Was there a vast conspiracy to dethrone Trump?

[Moi621]

Of course most foreign aid benefits US corporations. That's how the Swamp works. We just shouldn't be doing it this year.

It also involves cash to cover corruption charges.

Foreign aid should just be as "product".

 

[Lovebug]

It is a possibility. His campaign took a lot of people by surprise, his win even more so. My guess is that a lot of politicians, and other influential people, puckered their collective sphincters.

 

[Rich2018]

Was there a "vast conspiracy to 'dethrone' Trump?"

IMO? Yes.

And over 81,000,000 votes - pretty big conspiracy

But it did not involve "all the election officials and judges." No.

It did not involve ANY election officials, beyond their personal vote

IMO it did involve some Democrats and a few Republicans, and some election officials and partisan judges especially in a few key States.

Only with respect to their personal votes
No election official did anything illegal

But IMO it was mainly fostered by a combine of globalist interests. This would include the big multinational tech and industrial interests who control the bulk of media/information services, the members of the government "swamp" who owe their continued political power to the financial resources of those interests...

What about Fox News
Yes there was a tidal wave of anti-Trump sentiment - proven by the fact that many votes were for Biden but Republical congressmen/senators - explain that away if you can

....and a bit of help from China and perhaps even Russia.

What "help" ?

Did we get a drip, drip, drip of e-mail revelations like we got last year about Hillary ?

That is clearly evidenced in how the MSM, Social Media, Information Media (Google, etc.) and both the Democrats and those "Lincoln" Republicans have acted throughout the 4 years preceding the elections. Right up to using Covid-19 as the excuse to rush through mass-mail voting (not to be confused with existing absentee balloting) which even the Democrats used to admit was the least secure, most open to fraud method for voting.

But there was no fraud, even Trump's corrupt former AG Bill Barr said so

And where is the evidence you speak of ?

So under those points I would vote "yes," if there were an actual poll.

Remember to send your $50 to Trump's campaign. By the sound of it, you represent his target audience od sheeple.

 

[JasperL]

Was there a "vast conspiracy to 'dethrone' Trump?"

IMO? Yes.

But it did not involve "all the election officials and judges." No.

IMO it did involve some Democrats and a few Republicans, and some election officials and partisan judges especially in a few key States.

But IMO it was mainly fostered by a combine of globalist interests. This would include the big multinational tech and industrial interests who control the bulk of media/information services, the members of the government "swamp" who owe their continued political power to the financial resources of those interests, and a bit of help from China and perhaps even Russia.

That is clearly evidenced in how the MSM, Social Media, Information Media (Google, etc.) and both the Democrats and those "Lincoln" Republicans have acted throughout the 4 years preceding the elections. Right up to using Covid-19 as the excuse to rush through mass-mail voting (not to be confused with existing absentee balloting) which even the Democrats used to admit was the least secure, most open to fraud method for voting.

So under those points I would vote "yes," if there were an actual poll.

LOL, of course, it's not Trump's fault he's a loser.

 

[j brown's body]

Was there a "vast conspiracy to 'dethrone' Trump?"

IMO? Yes.

But it did not involve "all the election officials and judges." No.

IMO it did involve some Democrats and a few Republicans, and some election officials and partisan judges especially in a few key States.

But IMO it was mainly fostered by a combine of globalist interests. This would include the big multinational tech and industrial interests who control the bulk of media/information services, the members of the government "swamp" who owe their continued political power to the financial resources of those interests, and a bit of help from China and perhaps even Russia.

That is clearly evidenced in how the MSM, Social Media, Information Media (Google, etc.) and both the Democrats and those "Lincoln" Republicans have acted throughout the 4 years preceding the elections. Right up to using Covid-19 as the excuse to rush through mass-mail voting (not to be confused with existing absentee balloting) which even the Democrats used to admit was the least secure, most open to fraud method for voting.

So under those points I would vote "yes," if there were an actual poll.

don't forget Venezuela.

 

[JasperL]

don't forget Venezuela.

And the dead and gone Chavez! He was part of it too!! And Iran, and GOP officials all across GA. ERIC CROOMER!! Etc.

It's hard to reason with someone whose position is based on baseless CTs.

 

[Moi621]

Was there a "vast conspiracy to 'dethrone' Trump?"

IMO? Yes.

But it did not involve "all the election officials and judges." No.

IMO it did involve some Democrats and a few Republicans, and some election officials and partisan judges especially in a few key States.

But IMO it was mainly fostered by a combine of globalist interests. This would include the big multinational tech and industrial interests who control the bulk of media/information services, the members of the government "swamp" who owe their continued political power to the financial resources of those interests, and a bit of help from China and perhaps even Russia.

That is clearly evidenced in how the MSM, Social Media, Information Media (Google, etc.) and both the Democrats and those "Lincoln" Republicans have acted throughout the 4 years preceding the elections. Right up to using Covid-19 as the excuse to rush through mass-mail voting (not to be confused with existing absentee balloting) which even the Democrats used to admit was the least secure, most open to fraud method for voting.

So under those points I would vote "yes," if there were an actual poll.

It was a conglomerate of interests as you point out.
Like those who funded Epstein's surprising death.
Too many with funding means and the same target focusing.


Moi

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Tacos are Life
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[roguenuke]

We shouldn't be sending out any foreign aid this year considering we need that money for our own citizens in need.

Then where will those countries be? People act as if forgoing foreign aid will simply be easy, no big deal. Then they wonder how countries like Russia and China gain power, more standing in the world. It is because part of world politics involves giving a little aid to other countries in order to advance western ideology and gain allies against others deemed our enemies. Both China and Russia would love to gain allegiances with places like Pakistan or just weaken those countries to allow their allies to make easier prey of them. That is world politics. Foreign aid is part of keeping the world stable, which helps America in the long run.

 

[Waddy]

I still don't understand why not, if it winds up benefitting US workers.

That's the line the Swamp wants you to swallow. But It benefits corporations, and their stockholders, many of whom are Congressmen, much more than workers. If you want to help the workers, send them that money directly. Problem solved.

 

[Waddy]

Then where will those countries be? People act as if forgoing foreign aid will simply be easy, no big deal. Then they wonder how countries like Russia and China gain power, more standing in the world. It is because part of world politics involves giving a little aid to other countries in order to advance western ideology and gain allies against others deemed our enemies. Both China and Russia would love to gain allegiances with places like Pakistan or just weaken those countries to allow their allies to make easier prey of them. That is world politics. Foreign aid is part of keeping the world stable, which helps America in the long run.

No, it doesn't. Most of the recipient countries play off one donor country against another. And the US aid is usually channeled to American defense contractors. Nice deal if you're a Congressman; you'll know ahead of time which companies will get those contracts and the stock go up. That's one way people like Pelosi become multi-millionaires while in office. And insider trading isn't illegal if you're a Congressman. The Swamp is in charge.

 

[FlaMike13]

Basically, was there a vast conspiracy against Trump? Involving all the election officials and judges? Republicans and Democrats?

I don't really care as long as he is gone and can no longer do damage to our once great nation. Good riddance to him and his dysfunctional family.

 

[roguenuke]

No, it doesn't. Most of the recipient countries play off one donor country against another. And the US aid is usually channeled to American defense contractors. Nice deal if you're a Congressman; you'll know ahead of time which companies will get those contracts and the stock go up. That's one way people like Pelosi become multi-millionaires while in office. And insider trading isn't illegal if you're a Congressman. The Swamp is in charge.

Yet which ones are being pushed to be elected right now in a run off which actually have recorded incidents of insider training?

Insider trading laws should apply to Congressmen and women as they do everyone else. There is no argument.

 

[Rich2018]

Over 81 million people ganged together to vote him out.

 

[Moi621]

Over 81 million people ganged together to vote him out.

Under what influences?
Trump was not even afforded the usual Honeymoon period by the LSM
4 years of incessant attack with no acknowledgement of what he has done
right, is not journalism. It is paid for advertisements.

Spare me the, What Has Trump Done Right snark.
Consider no new deployments,
No new Not At War, Wars.
No "Operation Manhood" seen with Clinton & Bush, Jr. Obama just enhanced
what was there and brought in the drones. Obama had to seek balance with
his anti colonialism

And so it goes . . .

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