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Western Kentucky Professor: Trump's victory signals that human decency is no longer an American virtue

The Hairy Fiddler said:
Yeah, how dare this guy speak the truth. Just maybe he calls them the way he sees them, eh? He's not wrong. America just elected a hate filled; 34 times criminal to be the president. Not to mention a guy who continues to appoint radical right winged MAGA's to his cabinet to best implement his Project 2025 and turn this once great democratic democracy into a fascist dictatorship. Just wonderful.
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This thread is going to need a larger fainting couch.
 
NatMorton said:
That’s because he is a drama queen. Call ‘em as I see 'em.
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Yes, I'm sure you do ... that's why I inquired into how ".... [You] see 'em".

Well?
 
NatMorton said:
Well what?
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Is holding the principle of caring for another's general welfare (beings you'll never know nor meet) being dramatic?

If so, wouldn't the majority of current voters holding similar attitudes reflect negatively upon American values in this regard.... making it a valid concern for the professor?
 
quip said:
Is holding the principle of caring for another's general welfare (beings you'll never know nor meet) being dramatic?
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No, it certainly isn't. But what does that have to do with the OP?

quip said:
If so, wouldn't the majority of current voters holding similar attitudes reflect negatively upon American values in this regard.... making it a valid concern for the professor?
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If the majority of voters didn't care about others' welfare, perhaps, but to claim they don't is silly hyperbole, hence my commentary on the good professor's hysteria.
 
quip said:
Is holding the principle of caring for another's general welfare (beings you'll never know nor meet) being dramatic?

If so, wouldn't the majority of current voters holding similar attitudes reflect negatively upon American values in this regard.... making it a valid concern for the professor?
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Dispassion<--------------------------------------->Altruism

Where on the line would you place a person's moral equilibrium? A nation's?
 
NatMorton said:
No, it certainly isn't. But what does that have to do with the OP?
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- Before November 5th, for example, many of us were under the impression human kindness was a quality that defined our society - OP
NatMorton said:
If the majority of voters didn't care about others' welfare, perhaps, but to claim they don't is silly hyperbole, hence my commentary on the good professor's hysteria.
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Oh, he's not saying ya'll are bereft of such capacity but rather you've prioritized denigration and disparagement over the concerns of fellow man.

- Indeed, the idea we should care deeply about the plight of our neighbors was something many thought was synonymous with being an American....Perhaps if Trump had been around when I was younger, he could have let my mother know it was OK to denigrate and disparage those who are different. - OP
 
Along Came Jones said:
Dispassion<--------------------------------------->Altruism

Where on the line would you place a person's moral equilibrium? A nation's?
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Selfishness------------------------------------->Altruism

How about boring middle-of-the-road?
 
Perotista said:
I’d say for a long time there’s been no decency in politics. All one needs to look at is all the negative personal political attack ads that saturate the air waves over the last 30 years. As for Trump, is it a lack of decency when one determines the present administration has done a lousy job of governing, hadn’t addressed the issues one deems important. 56% of all Americans disapproved of the job the Biden administration had done over the last 4 years. Probably most of those voted for Trump or against Harris, representing the Biden administration. Most wanted a change in administration in hopes that the new administration could do a better job, if that means Trump, so be it.

Given the Biden administration very low overall job approval of 41%, their very high disapproval of somewhere between 55-65% on their handling of most issues. It’s a wonder this election was as close as it was. Only a 1.6-point win in the popular vote, the third closest election since 1900 with only 1960 and 2000 being closer. A loss of 2 seats in the house, the only other election besides the presidential that was nationwide. This election in my opinion was a rejection of the Biden administration, the democratic party and Harris as Biden’s replacement. It wasn’t an endorsement of Trump or the republicans. Given the Biden’s administration’s very low approval numbers across the board, history show this election should have been a landslide for the GOP. It wasn’t due to the GOP running Trump. Almost any other republican than Trump probably would have led the GOP to a massive victory. But with Trump, that wasn’t to be.
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Trump's re-election proves the following: Presidential elections are a referendum on the performance of the White House Party. If people do not like the status quo, they will pick the opposition party regardless of how vile and degenerate they are.

The Biden's Administration failure to address the issue of affordability cost them the White House. When the cost of everything goes up -- food, grocery, gasoline, clothing, housing, transportation -- and you do not come up with solutions, you lose the WH. And quite frankly, you deserve to lose.

My issue is here is: How far the bar has been lowered.
 
Well, yeah.

Everything ends eventually.
 
BrotherFease said:
You can read the full article here. Here are some snippets on key points:

This is a terrific, but sad great read. Quite frankly, I cannot disagree with a single word he wrote. Do you guys think human decency is dead?
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Do you understand that people who disagree with you, that they disagree with you?


This is a rhetorical question. YOu clearly don't understand that.
 
BrotherFease said:
You can read the full article here. Here are some snippets on key points:

This is a terrific, but sad great read. Quite frankly, I cannot disagree with a single word he wrote. Do you guys think human decency is dead?
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Can't disagree either. The majority of Americans proved on 11/5 they give not a shit about human decency. All one has to do is to look at Trump's first few administration candidates for proof.
 
quip said:
- Before November 5th, for example, many of us were under the impression human kindness was a quality that defined our society - OP

Oh, he's not saying ya'll are bereft of such capacity but rather you've prioritized denigration and disparagement over the concerns of fellow man.
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His implied assertion that there's good reason for that impression to change after November 5th is blithering nonsense. He's simply having problems dealing with his emotions stemming from Trump's victory.

quip said:
- Indeed, the idea we should care deeply about the plight of our neighbors was something many thought was synonymous with being an American....Perhaps if Trump had been around when I was younger, he could have let my mother know it was OK to denigrate and disparage those who are different. - OP
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Ironically, disparaging those who disagree with him politically is exactly what he's doing, so we can add hypocrisy to the growing list of the professor's maturity issues.
 
Corbell said:
Do you understand that people who disagree with you, that they disagree with you?


This is a rhetorical question. YOu clearly don't understand that.
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Disagree with what?

You think Trump has great moral character?

The professor correctly points out that morality is irrelevant in a presidential candidate.
 
Along Came Jones said:
Actually, it must include a conversation about Harris and Democratic party governance. Without the electorate's backlash against progressive dominance there would be no Trump in office the first time or this time.

The real question will be how far Congress, and the courts, will permit Trump and his "our gang" appointments to carry out their alleged agenda.
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We will know the answer when we see how many of trump's nutcase cabinet nominees are approved. If they approve Hegseth, Gabbard and Patel we are in for rough sailing.
 
DrewPaul said:
If the people are cheering Trump its because he was the victim of political revenge. But I forgot the left still hasn't figured out why they lost so badly and the man you hate the worst was seen as a better alternative.
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I know, what country wouldn't be proud to be led by a convicted felon, serial adulterer, liar and traitor?
 
eman623 said:
Trump told Hamas to release all American hostages or else there would be "All hell to pay!"

We haven't had that kind of moral clarity for 4 years.
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I doubt Hamas is trembling in fear. What can trump do to them that Israel hasn't already done?
 
BrotherFease said:
Trump's re-election proves the following: Presidential elections are a referendum on the performance of the White House Party. If people do not like the status quo, they will pick the opposition party regardless of how vile and degenerate they are.

The Biden's Administration failure to address the issue of affordability cost them the White House. When the cost of everything goes up -- food, grocery, gasoline, clothing, housing, transportation -- and you do not come up with solutions, you lose the WH. And quite frankly, you deserve to lose.

My issue is here is: How far the bar has been lowered.
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I totally agree. I’ve been saying for a very long time that an election is a referendum on the sitting president and the job he has done. We’ve had 8 election since the end of world war II where the sitting president had a job approval of below 50%. Either that sitting president lost his reelection bid or that sitting president’s replacement lost as with Stevenson replacing Truman, Humphrey replacing LBJ, McCain replace G.W. Bush and Harris replacing Biden. Presidents who lost their reelection with a job approval of below 50% include Ford, Carter, G.H.W. Bush and Trump.
 
BrotherFease said:
Trump's re-election proves the following: Presidential elections are a referendum on the performance of the White House Party. If people do not like the status quo, they will pick the opposition party regardless of how vile and degenerate they are.

The Biden's Administration failure to address the issue of affordability cost them the White House.
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Biden did address affordability, he brought inflation down to a little over 2%. trump voters apparently believe there would have been no inflation if he had been reelected in 2020.
BrotherFease said:
When the cost of everything goes up -- food, grocery, gasoline, clothing, housing, transportation -- and you do not come up with solutions, you lose the WH. And quite frankly, you deserve to lose.

My issue is here is: How far the bar has been lowered.
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Of course the price of goods went up. We had/have a labor shortage, one we overcame by increasing wages. When your local McDonalds employee pay goes from $8 to $15 the price
of a big mac is gonna go up. I think the American people made a mistake, I hope I'm wrong.
 
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