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What do Atheist do?

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Poo Tin and his Atheist soldiers.

What do Atheist do when they can do what the want? Look today at the Atheist Russian soldiers in Ukraine.


“Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil’s pawn. Alone among God’s primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother’s land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.”


Morality for an Atheist is another mans opinion.
 

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Notice it says Russian Church and not Christian?
Those people are not aware that they have been lied to.
Are you saying that the Russian Christians are more ignorant than Russian atheists are, or are you saying they are more gullible? What role do you suppose all those Russian Christian prayers played in this war? Is God answering them with all that bloodshed, or ignoring them? He sure as hell can't be instructing them and have this 'moral result'
 

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Notice it says Russian Church and not Christian?
Those people are not aware that they have been lied to.
The Russian Church is a Christian. Not that i is relevant the silly Op was about atheists not not Christians

Doubling down on the fail of the OP is not a good strategy
 

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Are you saying that the Russian Christians are more ignorant than Russian atheists are, or are you saying they are more gullible? What role do you suppose all those Russian Christian prayers played in this war? Is God answering them with all that bloodshed, or ignoring them? He sure as hell can't be instructing them and have this 'moral result'
Russians do not have access to info like we do.
 

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Russians do not have access to info like we do.
Russians are not deprived of their information based on their theist or atheist views. The same news hits them both, the same lies hits them both. Again why have you decided that the atheist Russians are less gullible or less ignorant that the Russian Christians.

And don't Russian Christians pray for clear guidance and truth and does not their God want them to have it?
 

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The Russian Church is a Christian. Not that i is relevant the silly Op was about atheists not not Christians

Doubling down on the fail of the OP is not a good strategy
The Catholic Church killed off the Judaic Christians, then proclaimed themselves as the true Christians. Besides that, after the Judaic Christians were killed off other claimed to be the "Protestant Church."
 

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Russians are not deprived of their information based on their theist or atheist views. The same news hits them both, the same lies hits them both. Again why have you decided that the atheist Russians are less gullible or less ignorant that the Russian Christians.
You need to watch the news.
 

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Chimps kill other chimps and eat them. So much for man being alone in his killings.
 

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You are not answering. You don't like my questions, very much ,do you?
You said "Russians are not deprived of their information based on their theist or atheist views."

After that comment I could see there was no point in speaking to you.
 

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What do Atheist do?​


@CherubRam

Where does your god fall when it comes to spreading malicious and exceeding ignorant lies?

Do you think you’re scoring brownie points with utter bullshit like this thread?
 

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Notice it says Russian Church and not Christian?
Those people are not aware that they have been lied to.
Nope.

The Russian Orthodox Church (ROC; Russian: Ру́сская правосла́вная це́рковь, romanized: Rússkaya pravoslávnaya tsérkov), alternatively legally known as the Moscow Patriarchate (Russian: Моско́вский патриарха́т, romanized: Moskóvskiy patriarkhát),[12] is one of the autocephalous Eastern Orthodox Christian churches.
 

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41% of Russians are Orthodox, and only 13% are Atheist.

Fail.
See only the 13% atheist Russians are smart enough to see propaganda as propaganda so they support evil. The Russian Orthodox Christians are too stupid or ignorant to see propaganda as propaganda. Even though they pray for God to bring guidance and truth to them, they still end up more naive or dumb in the face of the propaganda than the 13 % atheists so they are not evil!
 

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I haven't seen a topic this successful since scientists discovered the God Particle.

'In your face, science!'
 

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Chimps kill other chimps and eat them. So much for man being alone in his killings.
That quote comes from Planet of The Apes. In that day they did not know chimps killed their own.
 

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The Catholic Church killed off the Judaic Christians, then proclaimed themselves as the true Christians. Besides that, after the Judaic Christians were killed off other claimed to be the "Protestant Church."
Tripling down on the BS doenst save you failed OP
 

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See only the 13% atheist Russians are smart enough to see propaganda as propaganda so they support evil. The Russian Orthodox Christians are too stupid or ignorant to see propaganda as propaganda. Even though they pray for God to bring guidance and truth to them, they still end up more naive or dumb in the face of the propaganda than the 13 % atheists so they are not evil!
Did you know there are Atheist preachers leading the churches?
 

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You said "Russians are not deprived of their information based on their theist or atheist views."

After that comment I could see there was no point in speaking to you.
Do you have evidence that Russian govt propaganda is only being pumped into the televisions and computers of the Russian Orthodox Christians, but not the evil atheist Russians?
 

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Did you know there are Atheist preaches leading the churches?
Did you know there are Orthodox Christians leading the churches too? Which side is God taking when he hears the prayers of Christians asking, pleading for guidance and truth? Are Christians too stupid to ask this God whether they should go to war or support this war, or are they not getting answers?

Normally, in a thread like this, I get pissed because the OP is stereotyping atheists as amoral or evil, or the OP is stereotyping people of faith or those who attend a house of worship, as mindless sheeple, unable to critically think for themselves.

This guy has managed to do both!


CherubRam definitely deserves this treatment!
 
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Morality for anybody with a brain is just another person's opinion
morals are factually subjective

an individual might hold there own morality as objective and conduct themselves that way but in reality, morals are just subjective

with that said, trying to blame this war on religion or lack of relation is monumentally stupid and dishonest and nobody honest, educated and objective would ever take such a claim seriously LMAO
 

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Morality for anybody with a brain is just another person's opinion
morals are factually subjective

an individual might hold there own morality as objective and conduct themselves that way but in reality, morals are just subjective

with that said, trying to blame this war on religion or lack of relation is monumentally stupid and dishonest and nobody honest, educated and objective would ever take such a claim seriously LMAO
I am honestly not sure if there is an objective morality or not. Its a lot like looking for 'objective truth'. Looking at the specifics in context, the surrounding matter around these abstractions helps us navigate closer and closer . Whether you ever get there or not, the search for objective morality and objective truth, gets us a lot closer than never looking for any morality or truth. Its a valuable exercise for people interested in staying in the vicinity of morality or truth. I'd rather live and be in the society of people who live in the vicinity, than those could care less how far they drift away.
 
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