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So...a draft of a decision has been leaked. Interesting.The decision has been leaked. This is the continuation of the authoritarian, Republican culture war. Elite Republicans against everyone else. I've said many times, Republican or Democrat, if you have the money and you want an abortion, you're going to get one.
Making little girls carry their incest and rape babies to term? Lets see how that goes. I believe this is the "push" Democrats need to maintain the houses. Women, even conservative women aren't going to put up with this, IMO.
Exclusive: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.www.politico.com
It's a 1950's war being fought in the 21st Century. It makes no darn sense. Why is it that Republicans are such evil douches?There will be Roe friendly states and non-Roe friendly states for a while.
The unfriendly ones have no doubt got it in their heads that they can bully Roe states into obeying their demands, and without a doubt
they will attempt to bully their own residents into obeying state law OUTSIDE OF that state.
Naturally that will lead to another constitutional crisis with far reaching implications no matter how it is resolved or handled.
We are drifting farther and farther apart into two separate nations with every poisoned SCOTUS ruling.
It will also be interesting first time a state like, say perhaps Texas, tells California how to go about their affairs and California telling Texas to go fork themselves. No doubt that will be repeated amongst the several opposing states for quite a while.
No matter who did it - it leaked. It was likely one of the people clerking for one of the non right-wing justices.Do SCOTUS decisions get leaked?
I thought they were pretty secretive?
It would be pretty easy to identify a leaker and I'm sure they're dealt with pretty harshly as from the little I know about the supreme court they get pretty annoyed about not following protocol.
No matter who did it - it leaked. It was likely one of the people clerking for one of the non right-wing justices.
The challenge is that this is not a Red vs. Blue state issue, this is largely a rural vs. urban divide. There are plenty of rural Californians who are deeply conservative, and plenty of Austin, Houston, Dallas and San Antonio Texans who are deeply liberal.There will be Roe friendly states and non-Roe friendly states for a while.
The unfriendly ones have no doubt got it in their heads that they can bully Roe states into obeying their demands, and without a doubt
they will attempt to bully their own residents into obeying state law OUTSIDE OF that state.
Naturally that will lead to another constitutional crisis with far reaching implications no matter how it is resolved or handled.
We are drifting farther and farther apart into two separate nations with every poisoned SCOTUS ruling.
It will also be interesting first time a state like, say perhaps Texas, tells California how to go about their affairs and California telling Texas to go fork themselves. No doubt that will be repeated amongst the several opposing states for quite a while.
Yes, but abortion legislation isn't passed at the city level. Ultimately this will end up turning into a red/blue state divide when it comes to laws and I am sure the red states will keep trying to put laws in place that punish people who cross state lines for abortions.The challenge is that this is not a Red vs. Blue state issue, this is largely a rural vs. urban divide. There are plenty of rural Californians who are deeply conservative, and plenty of Austin, Houston, Dallas and San Antonio Texans who are deeply liberal.
So...a draft of a decision has been leaked. Interesting.
I wonder...
Is there a "deep state" inside the Supreme Court? You know, like the deep state that leaked so much stuff from the Trump administration? Or, is the Supreme Court taking a page out of the political handbook by deliberately leaking this draft in order to gauge public reaction?
Oh...and lurchadams...I don't really care about RvW. That's why I'm not making a comment on the substance of this leak.
I disagree, I think this is going to amplify the rural/urban divide: red "states" will put laws in place to ban abortion and city mayors will openly defy them challenging the state to test them. That is the sort of thing I expect to happen.Yes, but abortion legislation isn't passed at the city level. Ultimately this will end up turning into a red/blue state divide when it comes to laws and I am sure the red states will keep trying to put laws in place that punish people who cross state lines for abortions.
I mean...I'm not exactly speculating here. They've talked about putting laws like this in place for a while.Any state that puts laws in place punishing people for doing something legal in another state will be signing an economic death sentence
Great questions! Since you're an expert on the Deep State, the Elites, the Establishment, the Puppet Masters, the Handlers and the Pukes, perhaps you can ask your contacts at any of those agencies if they engage with or have any knowledge about potential SCOTUS Deep States, and get to the bottom of this new and interesting conspiracy theory of yours?So...a draft of a decision has been leaked. Interesting.
I wonder...
Is there a "deep state" inside the Supreme Court? You know, like the deep state that leaked so much stuff from the Trump administration? Or, is the Supreme Court taking a page out of the political handbook by deliberately leaking this draft in order to gauge public reaction?
Oh...and lurchadams...I don't really care about RvW. That's why I'm not making a comment on the substance of this leak.
Before us now is one such state law. The State of Mississippi asks us to uphold the constitutionality of a law that generally prohibits an abortion after the fifteenth week of pregnancy—several weeks before the point at which a fetus is now regarded as “viable”outside the womb. In defending this law, the States primary argument is that we should reconsider and overrule Roe and Casey and once again allow each State to regulate abortion as its citizens wish.
"After almost fifty years, Roe vs. Wade is a done deal.I remember being called a fear monger and alarmist for saying the GOP would put judges in that would overturn Roe v Wade.
You are wrong here. We are not moving farther apart. Its just the predictions about political factions by some of our forefathers are coming to fruition. The only actual division is between those that support political factions and those being oppressed by those factions (which includes people in those factions). A bit more complicated than just that, but it's the leaders of our political parties that are telling us to be divided. That's the nature of factions.There will be Roe friendly states and non-Roe friendly states for a while.
The unfriendly ones have no doubt got it in their heads that they can bully Roe states into obeying their demands, and without a doubt
they will attempt to bully their own residents into obeying state law OUTSIDE OF that state.
Naturally that will lead to another constitutional crisis with far reaching implications no matter how it is resolved or handled.
We are drifting farther and farther apart into two separate nations with every poisoned SCOTUS ruling.
It will also be interesting first time a state like, say perhaps Texas, tells California how to go about their affairs and California telling Texas to go fork themselves. No doubt that will be repeated amongst the several opposing states for quite a while.
The challenge is that this is not a Red vs. Blue state issue, this is largely a rural vs. urban divide. There are plenty of rural Californians who are deeply conservative, and plenty of Austin, Houston, Dallas and San Antonio Texans who are deeply liberal.
Yes, but abortion legislation isn't passed at the city level. Ultimately this will end up turning into a red/blue state divide when it comes to laws and I am sure the red states will keep trying to put laws in place that punish people who cross state lines for abortions.
I mean...I'm not exactly speculating here. They've talked about putting laws like this in place for a while.
Would you support a law that makes it punishable, or would you oppose such a law?That law does not punish women who cross state lines to get an abortion. It is perfectly legal in Texas for a woman to go out of state to get an abortion.
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