The Right's cry for peace and unity rings hollow indeed.You're exactly right! Now the hypocrites are crying for unity and peace, where the hell were they for the past four years, besides cheering on and spreading Trump's lies and approving of his constant campaigning for his full term, having rallies, stoking division, hate and violence.
He attacked viciously anyone who didn't condone his corruption and obey his narrative, and he wet his pants when his base did the same thing, last week was a wet dream come true for the Divider In Chief. If the Trump Klan did their jobs during the first impeachment instead of turning a blind eye, there would have been no deadly insurrection on the Capitol, and there wouldn't be so many dead Americans overall. The Trump Party cultists are liars and hypocrites, now they run scared, afraid if they dare put country over traitor, the traitor will retaliate with a vengeance.
We have two huge Wins for the USA gained by the second impeachment.I mean, even with the impeachment there will be pretty well no repercussions. But the only reason I've given any legitimacy to the impeachment is that I think the President needs to be held to high standards, and inciting your rabid fans to storm Congress isn't among those standards.
But does Trump really give a flying **** about being impeached while he's heading for the door? I doubt it.
I mean, even with the impeachment there will be pretty well no repercussions. But the only reason I've given any legitimacy to the impeachment is that I think the President needs to be held to high standards, and inciting your rabid fans to storm Congress isn't among those standards.
But does Trump really give a flying **** about being impeached while he's heading for the door? I doubt it.
Well, do you?
That's a fascinating take. Basically you're telling us that Michigan fans are liable to be inciting Ohio State fans when they cheer for their team.
I just read a report that he had to be stopped from going to the house floor during debate, because he was upset that the few R's that spoke ill of him would do such a thing.
I think he cares very much.
Incompetence is not an impeachable offense. However, suborning an insurrection certainly is.Trump should have been impeached for his handling of the pandemic.
Does it limit his pardon power? Because it's not like anything real has happened at this point, yes? He's impeached again, but the Senate won't start the trial til after the 20th. So what does that do to limit his pardon power?We have two huge Wins for the USA gained by the second impeachment.
1. It limits his pardon power. A must at this point.
2. It limits his ability to be an asshole this upcoming week because he is facing conviction, and if he pisses off a only few more Republicans, he will be removed.
Both one and two are essential right now.
OK, that's funny. I don't know if it's true, but it sure is believable. He cannot handle dissent, that's why he always surrounds himself with yes men.I just read a report that he had to be stopped from going to the house floor during debate, because he was upset that the few R's that spoke ill of him would do such a thing.
I think he cares very much.
"...except in the case of impeachment" is the only limit on pardon power written into the Constitution.Does it limit his pardon power? Because it's not like anything real has happened at this point, yes? He's impeached again, but the Senate won't start the trial til after the 20th. So what does that do to limit his pardon power?
Incompetence is not an impeachable offense. However, suborning an insurrection certainly is.
Doesn't that mean he can't overturn someone else's impeachment with a pardon?"...except in the case of impeachment" is the only limit on pardon power written into the Constitution.
" The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. "
How narrow that is defined is a matter for the courts. But, it clearly does put limits on what he can do and, even if he does it, may not hold up in court.
Not sure who you're referencing with the walk-and-chew-gum thing.
When you talk about "contrition," what you're signaling to me is that your real interest is punitive. Is wanting to punish and humiliate 74+ million American citizens going to be productive? I'm wondering if what you truly want is continued division and strife. Is it?
Well, do you?
Trump didn't tell people to do that.Did they tell Ohio fans to attack the US capitol?
That's an interesting take. I think all it means is that the President cannot pardon himself out of an impeachment. But I think his pardon powers are as the were previously. But who knows, without Twitter we don't know how bad he's really stewing over there."...except in the case of impeachment" is the only limit on pardon power written into the Constitution.
" The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment. "
How narrow that is defined is a matter for the courts. But, it clearly does put limits on what he can do and, even if he does it, may not hold up in court.
Yes, how are consequences and paying for your actions relevant for everyone but the most powerful man in the country?Well, do you?
Seditious acts of domestic terrorism are not just "a few rowdies showed up".Trump didn't tell people to do that.
Here's something to consider, the FBI is investigating whether the attack was planned - https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-riot-investigation/index.html - If the riot was planned then it wasn't Trump that "incited" it and the Democrats just impeached the guy based on a lie (frankly, not much different than the last impeachment).
Like I said in another thread, this incident was most likely the result of a good time gone bad when a few rowdies showed up.
You’re supporting the very thing you denounce. The usurpation of the rule of law by those who would steal elections and power through tens of millions of dollars pumped in by few Marist billionaires to finance division, hate, and violent mobs that killed 25 people in 2020s daily riots.
Like I said in another thread, this incident was most likely the result of a good time gone bad when a few rowdies showed up.
Great! Then was was Trump impeached for "inciting" them a mere hour beforehand?People had been given inside intel the day before from members of Congress.
People had radios and were using them to coordinate movement inside the building.
Panic buttons were torn out of the wall in Ayanna Pressley's office.
It's impossible for these things to be spur of the moment.
I disagree. Four years of great leadership isn't erased by the leftwing media's phony narrative that Trump caused a riot. 75 million people who voted for Trump didn't change their minds and won't be dismissed.I think it's sinking in that his humiliation is complete and that whatever his "legacy" was has probably been destroyed.
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