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Was Trump right to attack this judge?

Was Trump right to attack this judge?

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apdst said:
If the judge is biased for any reason, it's worth Trump bringing up.
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Don't you think trump would suffer much greater and lasting damage if the Judge recused himself under pressure from trump's railroading attempts ?
 
apdst said:
Are you saying that's the same thing?
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The same thing that the Texas Attorney General did after taking trump's campaign contribution bribes !!
 
NIMBY said:
The same thing that the Texas Attorney General did after taking trump's campaign contribution bribes !!
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And the same thing that Curiel is doing?

Don't let Your partisan hackery get the best of you.
 
NIMBY said:
Don't you think trump would suffer much greater and lasting damage if the Judge recused himself under pressure from trump's railroading attempts ?
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Depends on which judge took Curiel's place, I guess. It might be someone even more corrupt than Curiel, which would be bad for Trump.
 
apdst said:
Just like everyone else, they're afraid of being called a racist. "Racist", is the latest addition to the Godwin law.
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Based on trump's Judge remarks, you're well aware he's lost support as well as endorsements from his own GOP Senators, especially those up for reelection. I'm reading far more GOPs denouncing trump for his remarks than DEMs, who are just packaging these remarks as ads against trump .
 
Grand Mal said:
If Trump can influence the judiciary on those terms, throw the whole system into the dumpster and start over.
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You're ok with political/racial/religious bias on the bench?
 
NIMBY said:
Based on trump's Judge remarks, you're well aware he's lost support as well as endorsements from his own GOP Senators, especially those up for reelection. I'm reading far more GOPs denouncing trump for his remarks than DEMs, who are just packaging these remarks as ads against trump .
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Which senators?
 
apdst said:
Depends on which judge took Curiel's place, I guess. It might be someone even more corrupt than Curiel, which would be bad for Trump.
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Corrupt, in a trumposter's mind, meaning any Judge who would rule against him.

You are surely aware the Judge did trump a favor by moving the trial until after the election .
 
NIMBY said:
You already know the answer to that question---pretty overwhelming for you I'm sure .
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Just throw out a few, off the top of your head.
 
apdst said:
Just throw out a few, off the top of your head.
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Try both Senators from AZ, including the one trump mocked as a POW. Cruz, Rubio, Wicker, McConnell, Ayotte, Sasse, Cornyn, Collins, Burr--just off the top for you. The rest of them won't even discuss trump anymore, except Hatch. Even Sessions and a vulnerable Grassley are taking a step back .
 
MaggieD said:
I think, if the judge or his parents are from Mexico, that it's reasonable for Trump to ask the judge to recuse himself. I sincerely believe that, within our legal system in cases like this, even the PERCEPTION of bias should be avoided.
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But that would make any woman or person from Mexican descent automatically unable to rule over a Trump case purely due to their heritage. Sorry but that is not OK in my book. There has to be a presumption of judicial honesty or there has to be a realistic and reasonable reason to expect a judge to be biased towards a case or a candidate and "just because their parents are immigrants" is not that reason.
 
apdst said:
The case is 6 years old. The request to release the documents was 2 months old. Curiel ordered the release after Trump biblically criticized him. Those are facts. There are two options: 1) it's all just a strange coincidence, or 2) The timing of the release is by design.

Curiel is also a member of The San Diego La Raza Lawyer's Association. Part of its mission statement is, "Improve the delivery and access of legal services to the county’s Spanish speaking community." Trump plans on shrinking the Spanish speaking community, which will cut into all these lawyer's pocketbooks. No doubt is friends with those lawyers whose pocket books could be affected.
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Biblically criticized him? Did I miss something?
 
apdst said:
You're ok with political/racial/religious bias on the bench?
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You're fine with trying to influence a judge before a case has been heard?
 
apdst said:
The case is 6 years old. The request to release the documents was 2 months old. Curiel ordered the release after Trump biblically criticized him. Those are facts. There are two options: 1) it's all just a strange coincidence, or 2) The timing of the release is by design.

Curiel is also a member of The San Diego La Raza Lawyer's Association. Part of its mission statement is, "Improve the delivery and access of legal services to the county’s Spanish speaking community." Trump plans on shrinking the Spanish speaking community, which will cut into all these lawyer's pocketbooks. No doubt is friends with those lawyers whose pocket books could be affected.
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The website also says..."a non-partisan voice for Latinos" and it's affiliated with the National Bar Association. It is also barred from engaging in political campaigns.


Apparently, conservatives are confusing the La Raza Lawyer Association [LRLA] with the civil rights group, National Council of La Raza....


Trump and some of his supporters have pointed to the judge's membership in La Raza Lawyers of San Diego, a local group for Hispanic lawyers that is affiliated with the Hispanic National Bar Association.

Some Trump supporters have incorrectly linked La Raza Lawyers group to the National Council of La Raza, a 50-year-old civil rights group that has been strongly critical of Trump's proposals on immigration, as well as his idea to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the United States.

The NCLR's non-profit designation bars it from engaging in political campaigns, and the group's website describes it as a "nonpartisan voice for Latinos."
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The Judge's Mexican heritage has nothing to do with Trump University. I think Trump calling out a federal judge like that is a deliberate attempt to undermine the rule of law....and so do a lot of conservative and libertarian legal scholars...

Even as much of the Republican political establishment lines up behind its presumptive nominee, many conservative and libertarian legal scholars warn that electing Mr. Trump is a recipe for a constitutional crisis.

And, in what was a tipping point for some, he attacked Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel of the Federal District Court in San Diego, who is overseeing two class actions against Trump University.

David Post, a retired law professor who now writes for the Volokh Conspiracy, a conservative-leaning law blog, said those comments had crossed a line....
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Donald Trump Could Threaten U.S. Rule of Law, Scholars Say


It's not a good sign when a candidate who is running to be the commander in chief of law enforcement and to uphold the rule of law is attacking and undermining the rule of law and threatening to violate the constitution before he's even elected. Really, how stupid does Trump have to be before he's too stupid even for his supporters?
 
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apdst said:
You're ok with political/racial/religious bias on the bench?
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What is your evidence that there is political/racial/religious bias on the bench? There does, however, seem to be plenty of evidence of political/racial/religious bias amongst the defense.
 
apdst said:
You're ok with a judge letting his bias influence the case?
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The case is about Trump university not the judge's Mexican heritage.

Just because Trump is biased doesn't mean the judge is.
 
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