[W:875] Trump administration 'looking at' suspending habeas corpus, Stephen Miller says

[Bonnot]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/05/09/trump-deportation-habeas-corpus-miller.html

Fascists are gonna fascist.
This man is as physically grotesque as his Nazi adjacent ideology is.

 

[Hari Seldon]

They really are nazi ****s!

 

[CLAX1911]

The body of evidence requiring deportation is that you're not here legally. The absence of your legal status is all the habeas corpus necessary.

 

[Jezcoe]

The body of evidence requiring deportation is that you're not here legally. The absence of your legal status is all the habeas corpus necessary.

The issue is that a lot of this isn’t simple deportations.

They are saying that people are part of a foreign gang and being shipped off to prison.

 

[CLAX1911]

The issue is that a lot of this isn’t simple deportations.

What else is happening besides deportation?

They are saying that people are part of a foreign gang and being shipped off to prison.

Isn't that really for the home country to decide I mean we don't have jurisdiction in El Salvador never did.

If the only way your home country will take you back is that we let their authorities apprehend you then I don't see what the issue is.

Is this smarter this crap regarding abuego Garcia

 

[Simon W. Moon]

They really are nazi ****s!

Do you really think the crew

with the white supremacist propaganda propagator and the nazi salute guy might have nazi-symps in it??

 

[Jezcoe]

What else is happening besides deportation?

Isn't that really for the home country to decide I mean we don't have jurisdiction in El Salvador never did.

If the only way your home country will take you back is that we let their authorities apprehend you then I don't see what the issue is.

Is this smarter this crap regarding abuego Garcia

We aren’t deporting them and oopsie daisy they end up in prison…. We are specifically sending them there… without accusation of a crime, without evidence of a crime, without a trial , and now Miller wants to remove Habeus Corpus.

That is something that we all used to agree was a bad thing.

 

[CLAX1911]

Do you really think the crew

with the white supremacist propaganda propagator and the nazi salute guy might have nazi-symps in it??

If he was really making a Nazi salute publicly why would he deny it?

 

[Hatuey]

Do you really think the crew

with the white supremacist propaganda propagator and the nazi salute guy might have nazi-symps in it??

 

[JMR]

What else is happening besides deportation?

Isn't that really for the home country to decide I mean we don't have jurisdiction in El Salvador never did.

If the only way your home country will take you back is that we let their authorities apprehend you then I don't see what the issue is.

Is this smarter this crap regarding abuego Garcia

The president of El Salvador has agreed to imprison (in a highly criticized inhumane prison) all deportees that the Trump administration identifies as gang members.
Can you explain the process by which Trump determines gang membership?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Isn't that really for the home country to decide I mean we don't have jurisdiction in El Salvador never did.

Then we should wait for the home country to decide they are gang members before we act on that lack of information, then, right?

Otherwise, we're just flailing about unable to determine if they are or are not gang members

 

[CLAX1911]

We aren’t deporting them and oopsie daisy they end up in prison…. We are specifically sending them there…

If that's the only way their home country will take them back I think it's rude to just dump them into the populace.

without accusation of a crime, without evidence of a crime, without a trial ,

We're not imprisoning we're turning them to their home country. The only crime we're accusing them of is entering the country illegally. The trial is determining if they're here legally.

and now Miller wants to remove Habeus Corpus.

In El Salvador I don't think he has any jurisdiction there. Deportation from our country back to the home country is not a sentence it's not a punishment for a crime it's just returning someone to their home

That is something that we all used to agree was a bad thing.

What?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

If he was really making a Nazi salute publicly why would he deny it?

I don't like guessing.​

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Just skip to the part where you tell me why.​

 

[CLAX1911]

The president of El Salvador has agreed to imprison (in a highly criticized inhumane prison) all deportees that the Trump administration identifies as gang members.

Well determined to be gang members.

Can you explain the process by which Trump determines gang membership?

He doesn't. You take account of their affiliations and tattoos. It's not rocket science.

 

[CLAX1911]

I don't like guessing.​

​

Just skip to the part where you tell me why.​

It probably wasn't the Nazi salute and if it was every politician does that so are they all secret Nazis?

I could probably find pictures of Bernie Sanders and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama doing the same gesture.

 

[Hatuey]

If he was really making a Nazi salute publicly why would he deny it?

There are Nazis who publicly deny Nazis even did the Holocaust. There are Nazis who did Nazi stuff publicly and deny it to this day.

Being a Nazi and denying the doing of Nazi stuff isn't inconceivable, is it?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Well determined to be gang members.

BUT

Isn't that really for the home country to decide[?]

 

[Jezcoe]

If that's the only way their home country will take them back I think it's rude to just dump them into the populace.

This is just buck wild.

The State can’t bring charges against them because they have not committed a crime so we send them off to jail to rot anyway.

It is just incredible that freedom loving conservatives want the State to have that power.

In El Salvador I don't think he has any jurisdiction there. Deportation from our country back to the home country is not a sentence it's not a punishment for a crime it's just returning someone to their home

They are being imprisoned at the request of the US government and paid for by the US government.

Let us not pretend that it is any different.

 

[JMR]

Well determined to be gang members.

He doesn't. You take account of their affiliations and tattoos. It's not rocket science.

He's been known to use AI doctored photos to promote his own style of rocket science in this matter.

The fact is, that among those imprisoned, many are not gang members.

 

[aociswundumho]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/05/09/trump-deportation-habeas-corpus-miller.html

Fascists are gonna fascist.

This man is as physically grotesque as his Nazi adjacent ideology is.

Correct, not a single far-left socialist state has ever upheld the right to habeas corpus.

 

[ncguy]

Well determined to be gang members.

He doesn't. You take account of their affiliations and tattoos. It's not rocket science.

its not science at all of course. its interpretation...by biased people.

 

[CLAX1911]

Then we should wait for the home country to decide they are gang members before we act on that lack of information, then, right?

No. You deport them their country figures it out. They're not citizens they're not entitled to defense attorneys provided to them by the citizens.

Otherwise, we're just flailing about unable to determine if they are or are not gang members

No we just deport them. Making sure they go to their home country is the end of our responsibility. If you don't want to be devoted this way don't join MS 13 don't overstay your Visa and don't come here illegally problem solved. If you're in this cohort you haven't been caught in judicated maybe it's time to go back home.

 

[JMR]

It probably wasn't the Nazi salute and if it was every politician does that so are they all secret Nazis?

I could probably find pictures of Bernie Sanders and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama doing the same gesture.

Probably you can't.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

It probably wasn't the Nazi salute and if it was every politician does that so are they all secret Nazis?

I could probably find pictures of Bernie Sanders and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama doing the same gesture.

More bullshit cover-up.

Stop making excuses for Nazis.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

It probably wasn't the Nazi salute

What are the odds?

and if it was every politician does that so are they all secret Nazis?

That seems demonstrably false.

It also seems like something you should know is false.

I could probably find pictures of Bernie Sanders and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama doing the same gesture.

do it

SHOW ME THEM VIDEOS​

or does your trick only work with still images of people waving?