[W:531]What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

[weaver2]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

No. I want you to condemn and belittle him as you condemn and belittle women by calling them sluts. I want you to shame men as you want to shame women.

Interesting isn't it; the same men that think slut shaming has moral value even if the women aren't sexually promiscuous never see men as sexually inappropriate.

 

[danielpalos]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

I personally hate the word "slut" with a passion but I'm using it here given everyone will know what I'm talking about.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut

A recurring theme for people on the right who criticize women's sexual behaviors is that they are "slut shaming". Now according to everything I've read a "slut" or "slutty behavior" involves sexual promiscuity. Though it is almost always used to refer to women it can (and has) been used regarding men as well.


My point is this:


Shouldn't sexual promiscuity be something we should treat as "shameful"? What possible redeeming and positive attribute does it have? No matter your views on abortion, or premarital or extramarital sexual morality shouldn't sexual promiscuity be something that everyone on every side of the belief spectrum rightfully condemns?


What could possibly be wrong about shaming people who engage in such behavior?​

Watching a lot of porn helps me get over women being promiscuous. I prefer to give guys who are full of fallacy a more difficult time.

 

[Irredentist]

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You consider altering general sexual behavior in society to be "wishful thinking".

Of course it's wishful thinking. Humans have a biological drive to pursue sex, and given the absence of negative physical consequences, they will do so. Sometimes even with consequences. People had plenty of extramarital sex in the middle ages, and they still do today. Expecting them not to is silly. Alternatively, providing an antidote to the consequences is far more realistic and effective.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Why should anyones sexual activities be anyones business except thier own?

Dont worry about what happens in other peoples bedrooms....if its not hurting you or anyone else, leave them alone.

Because sexual impurity is a scourge on society.

 

[bearpoker]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

I'm not condemning and belittling women. As I made it clear in the OP (that you obviously didn't bother reading other than the title) I hate the term "slut".

Good that you hate the term. Slut shaming does condemn and belittle women. It's not justified by any theoretical social benefit. What is especially galling is that men are not condemned in the same manner. Most of the time, their promiscuity is actually admired while women are condemned. If you want to eliminate promiscuity, you have to address both parties. Consider than you never even mentioned male behavior until someone mentioned Trump.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Of course it's wishful thinking. Humans have a biological drive to pursue sex, and given the absence of negative physical consequences, they will do so. Sometimes even with consequences. People had plenty of extramarital sex in the middle ages, and they still do today. Expecting them not to is silly. Alternatively, providing an antidote to the consequences is far more realistic and effective.

Tobacco is an immensely addictive substance yet our government has had a great deal of success in discouraging its use. So obviously it is doable.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

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Congratulations on trolling the thread....Slut shaming is so Victorian it is time to dispel the myth of people who have sex...

Victorian England was a wonderful time and place to be alive. The Height of the British empire brought advanced education and philosophy to the world, what was wrong with that?

 

[danielpalos]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Yet despite that we still have in this country massive numbers of unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases.

Why does the right wing have a problem with both an ounce of prevention and a pound of cure?

 

[Irredentist]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Tobacco is an immensely addictive substance yet our government has had a great deal of success in discouraging its use. So obviously it is doable.

Because tobacco causes cancer...

Sex, to my knowledge, does not cause cancer in and of itself.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Good that you hate the term. Slut shaming does condemn and belittle women. It's not justified by any theoretical social benefit. What is especially galling is that men are not condemned in the same manner. Most of the time, their promiscuity is actually admired while women are condemned. If you want to eliminate promiscuity, you have to address both parties. Consider than you never even mentioned male behavior until someone mentioned Trump.

Men who have sex with women they’re not married to are degenerates.

Yes men who are degenerates are condemned. What world are you living in?

You libs just make Sh!t up all the time. And plus this isn’t even an argument. The fact some men are degenerates is not an argument that women should be sluts

 

[weaver2]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

No. I want you to condemn and belittle him as you condemn and belittle women by calling them sluts. I want you to shame men as you want to shame women.

You can't shame men as you would women. The words for sexually promiscuous males are not shameful.

Women are sluts, whores, tramps, bitches. Men are playboys, studs, ladies men, lover boys

Guess who made up the names?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Because tobacco causes cancer...

Sex, to my knowledge, does not cause cancer in and of itself.

Sex outside of the marital bonds only causes STDs and broken homes and generations of future criminals

 

[danielpalos]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

WOW. Did this female happen to lay with a hell of a lot men?

I prefer to believe in equality and equal work for equal pay.

go ahead chics, go for it.

 

[Moonglow]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Victorian England was a wonderful time and place to be alive. The Height of the British empire brought advanced education and philosophy to the world, what was wrong with that?

Victorian era was one a strict silence on issues of sex why a father could not speak of panties.

 

[danielpalos]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Oh my my! Did I strike a nerve? Does my anger at the double standard that has long abused women shock you? Do you think I should just get over your devotion to misogyny?

Watching a lot of porn seems to be helpful, for me. I love that women are so, ergonomic.

 

[Michael Johnson]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Stop talking about that slutty president of ours...

LOL I'm talking about your Libs.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

My parents used to routinely and very vocally condemn sexually promiscuous men.

 

[Michael Johnson]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Sex outside of the marital bonds only causes STDs and broken homes and generations of future criminals

Amen.

 

[AmNat]

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Note, almost half a dozen responses and no one is bothering to even attempt to explain why sexual promiscuity should not be condemned.

That’s because you’re not dealing with rational people.

 

[Michael Johnson]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

I'll bite. What's the logical reason for slut shaming someone? And please avoid emotional rhetoric like "degrading behavior" and "immorality".

Degrading behavior and immorality are not emotional concepts. They are very damaging to society. Take your Lib controlled states for example! LOL!

 

[btthegreat]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Note, almost half a dozen responses and no one is bothering to even attempt to explain why sexual promiscuity should not be condemned.

as an evolutionary tactic to spread genetically diverse DNA far and wide in a species with as deep tribal and family loyalty as our ancestors, it was a positive blessing. The idea is that sluts could provide the best of two worlds as males unknowingly protected and fed offspring of other males with the same ferocity as their own. Slutting definitely helped in the being fruitful and multiply department As we began to live in larger cities, where over population was more of a problem, what had been a blessing turned into a curse. The chances of coitus between too close a male and female was reduced due to increased contact with a lot more males in a given day or lifetime, but the chances of spreading STDs through female promiscuity increased with volume of diverse partners.
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Now its a virtual nothing burger. We have plenty of people all over the planet, but SDTs less easily spread with cheap disposable condums and more easily treatable with modern drugs. There is no point in either 'slutting' or 'slut shaming' that I can see from an evolutionary or biological purpose.

I will add the soap operas have declined in popularity since slut shaming has lost its social power so if you are a former All MY CHILDREN, or Guiding Light fan, you may want to engage in some pro slut shaming advocacy like the author of the OP, before General Hospital dies too.

 

[Irredentist]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Victorian England was a wonderful time and place to be alive. The Height of the British empire brought advanced education and philosophy to the world, what was wrong with that?

Sure, unless you're dying in a coal mine...

 

[Irredentist]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Sex outside of the marital bonds only causes STDs and broken homes and generations of future criminals

All those things can happen with marital sex too. Or you could just use a condom

 

[Dayton3]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

Sure, unless you're dying in a coal mine...

That's a choice people make. The majority of coal miners didn't die in coal mines anyway.

 

[charliebrown]

Re: What Is Wrong with "slut shaming"?

I personally hate the word "slut" with a passion but I'm using it here given everyone will know what I'm talking about.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut

A recurring theme for people on the right who criticize women's sexual behaviors is that they are "slut shaming". Now according to everything I've read a "slut" or "slutty behavior" involves sexual promiscuity. Though it is almost always used to refer to women it can (and has) been used regarding men as well.


My point is this:


Shouldn't sexual promiscuity be something we should treat as "shameful"? What possible redeeming and positive attribute does it have? No matter your views on abortion, or premarital or extramarital sexual morality shouldn't sexual promiscuity be something that everyone on every side of the belief spectrum rightfully condemns?


What could possibly be wrong about shaming people who engage in such behavior?​

Because we live in a free country and we as individuals are free to do as we choose.