Was 9/11 Really A Surprise Attack?

[Mark F]

You would not believe me if I told you Mark.

Your standard cop-out.

I don't believe you most of the time because most of the things you say are not factual and can be demonstrated to not be factual.

 

[mike2810]

Thanks Mike, I'm glad you approve of my wide base of information sources. You should try it.

MSM is mostly government propaganda, and reading it lets me know how they want me to think.

Non-MSM sources often lets me know what the government does NOT want me to know or think. Finding the balance is the art. :mrgreen:

You are true conspiracy theory person. Where in my statement did I state I "approved" your sources? Prove that it does or retract.

Typical response from you by not really addressing the post in a meaningful way. I must have been correct in how you use sources. If it does not fit your view, its rejected. Got it.


Like you I use a wide range of sources. Not much of an issue to detect when one is being scammed, if one looks with an open mind.

 

[Mark F]

Since there was some discussion of the mythical "28 Redacted Pages" in this thread I figured with the release of those pages today I would move it BTT.

Here's the link.

'28 pages': Congress releases report on alleged Saudi 9/11 ties - CNNPolitics.com

So far CT's are surprisingly quiet about the release of these pages they have been clamoring for years to see. Come on guys, where is the inside job smoking gun you have been promising us was hiding in these pages?

 

[mike2810]

Since there was some discussion of the mythical "28 Redacted Pages" in this thread I figured with the release of those pages today I would move it BTT.

Here's the link.

'28 pages': Congress releases report on alleged Saudi 9/11 ties - CNNPolitics.com

So far CT's are surprisingly quiet about the release of these pages they have been clamoring for years to see. Come on guys, where is the inside job smoking gun you have been promising us was hiding in these pages?

If they respond, I expect someone to state the pages have been altered. That the released documents are not the "truth".:lamo

 

[Quag]

Your standard cop-out.

I don't believe you most of the time because most of the things you say are not factual and can be demonstrated to not be factual.

Just a variation on a theme, usually he claims you wouldn't understand.
Typical nonsense from our resident "flight instructor"

The real truth is that HD refuses to understand because it conflicts with his world view.

 

[Kane]

The OCT was a fabrication for sure... false narrative to leverage the US into ME wars, but what parts of the OCT are impossible?

Dear Sander,


Long time no see.

How's everything going at the company?:mrgreen:

So, what are they paying you these days?


HA HA HA - just kidding.


What do we have a Director of Central Intelligence, Homeland Security, or an FBI for ?

If the U.S. can't assimilate an obvious threat warning -

get the hell out and close up shop.
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SEPT. 11 TH WARNINGS

FROM ALLIES - RUSSIA, GERMAN, BRITAIN, EGYPT, JORDAN
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Warnings the Attack Will Come from the Air

Many warnings specifically mentioned a threat coming from the air.

In 1999, British intelligence gave a secret report to the US embassy. The report stated that al-Qaeda had plans to use “commercial aircraft” in “unconventional ways,”“possibly as flying bombs.” [Sunday Times, 6/9/02] On July 16, 2001, British intelligence passed a message to the US that al-Qaeda was in “the final stages” of preparing a terrorist attack in Western countries. [London Times, 6/14/02] In early August, the British gave another warning, telling the US to expect multiple airline hijackings from al-Qaeda. This warning was included in Bush’s briefing on August 6, 2001. [Sunday Herald, 5/19/02]

In June 2001, German intelligence warned the US, Britain, and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft and use them as weapons to attack “American and Israeli symbols which stand out.” Within the American intelligence community, “the warnings were taken seriously and surveillance intensified” but “there was disagreement on how such terrorist attacks could be prevented.” This warning came from Echelon, a spy satellite network that is partly based in Germany. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01]

In late July 2001, Egyptian intelligence received a report from an undercover agent in Afghanistan that “20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas.” To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn’t sound terribly alarming, but they passed on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. “The request never came.” [CBS, 10/9/02] Given that there were 19 hijackers and four pilots (who trained on Cessnas) in the 9/11 plot, one might think this would now be a big news item. But in fact, the information has only appeared as an aside in a CBS “60 Minutes” show about a different topic.

In late summer 2001, Jordan intelligence intercepted a message stating that a major attack was being planned inside the US and that aircraft would be used. The code name of the operation was Big Wedding, which did in fact turn out to be the codename of the 9/11 plot. The message was passed to US intelligence through several channels. [International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/02]

Russian President Vladimir Putin publicly stated that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US in the summer of 2001 that suicide pilots were training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02] The head of Russian intelligence also stated, “We had clearly warned them” on several occasions, but they “did not pay the necessary attention.” [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/01] The Russian newspaper Izvestia claimed that Russian intelligence agents knew the participants in the attacks, and: “More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation for these actions a couple of weeks before they happened.” [Izvestia, 9/12/02]

 

[Kane]

like in the Boston Bombing the U.S. Government was tracking Tamerlan Tsarnaev back and forth from country to country ... but did nothing.


Russia Warned U.S. About Tsarnaev, But Spelling Issue Let Him Escape

"The Russian government warned U.S. authorities that Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a violent radical Islamist more than a year and a half before the April 2013 bombing, but authorities missed multiple chances to detain Tsarnaev when he was traveling to and from Dagestan for terror training, according to a soon-to-be released Congressional report."


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/b...-about-tsarnaev-spelling-issue-let-him-n60836

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see also:


Unanswered Questions About Tamerlan Tsarnaev

Jamie Bologna and Meghna Chakrabarti

....

"McPhee is an Emmy-nominated investigative journalist for ABC News. She’s also a former AM talk radio host and to some, a controversial columnist. But McPhee also has deep sources within local law enforcement, a network she’s developed after years of working at the Boston Herald and as police bureau chief for the New York Daily News.

In "Maximum Harm," McPhee gathers a constellation of law enforcement sources and new evidence that lead her to a startling allegation: She believes federal authorities offered to help Tsarnaev become a U.S. citizen in exchange for being an informant."

Unanswered Questions About Tamerlan Tsarnaev | Radio Boston

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Senator accuses US of 'intelligence failings' in tracking Tamerlan Tsarnaev

"Lindsay Graham criticises earlier investigations by both the FBI and CIA
as Boston police face mounting questions over manhunt "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/25/boston-intelligence-failings-tamerlan-tsarnaev

 

[Kane]

All the Times Authorities Were Warned About Nikolas Cruz


"On Feb. 5, 2016, an anonymous caller told a Broward County Sheriff's Office deputy that then-17-year-old Nikolas Cruz had threatened to shoot up his school on Instagram. Cruz had posted a photo of himself with a collection of guns."





Sheriff's Office Confirms 23 Nikolas Cruz Encounters Before Shooting

Sheriff's Office Confirms 23 Nikolas Cruz Encounters Before Shooting





Sheriff's Office Confirms 23 Nikolas Cruz Encounters Before Shooting

FBI admits it failed to investigate a tip from person

close to Florida shooter warning of his desire to conduct a school shooting

New York Post, The Sun and staff writers, News Corp Australia Network,

February 17, 2018


"THE FBI knew about gunman Nikolas Cruz’s ‘desire to kill people’ and disturbing social media posts — but failed to investigate him.


The Federal Bureau of Investigation received the information on January 5 but they failed to investigate Cruz, who killed 17 when he opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Wednesday.

“On January 5, 2018, a person close to Nikolas Cruz contacted the FBI’s Public Access Line (PAL) tipline to report concerns about him,” the FBI’s statement read.

“The caller provided information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.”


Florida school shooting: FBI ignored warning

 

[Kane]

The OCT was a fabrication for sure... false narrative to leverage the US into ME wars, but what parts of the OCT are impossible?

28,000 airstrikes a year, ( most of them in Iraq and Syria ) for 4 years straight.


In both Libya and Syria - Obama, Hillary used White Phosphorous powder bombs, which sticks to your skin exactly like Napalm and burns the Arab people, sometimes to the bone.


Obama burned babies.

Obama burned babies.

 

[zyzygy]

zzzzzzzzzzz...........

 

[cuban smokes]

9/11 was certainly no surprise, to a certain small group of individuals

 

[Thoreau72]

Considering that in 1978 the movie by Arnon Milchan and Peter Van Greenway including artwork and dialogue regarding hijacked airliners being flown into WTC, the idea was certainly not original in 2001. The Medusa Touch was the title, and Richard Burton and Lee Remick starred.

If Israeli movie makers knew of the general idea of aircraft attacking WTC in 1978, it's hard to say that KSM or anybody else was the mastermind behind the plot.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/medusa_touch/

 

[Kane]

Thank the Lord we got Pres. Trump, not Hillary


She transformed the Middle East into a powder keg, let her blown up nations become failed states, and left them to become bases for ISIS.

Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention
By Brad Hoff | Jan 6, 2016



"But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails: admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U.S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves threatening European currency.

Hillary’s Death Squads

A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief [archived here] on Libya, sent by long time close adviser to the Clintons and Hillary’s unofficial intelligence gatherer, Sidney Blumenthal, contains clear evidence of war crimes on the part of NATO-backed rebels. Citing a rebel commander source “speaking in strict confidence” Blumenthal reports to Hillary [emphasis mine]:

Under attack from allied Air and Naval forces, the Libyan Army troops have begun to desert to the rebel side in increasing numbers. The rebels are making an effort to greet these troops as fellow Libyans, in an effort to encourage additional defections.

(Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting…).



https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ls-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/


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Protecting al-Qaeda: Guest Analysis by Steven Chovanec

March 1, 2016 by Brad Hoff

Nusra’s FSA

"Recently a leader of the Nusra group appeared in a video presenting an FSA commander with a gift while saying that there is no difference between the FSA, Ahrar al-Sham, and al-Qaeda. “They are all one,” he explains. The Nusra field commander goes on to thank the FSA for supplying Nusra with US-made TOW anti-tank missiles, which were given to the FSA directly, of course, from the CIA.

A month prior to these revelations reports started to surface about the unfolding situation in “rebel-held” Idlib. Despite the repressive dress codes and savage Islamist laws it became apparent that the FSA was only operating under the authority of the more powerful al-Qaeda rebels."


https://levantreport.com/2016/03/01/protecting-al-qaeda-guest-analysis-by-steven-chovanec/

 

[Tigerace117]

Thank the Lord we got Pres. Trump, not Hillary


She transformed the Middle East into a powder keg, let her blown up nations become failed states, and left them to become bases for ISIS.

Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention
By Brad Hoff | Jan 6, 2016



"But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails: admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U.S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves threatening European currency.

Hillary’s Death Squads

A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief [archived here] on Libya, sent by long time close adviser to the Clintons and Hillary’s unofficial intelligence gatherer, Sidney Blumenthal, contains clear evidence of war crimes on the part of NATO-backed rebels. Citing a rebel commander source “speaking in strict confidence” Blumenthal reports to Hillary [emphasis mine]:

Under attack from allied Air and Naval forces, the Libyan Army troops have begun to desert to the rebel side in increasing numbers. The rebels are making an effort to greet these troops as fellow Libyans, in an effort to encourage additional defections.

(Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting…).



https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ls-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/


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Protecting al-Qaeda: Guest Analysis by Steven Chovanec

March 1, 2016 by Brad Hoff

Nusra’s FSA

"Recently a leader of the Nusra group appeared in a video presenting an FSA commander with a gift while saying that there is no difference between the FSA, Ahrar al-Sham, and al-Qaeda. “They are all one,” he explains. The Nusra field commander goes on to thank the FSA for supplying Nusra with US-made TOW anti-tank missiles, which were given to the FSA directly, of course, from the CIA.

A month prior to these revelations reports started to surface about the unfolding situation in “rebel-held” Idlib. Despite the repressive dress codes and savage Islamist laws it became apparent that the FSA was only operating under the authority of the more powerful al-Qaeda rebels."


https://levantreport.com/2016/03/01/protecting-al-qaeda-guest-analysis-by-steven-chovanec/

Lol what a joke. The Assad apologists are, as usual, grasping at straws.

Not to mention, of course, the usual wails of the Gaddafi apologists.

 

[Kane]

WAR IS A LIE WE DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYMORE

And it doeesn't end there: America was always ABOUT WAR PROFITEERS



More Evidence FDR Knew About Pearl In Advance, Advance Warning?
The Red Cross Connection
By Daryl S. Borgquist
12-10-4

"A previously unsubstantiated report that President Franklin D. Roosevelt requested the national office of the American Red Cross to send medical supplies secretly to Pearl Harbor in advance of the 7 December 1941 Japanese attack is beginning to look much more feasible."

More Evidence FDR Knew About Pearl In Advance

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Gross Deception Predecessors To 9/11

President Roosevelt ('FDR') Had Foreknowledge Of Pearl Harbor
And Let It Happen In Order To Take US Into WWII

"One of the most exotic melodramas of the century might be titled 'The Great Code Mystery' or, 'How Much Did We Know about the Japs?' According to the celebrated letter which General Marshall sent to Governor Dewey during the 1944 presidential campaign, we somehow had broken the top Japanese diplomatic code some time before Pearl Harbor. It also seems clear that in some manner the U. S. Navy obtained the Jap navy codes (as distinguished from diplomatic codes) and throughout the war was informed about important Japanese moves and maneuvers."

The Secret Language of War
Life Magazine, 26 November 1945

"This year marks the sixtieth anniversary of a military disaster whose name has become synonymous with surprise - the attack on Pearl Harbor. Interestingly, that 'surprise attack' was preceded by an astonishing number of unheeded warnings and missed signals. An ultra-secret code-breaking operation, one of the most remarkable achievements in American intelligence history, an operation called 'Magic,' had unlocked the most private Japanese communications, but the operation was considered so secret and so vulnerable to compromise that the distribution of its product was restricted to the point that our field commanders didn't make the 'need-to-know' list."

Remarks by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Michie Stadium, West Point, NY, Saturday, June 02, 2001
Commencement Address at the U.S. Military Academy, West Point
Department Of Defense Speech Transcript

"On the wall in my office at SIS hung the original of General Eisenhower's letter of July 12, 1945, to Sir Stewart Menzies, the third chief of SIS. The letter expressed 'heartfelt admiration and sincere thanks' to the director and staff of Bletchley Park for the intelligence that 'emanated from you' before and during the campaign in Europe..... The penetration of German, Italian and Japanese communications was a global enterprise, led in key respects from Bletchley Park, the HQ of the Government Code & Cypher School (GC &CS), GCHQ's name from 1919-1946.... The 'special relationship' can be dated to February 8, 1941, when a US intelligence delegation came to the office of Alastair Denniston, the director at Bletchley. America was not yet in the war and there was no formal alliance between the US and the UK. At this meeting they began exchanging their nation's biggest secrets - the breaking of German and Japanese top-level ciphers."

Sir John Scarlett, chief of the Secret Intelligence Service 2004-09
Our colossal debt to the genius of Bletchley
London Times, 14 June 2014, Print Edition, P28

Pearl Harbor Cover Up

...

American manufacturers made it possible for Germany to build its WAR MACHINE.



"GE was not alone among U.S. big business in having cordial, profitable arrangements with the corporations of Nazi Germany. Kodak, DuPont and Shell Oil are also known to have had business dealing with Germany. Due to a recent reparations case, the activities of General Motors and Ford are the most well known. And the cases are instructive:


"It came as an unpleasant surprise to discover that the enemy was also driving trucks manufactured by Ford and Opel — a 100 percent GM-owned subsidiary ..."

GM and Ford, through their subsidiaries, controlled 70 percent of the German automobile market when war broke out in 1939. Those companies "rapidly retooled themselves to become suppliers of war materiel to the Germany army," writes Michael Dobbs in the Washington Post.

"When American GIs invaded Europe in June 1944, they did so in jeeps, trucks and tanks manufactured by the Big Three motor companies in one of the largest crash militarization programs ever undertaken," observes Dobbs. "It came as an unpleasant surprise to discover that the enemy was also driving trucks manufactured by Ford and Opel — a 100 percent GM-owned subsidiary — and flying Opel-built warplanes."

The major U.S. automakers (including Chrysler) established multinational operations as early as the 1920s and 1930s, locating plants in Germany, eastern Europe and Japan."


UE News Feature: Nasty Nazi Business - Corporate Deals with Nazi Germany

 

[Kane]

AND ABC NEWS / NBC BROKAW 'GREATEST GENERATION ( LYING CFR SCUM )
WILL ALSO NEVER TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT WW II :

AMERICA EVEN FIREBOMBED strictly Japan civillian areas made of wood - of ZERO strategic value and simply to terrorize the people. The bombs were one firebomb inside the other.

One to ignite the house, and a second bomb inside to spread chemicals on the people inside the
home - to set Asians on fire, flames they couldn't douse. WW II, Korea, Vietnam were racist war atrocities by the United States. Just like Iran-Iraq war, Central, South America, Indonesia.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were completely unnecessary attacks, the war was already won. They used the Atomic Bombs purely to scare Russia. After 5 years of America setting up sanctions, blocking supplies and shipping lanes against Japan, they had no choice but to attack. And America knew they were coming, WW II was all about war profiteering, like WW I.


NEXT WEEK GOVMNT SHILLS ABC NEWS WILL BE RE-WRITING HISTORY

AND SAYING THE FIRE BOMBING OF JAPAN NEVER HAPPENED, EITHER

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‘Scorched and boiled and baked to death’
by Masaru Fujimoto

"At 10:30 p.m. on March 9, 1945, warning sirens sounded around Tokyo as two U.S. reconnaissance planes were spotted high in the sky. The alert was lifted as soon as the aircraft appeared to have vanished eastward into the darkness toward the Boso Peninsula in Chiba Prefecture.

But then, shortly after midnight, wave after wave — a total of 344 B-29s — suddenly roared over blacked-out downtown Tokyo. Loaded with more than 6 tons of incendiary devices each, some of the Superfortress bombers in group formations attacked from as low as 150 meters, while others dropped their loads from 2,000 meters.

After scattering tons of aluminum “chaff” to completely cloud the Japanese radars and dazzle the gunners on the ground who were sweeping the skies with their searchlights, the attackers began to drop 1 million bombs amounting to 2,000 tons of 2.7-kg incendiaries mainly on the city’s Taito, Koto and Sumida wards.

For 2 1/2 hours they kept on coming, raining death in the shape of 60-cm-long by 8-cm-diameter bombs on the cramped warrens of wooden houses, shops, small factories and workshops in that poor part of the capital and rendering more than 1 million residents homeless as well as the more than 100,000 dead."

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2...d-and-boiled-and-baked-to-death/#.Ww94xFIh2QN

WAR IS A LIE WE DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYMORE



...Disneys New 'Star Wars VII' Is War Propaganda


Disney's Star Wars Part 8 - Last Jedi ( ugh )


Never have I seen so many implausible plot gimmicks crammed into one movie.


Absolutely dreadful.
....

Television does not even involve the pretense of humanism or humanity anymore.


It is all contrived social manipulation.
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1. The News Anchors are actors.


2. Hollywood actors in Televsion and Film are Establishment or Government Propgandists.


3. The News and the Televison are in capable of cultivating a genuine feeling of emotion.


4. Everything on Cable Television or most programs are calculated, social, contrivances.


5. Televsion HD Noise, Fear, loud bangs, flashes, booming guns, bombs, screams, death scenes.


6. Even when Luke Skywalker finally appears in Last Jedi, he is overshadowed by emotion plot manipulations,too far fetched, far too many unbelievable gimmicks, endless cheapened CGI effects HD Noises, blinding flashes, over acting and pointless overdramatizing by writers, co-stars.


7. The total lack of Humanism is new media rendered Television obsolete: having no intrinsic
value in and of itself. Suffocated by falsehoods, pop psychology, cynicism, and cruelty.

New 'Star Wars' Clip Reminds Us of the First Order's Nazi Comparisons

"The split second shot in the new 'Force Awakens' TV spot looks straight out of WWII history books."

https://www.inverse.com/article/844...inds-us-of-the-first-order-s-nazi-comparisons
...

 

[Kane]

Lol what a joke. The Assad apologists are, as usual, grasping at straws.

Not to mention, of course, the usual wails of the Gaddafi apologists.

Wake up !


All wars - since the beginning of Earth civilization - are about gold and treasure.

See also - the Holy Roman Empire - or U2 "Under a Blood Red Sky" -"Gold is the reason for the Wars We Wage."


In the case of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Libya, America started all those wars for Western domination
of oil,gas pipelines and reserves.


Eight years of mass murder - thanks Obama.




Heil Hillary !

 

[Tigerace117]

Wake up !


All wars - since the beginning of Earth civilization - are about gold and treasure.

See also - the Holy Roman Empire - or U2 "Under a Blood Red Sky" -"Gold is the reason for the Wars We Wage."


In the case of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Libya, America started all those wars for Western domination
of oil,gas pipelines and reserves.


Eight years of mass murder - thanks Obama.




Heil Hillary !


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What a colossally stupid fairy tale.

Like I said before, the US gets most of it's nondomestic oil from Canada, Nigeria, and Venezuela. Claiming that its "all for the oil" like you conspiracy nuts love to is downright laughable.

The Holy Roman Empire? You mean the "state" which famously wasn't holy, wasn't Roman, and definitely wasn't an empire? What does that have to do with....well....anything?

Yeah, I reallly doubt U2 has much in the way of insight into any geopolitical situations, but your grasping at straws is absolutely hilarious.

Oh look, you are wrong......again.

Afghanistan was due to 9/11. Iraq was due to Saddam's habitual war crimes against his own people, his aggression against his neighbors, and his idiotic decision to try and make the US think he was involved in 9/11. Syria is due to another thug dictator deciding to bomb the hell out of his own people. Libya was again, due to Gaddafi-- a psychopath who used his diplomats as terrorists--- finally losing his ability to brutally crush his own people.

You conspiracy theorists are dumber than a box of rocks.

 

[zyzygy]

U2? A bunch of Irish morons who make awful music.

 

[Mr Person]

WAR IS A LIE WE DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYMORE

If I may inject a tiny bit of light-heartedness: look at your avatar, dude.







I mean, that's basically.... errr....

 

[Kane]

What a colossally stupid fairy tale.

Like I said before, the US gets most of it's nondomestic oil from Canada, Nigeria, and Venezuela. Claiming that its "all for the oil" like you conspiracy nuts love to is downright laughable.

The Holy Roman Empire? You mean the "state" which famously wasn't holy, wasn't Roman, and definitely wasn't an empire? What does that have to do with....well....anything?

Yeah, I reallly doubt U2 has much in the way of insight into any geopolitical situations, but your grasping at straws is absolutely hilarious.

Oh look, you are wrong......again.

Afghanistan was due to 9/11. Iraq was due to Saddam's habitual war crimes against his own people, his aggression against his neighbors, and his idiotic decision to try and make the US think he was involved in 9/11. Syria is due to another thug dictator deciding to bomb the hell out of his own people. Libya was again, due to Gaddafi-- a psychopath who used his diplomats as terrorists--- finally losing his ability to brutally crush his own people.

You conspiracy theorists are dumber than a box of rocks.

Empires need an excuse in order to dominate the world for geo-strategic reasons :

Sept. 11th was the one the top rogue elements in U.S.military and intelligence agencies needed desperately.

Didn't Reagan CIA Chief Bill Casey escalate the Afghan war in 1983 by training OBL while Afghanis lived in peace under Russia?

U.S.military rogue elements were thinking they needed Afghanistan for Caspian gas pipelines, - so just like Iraq, Libya, Syria oil, gas fields - both Bush and Obama invoked Sept. 11th was the one they used in speeches as the excuse for more wars ...





by Missy Comley Beattie


"It’s just that when I think of injustice, I see men and women murdered for being Black or I stare at the photographs of Syria’s youngest victims, see the eyes and blood-and-tear-stained faces, the small bodies washed ashore. If this isn’t horrendous enough, there’s that other huge: the poisoning of our planet. Radiation leaks into our oceans. Toxins invade our atmosphere, our rivers, the soil, our pipes, our food, our children. Scientists disagree on whether we’ve passed the brink, yet even if there were time, even if there were a viable strategy, a global consensus would be essential. Few people are or would be willing to make the necessary sacrifices."

"Clinton’s are on Haiti, Honduras, Libya, Syria, Iraq, anywhere U.S. Empire lurks. What a choice. It’s worse than p---- grabbing."


Missy Beattie has written for National Public Radio and Nashville Life Magazine



https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/14/its-worse-than-*****-grabbing/




Exactly how the US trained and armed ISIS

 

[Thoreau72]

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.

 

[Aristaeus]

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.

Oh, the irony. It is you who are trying to deceive with your crazy conspiracy theories.

 

[Tigerace117]

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.

Good thing you conspiracy nuts do nothing but lie your asses off.

 

[Tigerace117]

Empires need an excuse in order to dominate the world for geo-strategic reasons :

Sept. 11th was the one the top rogue elements in U.S.military and intelligence agencies needed desperately.

Didn't Reagan CIA Chief Bill Casey escalate the Afghan war in 1983 by training OBL while Afghanis lived in peace under Russia?

U.S.military rogue elements were thinking they needed Afghanistan for Caspian gas pipelines, - so just like Iraq, Libya, Syria oil, gas fields - both Bush and Obama invoked Sept. 11th was the one they used in speeches as the excuse for more wars ...





by Missy Comley Beattie


"It’s just that when I think of injustice, I see men and women murdered for being Black or I stare at the photographs of Syria’s youngest victims, see the eyes and blood-and-tear-stained faces, the small bodies washed ashore. If this isn’t horrendous enough, there’s that other huge: the poisoning of our planet. Radiation leaks into our oceans. Toxins invade our atmosphere, our rivers, the soil, our pipes, our food, our children. Scientists disagree on whether we’ve passed the brink, yet even if there were time, even if there were a viable strategy, a global consensus would be essential. Few people are or would be willing to make the necessary sacrifices."

"Clinton’s are on Haiti, Honduras, Libya, Syria, Iraq, anywhere U.S. Empire lurks. What a choice. It’s worse than p---- grabbing."


Missy Beattie has written for National Public Radio and Nashville Life Magazine



https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/14/its-worse-than-*****-grabbing/




Exactly how the US trained and armed ISIS

Uh....no. I get that you are a CTer nut, but there is literally zero evidence that the US armed or trained ISIS, especially since we have been actively bombing them for years now.

But then again, I'm not surprised someone like you---who claims the war against Imperial ****ing Japan---you know, one of the most evil, ruthless and despotic regimes in human history, one which committed numerous atrocities---was "racist"---is too delusional to face facts.

Ah yes, even more delusional fairy tales. Like I said before, we get most of our non-domestic oil from countries like Canada, Venezuela, and Nigeria. You are just humiliating yourself with your claims about "Caspian pipelines".

So in other words you've managed to find a writer even dumber than you are. Go back to whining about the US crushing Imperial Japan.