The Trump cult kept squealing that America needed to “be made great again”, so clearly there was so point in which they thought everything was hunky dory.
So in other words not any period in which the far right had any influence. Got it.
And so were the patriots until Jul 4, 1776
What happen just before?
Shot heard around the world?
Battle of Bunker hill
you read far too much into what was merely a good campaign slogan.
it was the media lies that told you to believe it was the worst thing since nazism
Which one? The American Revolution? Or the attempted Sedition of 1/6?What say you?
you read far too much into what was merely a good campaign slogan.
it was the media lies that told you to believe it was the worst thing since nazism
Which one? The American Revolution? Or the attempted Sedition of 1/6?
lol
The Founding Fathers were more aligned with classical liberalism, which more closely resembles libertarianism than modern US liberalism. The modern US conservatism would have us kissing King George's ass.
Or the attempted Sedition of 1/6?
The Founding Fathers were more aligned with classical liberalism
You've been snorting that white acid powder from your battery terminals again, haven't you.
Wrong,,,, They only wanted the same rights as Englishmen
Yes- but that IS classical liberalism- since the word liberal comes from the word “liberty”- they wanted their rights and liberties as free Englishman conserved, and King George was not giving it to these colonists. Many of these were rights the English had one for themselves about a century earlier, during the English Civil War- a fight between the parliamentarians and monarchists. The parliamentarians had won. Conservatives were the ones fighting to preserve the monarchy and aristocracy. King George was not giving him these rights because he did not consider the colonists full Englishmen, and was not granting them for representation parliament. That’s why one of the slogans of the American revolution was “no taxation without representation” (not “no taxation”- which is the slogan of today’s American conservatives).
Today’s use of the word liberal is coming to favor more regulations comes from the industrial revolution. Early in the industrial revolution, belief in the complete free market was very strong. This was leading to ever increasing monopoly power of a few large corporations, who were generating a lot of wealth, but all of it was staying in the hands of a handful of factory owners, who are becoming more wealthy than entire nations. The ever increasing exploitation and horrible working conditions of factory workers, and the ever increasing disparity of wealth between them and the factory owners, was leading to a lot of social instability. The expanding and growing exploitation and abuse of of child labor was particularly appalling to many people. These are the working conditions that led to Karl Marx calling for violent revolution by the workers. These Marxist parties were actually starting to make significant gains in the polls, especially in Europe which were the first countries to have undergone industrialization. And he’s were radical leftist calling for violence and bloodshed. This really began to reach a boiling point by the 1890s in Europe.
So this is where a group of “neoliberals”, wanting to preserve the free market and keep violent leftist Marxists at bay, proposed a few basic and common sense regulations on the free market, such as child labor laws, workplace safety laws, minimum-wage laws, and allowing of worker unionization. The conservatives at the time were those classical liberals fighting to preserve a complete free market and the plutocracy that was developing- more akin to the libertarians of today. But with the passage of these regulatory measures pushed by the neoliberals, things stabilized and the free market was saved. So it was really Disney liberals liberals who saved the free market from Marxist communism.
Over time, these “neoliberals” came to be known as just liberals, and the conservatives came to mean those who did notbelieve in any regulation or safety nets on the free market.
What say you?
Are we writing a book or something or copying a book?
And Patriots until July 4, 1776
No and I didn't say it was. I said that neither the far left nor the far Right sees the Founders, our Founding Documents and the very Founding itself in its proper context and as such makes all sorts of assumptions that are simply inaccurate and unfounded (pardon the pun). In addition the entire political landscape is now littered with talking heads and bloggers and all sorts of unqualified whack jobs peddling nonsense based on absurd assumptions about the intentions of the Founders and the actual meaning and even the structure of of this Republic.
The difference is that the far Right has now absorbed most of the Right in total and is entirely willing to burn the Republic to the ground even to the point of fomenting Insurrection and violent overthrow to achieve what is a pretty absurd goal, the acquisition of enough power to declare the United States as dominated by Whiteness to eternity. The Rank and File are willing to swallow THE BIG LIE whole as long as they can continue in fear and ignorance to wipe out what they fear out of ignorance. It's Cultural Nationalism taken to the level of insanity and fueled by fear and ignorance. They are so bad off now that beyond build a wall around the place, they cannot even tell anybody what they would do with the Country if they achieved ultimate power. They have no policies and no platform other than their last political statement of any merit "whatever donnie wants" and "no more immigrants unless they come from Europe". Their recurring mantra is "nothing to see here" as they take the Republic apart brick by brick waving the flag on its flagpole one minute and beating those tasked with defending aspects of the Republic with the business end of the very same flagpole the next.
The country's Socialists do reside on the far Left. However they have not shown an inclination to violent overthrow or Insurrection to this point. They do have policies and platforms and agendas as does the rest of the Democrat Party that does not reside with them on the far Left.
For now, the Democrat Party is the only functioning major political party in the country now that the Republicans have abandoned the field adopting instead celebrity, personality, performance art, whack job CT Qanon, Donald Trump and venom.
The question was, "Specifically, what do modern liberals have in common with classic liberals?", and the answer of course, is practically nothing.
Ok, left's talk about civil liberties and modern liberals.
1. Modern liberals are, and have always been, hostile to free speech. They want to silence anyone who expresses politically incorrect opinions about Covid, global warming, the innate differences between men and women, the heritability of IQ, and so on and so forth. The so-called civil rights act of 1964 makes it so a real estate agent can't even talk about the most basic aspects of a neighborhood:
Don't bother defending the idea of the rotten government controlling what real estate agents may talk about, because it only confirms your own hostility to free speech.
2. Modern liberals are generally against the right to keep and bear arms, which is necessary for the right to self-defense, and hence an extremely important civil liberty. The ACLU will not defend the second amendment.
3. Finally, the hero of the typical idiot modern liberal is FDR - the man who committed the worst civil rights violation in US history aside from slavery.
No, they don't. Modern liberals despise the idea of economic freedom. Need I remind you that Bernie Sanders, who is a filthy communist, almost won the Democratic nomination?
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