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Well Tea Partiers ... he is does have a valid point.

independent_thinker2002 said:
I forgot "short stupid white guy". Did you count how many times he said that? :lol:

Levin got his panties in a twist because a comedian made a cheap joke.

Yeah, they all didn't spend time in Paris. So what? They were literate. That in itself made them elite for the time period. :lol:



It doesn't show that they were all people with faith. Even me as an atheist would have been fine with those references as it was important to have unifying language to rally behind. If everyone believed in Skeletor, I would have been fine with that as well.



I'm not outraged. A comedian made a joke. I'm laughing at Levin for taking it seriously and thinking that calling him "short" somehow "refudiates" the premise of the joke.
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Yes, Levin does have his panties in a wad. Good for him, he can join join the crowd.
Mark Levin Threatens to Sue Anyone Tying Him to Tucson Shooting | NewsBusters.org
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Is he moving to The History Channel? :lol:
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what's sad is that many libs think Bill Maher and Jon Stewart actually know more about politics than any other schmuck. they're freakin comedians...and in Maher's case, not even a funny one.

giving any weight at all to Maher's political opinion is like taking marriage counselling from Tiger Woods.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
I forgot "short stupid white guy". Did you count how many times he said that? :lol:

Levin got his panties in a twist because a comedian made a cheap joke.

Yeah, they all didn't spend time in Paris. So what? They were literate. That in itself made them elite for the time period. :lol:



It doesn't show that they were all people with faith. Even me as an atheist would have been fine with those references as it was important to have unifying language to rally behind. If everyone believed in Skeletor, I would have been fine with that as well.



I'm not outraged. A comedian made a joke. I'm laughing at Levin for taking it seriously and thinking that calling him "short" somehow "refudiates" the premise of the joke.
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Who is they? some did but some didn't so why lump everyone together and what difference does it make? They were illiterate, some were but some weren't but some time being street smarts is better than book smarts especially in dealing with real life problems. You seem fascinated by book smarts these days and look where that has gotten us.

You call it a comedian joke yet I heard the people applauding thus showing they believed the joke to be reality. Far too many really don't understand history, don't understand the vision of our Founders, and put their faith in that comedian to tell them the truth. He didn't and hasn't told the whole truth and generalizes making that the new reality.
 
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independent_thinker2002 said:
Is he moving to The History Channel? :lol:
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Fortunately, the History Channel has just enough sense to be somewhat worth a damn, even though they have always sucked and continue to suck harder and harder with time. So, I think they would not hire a Bill Maher :P
 
OscarB63 said:
what's sad is that many libs think Bill Maher and Jon Stewart actually know more about politics than any other schmuck. they're freakin comedians...and in Maher's case, not even a funny one.

giving any weight at all to Maher's political opinion is like taking marriage counselling from Tiger Woods.
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So becaause they are comedians they can't know more than the average stooge about politics
?
 
winston53660 said:
So becaause they are comedians they can't know more than the average stooge about politics
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comprehension problems? yes they can, but just because they are on TV doesn't mean they do. get it?????
 
OscarB63 said:
what's sad is that many libs think Bill Maher and Jon Stewart actually know more about politics than any other schmuck. they're freakin comedians...and in Maher's case, not even a funny one.

giving any weight at all to Maher's political opinion is like taking marriage counselling from Tiger Woods.
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I agree about Maher. Stewart actually is an intellectual. That doesn't mean that people should get their views from him, but the man does know what he is talking about.
 
Conservative said:
Who is they? some did but some didn't so why lump everyone together and what difference does it make? They were illiterate, some were but some weren't but some time being street smarts is better than book smarts especially in dealing with real life problems. You seem fascinated by book smarts these days and look where that has gotten us.

You call it a comedian joke yet I heard the people applauding thus showing they believed the joke to be reality. Far too many really don't understand history, don't understand the vision of our Founders, and put their faith in that comedian to tell them the truth. He didn't and hasn't told the whole truth and generalizes making that the new reality.
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I didn't say the FF were illiterate.

People applaud comedians.

I know, only the Tea Movement can be experts at the vision of the Founders. :roll:
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
I agree about Maher. Stewart actually is an intellectual. That doesn't mean that people should get their views from him, but the man does know what he is talking about.
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my problem is that too many people give credit to the opinions of these jackasses simply because they are on TV or in the movies. at least with the talk radio "gurus" it is their job to be somewhat informed. sure they put their own left/right slant to everything but at least their opinions are somewhat based on facts. most comedians, musicians, actors, athletes don't know anymore about politics than I do.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
I didn't say the FF were illiterate.

People applaud comedians.

I know, only the Tea Movement can be experts at the vision of the Founders. :roll:
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Seems that members of the tea party are the only ones reading the history books. Understanding the vision of the Founders requires reading history.
 
OscarB63 said:
my problem is that too many people give credit to the opinions of these jackasses simply because they are on TV or in the movies. at least with the talk radio "gurus" it is their job to be somewhat informed. sure they put their own left/right slant to everything but at least their opinions are somewhat based on facts. most comedians, musicians, actors, athletes don't know anymore about politics than I do.
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I'll keep this in mind when reading your posts. :2razz:
 
Conservative said:
Seems that members of the tea party are the only ones reading the history books. Understanding the vision of the Founders requires reading history.
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Is it a political party or not?

Who's version of history are they reading?
 
OscarB63 said:
well...unlike some people round here, I've never claimed to be an expert. :lamo
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I know. It was just funny and I couldn't resist pointing it out. All in good fun.
 
Barbbtx said:
Got a link? I want to post this on another thread about how scathing liberals are. This is a prime example.
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Scathing? Why is it Reps/cons see others as being hateful but ignore their own viciousness? Hypocrisy?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
That's not more accountable. That was the same amount of accountability that we've had previously. This was a regularly scheduled election. Or is it only holding the government accountable when your candidate wins?
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Hardly. The Tea Party was at least partly responsible for ousting previously elected congressmen during primaries. We'll see...but I'd be willing to bet that a lot more candidates (dem and republican) will be speaking fiscal responsibility talk in the run up to the next election.
 
Most historians are somewhat to very liberal. Most readers of history, well, that's hard to figure out. But yes, there are multiple interpretations of history, and multiple interpretations of any given historical subject.
 
Barbbtx said:
I'm sure they would agree with all things liberal.:roll:
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I am sure this is a strawman since I never said anything like that. Why do some people have such a hard time arguing about what is actually said?
 
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