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We have to "do something" -- what's the something? Choose any that apply.

We have to do something -- the something is....

  • More restrictions on all firearms (explain)

  • More restrictions on some firearms (explain)

  • Ban all firearms for the general population

  • Ban all firearms across the board (gen pop, law enforcement, etc.)

  • Voluntary buy-back program for firearms

  • Involuntary confiscation of some or all firearms

  • Stricter enforcing of gun laws already on the books

  • Harder sentences for those who commit violent crimes

  • Overhaul mental health care (explain)

  • Something else


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More restrictions on all firearms (explain)
  • I think we need a required background check and at least 15 day waiting period for every single transfer of a firearm, even if it's a gift and not a sale.
  • The background check to (hopefully) prevent people who have a serious record from acquiring one, and the waiting period to ensure someone who wanted a firearm to act on a "heat of the moment" rage of some kind has a cooling off period (won't work in all cases probably, but it should help).

Overhaul mental health care (explain)
  • I think we need to make mental health care subsidized so it's completely free for people who can't afford it otherwise. This has to include everyone who needs it, even if they're not a citizen and even if they're in the country illegally.
  • I think we need to educate the population so they know at least some basics about how to respond to someone who has a mental health issue, and beyond that so it's not a stigmatized and taboo subject, as it currently is in all too many areas of culture and territory.
  • This will, quite obviously, take years and probably decades to accomplish.
Mental health practitioners, the ones licensed to prescribe, have no interest in residing and practicing where the most untreated per capita
folks in need of treatment, reside. Practitioner lobbying is a result of a for profit culture that begins with limiting the number of admissions
to medical schools and burdens those who are admitted with tuition debt. Tuition debt provides a recruitment advantage for the U.S. military
which trades tuition assistance for military service. Bottomline is individual state licensing schemes resulting from lobbying prevents interstate
practice of those licensed to prescribe in their own states, so good luck with your good intentions based proposal.

www.nytimes.com
June 4, 2022
"...
but there is only a spotty network of psychiatrists to meet potential need. According to a 2015 estimate based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are 76 percent more psychologists or psychiatrists per capita in blue states than in red states. Roughly 60 percent of counties in the United States — including 80 percent of rural counties — do not have a single psychiatrist practicing there, based on a 2017 report. Most of us are in the Northeast and some counties along the West Coast.

Telepsychiatry and licensing reciprocity laws could allow out-of-state psychiatrists to conduct assessments and thus compensate for their skewed national distribution. This, too, will depend on the restrictiveness of the state..."

Right wing oriented people tend to consult clergy about mental and emotional health symptoms, if they seek help at all. They regard mental health
professionals as liberal, which they overwhelmingly tend to be. Clergy, especially in red states, tend to be science skeptical, partisan G.O.P. and embrace associated
talking points.

We live in a country in which 12 states with G.O.P. controlled state governments deliberately prevent all poorer, working age, non-disabled males
from healthcare coverage for the past 8 years that is enjoyed in the other 38 states and DC despite their policy of only providing stabilizing emergency medical
care costing their states more than if they expanded medicaid.

The fact is that life in red states is comparable to life on another planet for highly educated adults of blue states. They can identify more closely with the
poorest residents in their own geographic area than with the wealthier residents in many red states. The largest population city voting in the majority
for Trump in 2020 was # 22, Oklahoma City, 49.5% white, total population 681,000,

There is no interest to a commercially viable level. This must have been a short lived attempt because there was none, 20 years ago.
Eastern L.I. is 100 miles from Time's Square.

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Better enforcement of existing gun laws, some sort of universal healthcare that includes mental health services, better security at schools.
 
I think we all agree that something has to be done to thwart mass shootings and violence, in general, in the US.

Which do you consider the "something" that should be done?
I say we ban the media from turning mass shooters and other mass murderers into instant celebs. that means ban the media from releasing the name and picture of the mass murderer.That means prevent the media from interviewing people about the mass shooter and speculating as to why he did what he did.Also means banning the media from reading any of his suicide notes, diaries, manifestos or anything else written by the mass shooter. Studies show that mass shootings happen in clusters and the media is responsible for that.



 
I say we ban the media from turning mass shooters and other mass murderers into instant celebs. that means ban the media from releasing the name and picture of the mass murderer.That means prevent the media from interviewing people about the mass shooter and speculating as to why he did what he did.Also means banning the media from reading any of his suicide notes, diaries, manifestos or anything else written by the mass shooter. Studies show that mass shootings happen in clusters and the media is responsible for that.



Okay! Abolish both 1A and 2A !
 
Both are factors - if the penalty is light then it reduces the fear of being caught.
I don't believe your opinion. Any sources that support your claim?
 
I think we all agree that something has to be done to thwart mass shootings and violence, in general, in the US.

Which do you consider the "something" that should be done?
Don't worry, not much is going to change. The kids will continue to be slaughtered. Along with a bunch of adults.
 
A lot of violent crime is in response to other violent crimes. So if someone is locked up for violent crime, then you are not just preventing their future violent crime, but also some violent crime that would have possibly been in response to their future violent crime.
As the most incarcerating nation in the world, your claim is incorrect.
 
I don't believe your opinion. Any sources that support your claim?

You supplied no link to support your assertion (in post #70), thus are in no position to demand that from me.
 
Don't waste your time with the link trolling posters

It’s amusing that he persists in demanding that others supply links, yet does not do so himself. In his post #105 he asks for a (source) link in response to my post #69 which contained the link (and quotes from it).
 
The death penalty is 100% effective in eliminating repeat offenders.
Yeah, the possibility of infringing the rights of innocent peope is intolerable but the possibility of executing them is acceptable.
There a reason why capital punishment is just a Muslim and Asian thing nowadays. Those are the only people who have such a trust of and obedience to authority that they allow the State the right to execute citizens. Them and American conservatives.
 
Yeah, the possibility of infringing the rights of innocent peope is intolerable but the possibility of executing them is acceptable.
There a reason why capital punishment is just a Muslim and Asian thing nowadays. Those are the only people who have such a trust of and obedience to authority that they allow the State the right to execute citizens. Them and American conservatives.
Would you say most personns who are convicted of a major violent crime are actually innocent?
 
You supplied no link to support your assertion (in post #70), thus are in no position to demand that from me.
Talk about reading it...
#70 clearly states that it is my opinion.
 
Talk about reading it...
#70 clearly states that it is my opinion.

Yep and in post #106 you stated “I don‘t believe your opinion.” and then asked for sources. Maybe it’s time for you to take your nap.
 
Would you say most personns who are convicted of a major violent crime are actually innocent?
Of course I wouldnt. Would you say nobody has ever been wrongly convicted of a major violent crime?
 
"Overhaul mental health care" barely scratches the surface of the issue. It's not just that we need to get a handle on the existing crazies. We need to take steps to reduce their numbers going forward, and that's going to have to be proactive.

We need to create a situation where the ones struggling with these issues are actually found and helped early, and just that on it's own is a massive undertaking just to make our existing programs actually become effective. We need to create an environment where an awkward kid isn't socially crushed by default.

Unfortunately, I don't think we're anywhere close to where we're going to need to be to take that seriously.
 
No, but when there is no doubt?
There's supposed to be no doubt every time. It would be abysmally wrong-headed to say we'll only execute when there's no doubt. If there is doubt, what should the sentence be?
I dont trust the government or any other authorities to cut the grass in the parks or issue fishing licences without corruption and incompetence. I sure as hell dont support them having the power to execute citizens.
 
There's supposed to be no doubt every time. It would be abysmally wrong-headed to say we'll only execute when there's no doubt. If there is doubt, what should the sentence be?
I dont trust the government or any other authorities to cut the grass in the parks or issue fishing licences without corruption and incompetence. I sure as hell dont support them having the power to execute citizens.

It's not the government that is executing them. It's the jury that is convicting them and the jury approving the sentence. The state just flips the switch.
 
Yep and in post #106 you stated “I don‘t believe your opinion.” and then asked for sources. Maybe it’s time for you to take your nap.
What is your problem with that? If you don't provide a source for an opinion, it remains an opinion. I(f you choose not to provide a source, I discount your opinion, and I could care less what you think of mine.
 
Most of the (serious) crime in the US (or any country) is committed by a small percentage of the total population. In other words, most of the (serious) crime is committed by a small subset of the population. That is why recidivism rates are such a big deal.





https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/Llgsfp.pdf
Source for your claim?
As far as criminal activity in the political arena, he must be describing elected G.O.P., their friends, and members of their staffs, if Trump's campaign, presidency, and the data here are an indication. It is reasonable to believe the same is true in other categories of crime, folks in each segment "cornering their market," so to speak!


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