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We're Screwed: 11,000 Years' Worth of Climate Data Prove It

Nice way to think and a major cause of the problems this nation faces today.

"I KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND FACTS AIN'T CHANGIN' MY MIND!
There does seem to be some difference between fact and theory. AGW is a theory. Sorry about that, but as I said, when you're tinkering with the future of humankind, you need a little more than a half-baked theory to sell it.
 
There does seem to be some difference between fact and theory. AGW is a theory. Sorry about that, but as I said, when you're tinkering with the future of humankind, you need a little more than a half-baked theory to sell it.

But people repeatedly buy into scary theories and each time argue that this time they really really really have the facts on their side, this time for sure. Of course it's hard on people's pride to admit they are dupes but these stories have been going on for centuries. People gather on the hillside wearing their white robes, staring expectantly at the heavens, and fizzzzzz, nothing happens. Just another dreary day in a dreary life, and they trudge home.. The world goes on.
 
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Sad thing is that while so much money is being spent on furthering the GW agenda, there are actually real problems out there that need solving. Such as deforestation, pollution in the waterways, trash disposal, recycling, Hazardous materials storage, Air polution. None of which get any attention due to all the money going into more expensive, and many times, even more damaging to the envioronment, technologies.
 
It's always hot in June. It's always been dry in Texas.
How much do you charge for those rose colored glasses?
Texas part of growing drought in U.S. that rivals Dust Bowl years - San Antonio Express-News
More than 77 percent of Texas is experiencing moderate to extreme drought, National Weather Service records show.

That's an improvement from 95.7 percent a year ago but no consolation to residents in the hardest-hit areas.

“West Texas is still in a long-term drought, and it looks like there's no end in sight for them,” said John Nielsen-Gammon, state climatologist at Texas A&M University.
 

If Texas were in such a pickle, and if climate change due to evil corporations spewing smog in to the air were the cause, where is the outcry from Texans? Why aren't they rushing to hop on the Al Gore treehugger kumbaya bandwagon of lefties?

Because Texans can tell you bs when they see it.

The only people crying about climate change are ivory tower academics who have never set foot in west texas.

How many of those treehugging academics are sitting up in the northeast right now, with a foot of snow on the ground, writing papers about the dangers of global warming. Clowns.
 
If Harvard had anything to do with this so called study it is null and void due to the fact that they recently announced to conservatives, "Don't come to our liberal university if you are going to complain about it being liberal". They obviously have a liberal agenda and any study they do on any subject has to be taken with a grain of salt.
 
If Texas were in such a pickle, and if climate change due to evil corporations spewing smog in to the air were the cause, where is the outcry from Texans? Why aren't they rushing to hop on the Al Gore treehugger kumbaya bandwagon of lefties?

Because Texans can tell you bs when they see it.

The only people crying about climate change are ivory tower academics who have never set foot in west texas.

How many of those treehugging academics are sitting up in the northeast right now, with a foot of snow on the ground, writing papers about the dangers of global warming. Clowns.

I don't know what makes most Texans tick. But, the last time I drove from El Paso to Dallas, the smell in the air for the 100 or so miles leading in and out of Midland was not fit for human consumption. I'm certainly glad I don't live anywhere near there.
 
But people repeatedly buy into scary theories and each time argue that this time they really really really have the facts on their side, this time for sure. Of course it's hard on people's pride to admit they are dupes but these stories have been going on for centuries. People gather on the hillside wearing their white robes, staring expectantly at the heavens, and fizzzzzz, nothing happens. Just another dreary day in a dreary life, and they trudge home.. The world goes on.
It is really scary. That the AGW crowd has taken the extra step of establishing a casino in which they are the House hasn't done a thing for their credibility.
 
Why, of course you do. When you plug in your electric car, where does the power come from?

From the solar panels in my roof.

Your effort to back up what you believe to be true is commendable, but you do realize you make no dent in the problem you believe exists, don't you? Last year we set records for coal exports. I wonder what the importers are doing with that stuff?
Like I said, what I've done with current technology and know how. There other countries doing more than us. Ancient civilizations used passive solar design, why can we?
 
The point of the comment was that, according to doomsdayers like you, we won't be around to watch the US economy totally crash due to climate change. I wouldn't expect you to catch that though.


"We could have saved the Earth but we were too damned cheap."

~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
 
Early June is not even Summer.

BTW: How's your water supply looking?

June isn't summer? Huh?

June - August = Summer
September - November = Fall
December - February = Winter
March - May = Spring

This isn't exactly rocket surgery. The biggest hint is that the period when school kids are out of school is called SUMMER break.
 
June isn't summer? Huh?

June - August = Summer
September - November = Fall
December - February = Winter
March - May = Spring

This isn't exactly rocket surgery. The biggest hint is that the period when school kids are out of school is called SUMMER break.

Summer begins June 21st. Hence most of June is in Spring.

The heat wave originally cited happened in early June. Springtime.

Btw: September is mostly Summer. Fall arrives 9-22. 911 happened in late summer; not early fall.
 
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From the solar panels in my roof.
Yeah. I've heard that before. Good luck with it. A fifty mile trip with a thirty mile charge is not a winning proposition.
Like I said, what I've done with current technology and know how. There other countries doing more than us. Ancient civilizations used passive solar design, why can we?
I do. I have volumes and volumes on passive solar design. I agree it makes sense, but only across a limited field in a society willing to embrace it. AGW is a very shaky platform on which to advance it. It's disingenuous to use that chewed out pop tart of a gun held to the collective heads of society at large as a means to force it. An electric car is not a viable option for most, and neither is passive solar design for someone living in Queens.
 
Okay, everybody! Let's have a show of hands out there from those of you who are actual climatologists. Raise them high please. Nobody? No climatologists present? Anywhere??

Then the skeptics win and the gullible dupes lose again!!!

Sorry. It will just have to remain an interesting theory and no more tax dollars should be made available for the sheep and those who would fleece them.

Survey Shows Climatologists Are Split on Global Warming | Heartlander Magazine

Dissenters

HEARTLANDER magazine?

LOLS ...

you have to be kidding!

Heartland Institute - SourceWatch

these guys include Donald Duck in their list of dissenting scientists!
 
I just think many scientists are simply trying to stay gainfully employed. Imagine if money stopped for the research in GW. How many scientists would have to actually do real science instead of being pseudo politicians with science degrees.

So ... what you are saying is that you know nothing about how the scientific community works.

It wasn't scientists who politicized this issue.
 
I do. I have volumes and volumes on passive solar design. I agree it makes sense, but only across a limited field in a society willing to embrace it. AGW is a very shaky platform on which to advance it. It's disingenuous to use that chewed out pop tart of a gun held to the collective heads of society at large as a means to force it. An electric car is not a viable option for most, and neither is passive solar design for someone living in Queens.

Before, you were saying nothing could be done. Now you are saying people aren't willing to do it. Only science deniers think AGW is a shaky platform. Most commuters drive less than 30 miles per day, and the range of electric cars are now far beyond that.

"Ryan Enschede believes that we have lost our understanding of how to build in relation to the climate, and the Brooklyn-based architect and designer has dedicated his career to changing that mindset. Enschede’s work centers around the idea that architectural design and construction principles should be based on factors like solar energy, regional climate, and the changing seasons. He caught our attention because of his solar array projects throughout New York City, and recently, we had a chance to sit down and chat with Enschede about his design philosophy and his current work.

“I am an architect pursuing sustainable architectural solutions adapted to NYC’s climate and built conditions,” says Enschede. He adds, “I’m increasingly convinced that we need to address energy more, and thereby climate change, both not particularly well understood. A lot of mistakes are not being understood as mistakes.”

Enschede believes that the majority of these issues unfortunately arise due to a lack of understanding of traditional design principles, and over-dependence on machinery, a handicap which Enschede dubs, “mechanical conditioning.” He gives the example of a variety of construction errors often used in green buildings, such as the placement of skylights. He explains how many buildings use skylights which are not properly installed in relation to the sun’s trajectory, and in turn, can actually be detrimental to energy efficiency overall. The same is also true for building facades, which are also often not built in accordance to the sun’s path during changing seasons.

Not taking these factors into consideration exposes certain elements of the building to higher levels of solar radiation, which can be especially uncomfortable during summer months. Enschede proposes paying attention to these variables, which when taken into account, will reject solar heat in the summer and distribute solar energy heating during the winter. This will create a certain level of independence from mechanical devices.

Enschede strives to deliver these environmental considerations to all his clients. Through a collaborative effort with Aeon Solar, Enschede has become an expert at “implementing rooftop photovoltaic solar arrays in New York City’s unique and difficult environment.” Enschede has also used his expertise to provide photovoltaic solar systems for both commercial and residential use, including NYC’s largest residential PV solar system on Dumont Avenue in Brooklyn. He was worked on about three dozen arrays throughout Brooklyn and Queens."

Read more: Architect Ryan Enschede Tackles Climate Change Through Sustainable Building in NYC Ryan Enschede Passive Solar Design – Inhabitat New York City
 
Recent peer reviewed survey finds majority of scientists are skeptical about global warming.

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis - Forbes

Forbes Magazine - SourceWatch

the fact that the author refers to "warmists", and those who regard it as an important issue as "alarmists" and the type of thinking attributed to those concerned about this issue is just plain stupid.

the fact that the author speaks as if Obama is such a big player in this also suggests that he is quite ignorant of global political reality, as well as science.

the author wants to the American people to be the backward dark age cousins of the rest of us.

you've got to wonder why billionaires want you to be so backward.
 
All of these investigations are either from government agencies controlled by governments pushing for more power under the auspices of saving mankind from Global Warming of they are self policing internal investigations by the organizations directly involved in the scandal.

Also, a small quibble, but your list is padded. You can't count preliminary and final reports as two separate investigations.

so ... what you are saying is that you are a conspiracy theorist.
 
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