.

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trouble13 said:
The lack of respect is coming from your side not mine. I was recanting a true experience i had. The girl i was talking about left very happy and she left me very happy too. Win/win

Lack of respect comes overwhelming from your side. You wanna cry and stomp your feet over the truth, be my guest. I see no reason to be polite toward someone as disrepctful as you are to men in general. Your sensabilities are of no concern to me.

The difference between my positions and yours is that i dont advocating hurting someone based on their gender, you can not claim the same.

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Your ignorant attitude leaves one with the impression the "girl" you were with was more likely Mrs. Palm and her five daughters.
 
trouble13 said:
The lack of respect is coming from your side not mine. I was recanting a true experience i had. The girl i was talking about left very happy and she left me very happy too. Win/win

Lack of respect comes overwhelming from your side. You wanna cry and stomp your feet over the truth, be my guest. I see no reason to be polite toward someone as disrepctful as you are to men in general. Your sensabilities are of no concern to me.

The difference between my positions and yours is that i dont advocating hurting someone based on their gender, you can not claim the same.

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You think this is respectful?

You speak like a sterotypical irrational woman. You are a carrtoon character of what you think you oppose. The irony is delicious. There are so many just like you out there. In fact i bedded one just last night and she was a delicious little slut who the more i degraded her the more eager she was to please me. Its not short of spectacular the lengths some of you will go to have a mans approval. Men makes themselves easy for women but women simply are easy because tjey are not smart enough to be anything but. I think thats where you victim complex stems from
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year2late said:
From the original post.....





I think the above post gives a lot of insight into a claim made in the original post.

A lot of the problems within the context of this debates has to do with lack of respect for individuals and acknowledging we are individuals not engaged in groupthink.

In the real world there is a lack of respect for individuals. Is it any wonder that some people get treated as a cash machine rather than a human being? How can men and women be cooperative in situations where there is a baseline of lack of respect.
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In other words: you want respect to be debited into the accounts of men when they behave according to how you would have men to behave. :lol:

Life according to women: men must obey, or die.
 
Celebrity said:
In other words: you want respect to be debited into the accounts of men when they behave according to how you would have men to behave. :lol:

Life according to women: men must obey, or die.
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Obey or die?

Good grief.
 
Celebrity said:
What more is life than a means to control other people's lives?
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Child support is not punitive. It is about parents supporting the children they created. If you feel it is a "control" thing, there are ways to avoid being "controlled". It revolves around prevention.

I also think it is a great fight to go for a more reasonable child support and custody arrangements.
 
year2late said:
Child support is not punitive. It is about parents supporting the children they created. If you feel it is a "control" thing, there are ways to avoid being "controlled". It revolves around prevention.

I also think it is a great fight to go for a more reasonable child support and custody arrangements.
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Child support is punitive and assumes, unlike income tax, that an individual will make money. There is no option for men who choose not pay child support, other than prison, preventative or otherwise. That is very much not pro life, because it imprisons men on the basis of incivility toward men specifically, and not women.

Being pro life does not mean harboring feelings of resentment toward one gender to the extent that discriminatory treatment of that gender should be justified in a court of law.

If you feel like it is about support, there are ways to nurture children and pregnant women. They revolve around welfare and health care, respectively.
 
Celebrity said:
Child support is punitive and assumes, unlike income tax, that an individual will make money. There is no option for men who choose not pay child support, other than prison, preventative or otherwise. That is very much not pro life, because it imprisons men on the basis of incivility toward men specifically, and not women.

Being pro life does not mean harboring feelings of resentment toward one gender to the extent that discriminatory treatment of that gender should be justified in a court of law.

If you feel like it is about support, there are ways to nurture children and pregnant women. They revolve around welfare and health care, respectively.
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"Pro-life" has nothing to do with men...save for self-centered men. It is all about men (and women controlled by men and primitive religious beliefs) controlling what a woman does with her body.

That is simply nobody's business but hers, in the final analysis.
 
Realitywins said:
Your ignorant attitude leaves one with the impression the "girl" you were with was more likely Mrs. Palm and her five daughters.
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Yeah i made it all up congrats you got me lol

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trouble13 said:
Yeah i made it all up congrats you got me lol

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Even if it was true...she was likely a pro. Can't attract or keep any other kind I bet.
 
year2late said:
You think this is respectful?
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I was undelicate (if thats a word) but honest. I feel no obligation to be polite to people who are regularly rude to me. You all dont have the market cornered on be callous. Ive learned to be uncaring of people who dont care about me. Boo hoo if that offends you

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Celebrity said:
In other words: you want respect to be debited into the accounts of men when they behave according to how you would have men to behave. [emoji38]

Life according to women: men must obey, or die.
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Her opinion has as little merit in my world as mine has in hers. I treat people with the some repsect they treat me with.

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year2late said:
Child support is not punitive. It is about parents supporting the children they created. If you feel it is a "control" thing, there are ways to avoid being "controlled". It revolves around prevention.

I also think it is a great fight to go for a more reasonable child support and custody arrangements.
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So you should have no problem when a man uses you to get a nut and you never hear from him again. Its not like your interested in nurturing a relationship based on mutual respect

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Realitywins said:
"Pro-life" has nothing to do with men...save for self-centered men. It is all about men (and women controlled by men and primitive religious beliefs) controlling what a woman does with her body.

That is simply nobody's business but hers, in the final analysis.
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Hey afyer i have gotten done using their bodies in whatever way i pleased and moved on they are free to do whatever pleases them with thier bodies. If they want me suppliment thise choices, good luck trying to find me, lol

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trouble13 said:
So you should have no problem when a man uses you to get a nut and you never hear from him again. Its not like your interested in nurturing a relationship based on mutual respect

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Judging from your attitude here, that would not be a relationship you have ever experienced.
 
trouble13 said:
Hey afyer i have gotten done using their bodies in whatever way i pleased and moved on they are free to do whatever pleases them with thier bodies. If they want me suppliment thise choices, good luck trying to find me, lol

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I can see the term "self-centred" was well chosen. Have you ever even had the same Pro come back a second time?
 
Realitywins said:
I can see the term "self-centred" was well chosen. Have you ever even had the same Pro come back a second time?
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We get it uncle tim, you think im a liar. Your denial of my truth does not concern me.far be it for me to disrupt your private idaho.

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trouble13 said:
We get it uncle tim, you think im a liar. Your denial of my truth does not concern me.far be it for me to disrupt your private idaho.

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I eat PEI spuds, not that crap from Idaho.
 
Realitywins said:
...and you to your lonely life of denial.
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Your like a broken record
This is the last time im going to tell you this. I dont care what you believe. Feel free to have the last word cause im sure you need to have it

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