I'm rejecting your dishonest framing
I was accurate and describing it as an invading enemy Force. Are people who invade to rape and murder and steal welcome to you? Rape murder and theft are crimes of force.
"An enemy invading force" strike a VERY specific image. I asked you to stand behind your own words and make the case that backs up that imagine. How is that being "dishonest"?
Again I reject your dishonest framing.
And I make the same case in response. How am I being dishonest. I said what I had to say on the matter and provided links to back it up. What have you done to substantiate your case?
Here's the legality if you're and illegal alien you'll get deported that's it.
Here is the legality, written by someone who actually worked with it. If you enter this nation illegally you are entitled, CONSTITUTIONALLY, to due process. Where in a hearing is held and a case outlined as to your illegal presence and the alleged offender allowed to explain why that might not be the case. Like some of the very cases involved here, like having previous court documents that bar you being deported; like being an actual native born citizen in others.
This is the ACTUAL legal framework that sets the RULE OF LAW involved, and none of that is "semantics". It is THE LAW and I take that seriously and do not play games with it. I am kind of insulted you'd suggest a law enforcer, active or retired, would.
How can someone with a legal status of immigrant also be illegal?
I didn't coin the term. it is in our lexicon. So I deal with it as it exists.
Quit with the dishonest framing and I won't have to point out your dishonest games and refuse to play them.
And again... That you can't seem to address it doesn't make my framing of the case invalid, or "dishonest". I am being quite honest and my framing is based on the DOCUMENTED unfolding before us and the RULE OF LAW as it exists. There is nothing dishonest about any of that.
I pause it that people are coming here unwelcomed are invading.
I said I can see how such a large group could be seen as an "invasion". I asked how it is an "enemy" and what makes it a "force".
When they come here to commit murders and rapes and theft that makes them enemies. And when they use Force to commit these crimes which they all require that makes them a force.
I am sure your extended family has a few members of it that have been less than lawful. Most extended families have. Mine certainly had one or two. Would you have me define your whole family as a "Illegal" because of their actions.
Same with these people. There are very few of them who have a history of gang activity, rape and murder. You can't tar them all with that brush for the actions of a very few. That is a violation of Golden Rule Ethical Thinking.
Now as far as how there needs to be a declaration of war with some country that only exists in your imagination no not answering that nonsense.
I didn't say any or that. YOU tiptoed up to implying it and I asked what you based that on.
