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(W#4255)The trial of Kyle Rittenhouse for the intentional first degree homicide of 2, injuring of 1

Cordelier said:
He also said that from his perspective, Rittenhouse was an active shooter.

It's like I said at the beginning... the incident with Rosenbaum can be seen either way (even if the fatal shot was to his back). But it's Rittenhouse's actions after shooting Rosenbaum that show his guilt. If he wanted to turn himself into the police, and had actually acted in self defense, why wasn't he walking with his hands in the air then? Why run away from the Rosenbaum shooting?

Seems to me that the only valid assumption available to Huber and Grosskreutz at that point was that Rittenhouse was an active shooter. At that point - after Rosenbaum was gunned down - for any bystanders in the area. it's either fight or flight.
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He wasn't able to express any reasonable reason why he thought that.
 
GummyVitamins said:
Grosskreutz admitted under oath that he didn't know Rittenhouse shot someone or why.


Rittenhouse was being attacked as all the prosecution's witnesses have stated.


Same standard. If you're an aggressor and a risk to someone's safety they can shoot you.
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Rittenhouse was being attacked because he just shot a guy and was running from the scene. Seems like an indicator of guilt to me.... I don't care whether you shot someone or not... if a cop car pulls up and you run away, I can guarantee they WILL chase you.
 
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Lutherf said:
There was testimony and graphic evidence that Grosskreutz was:
1. Pursuing Rittenhouse
2. Had at least reached for his personal firearm while "30 feet or more" from Rittenhouse
3. Engaged Rittenhouse while Rittenhouse was being attacked by two other people
4. Briefly stopped his pursuit of Rittenhouse and THEN pulled his firearm
5. Pointed the firearm at Rittenhouse.

In that series of events it was Grosskreutz that was pursuing Rittenhouse while Rittenhouse was fleeing the scene. It's rather difficult to make a valid claim of self defense when you are the one acting as aggressor and actively engaging someone already being attacked.
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Good guy with a gun, pursuing an active shooter. That's what you're supposed to do, isn't it?
 
Cordelier said:
Rittenhouse was being attacked because he just shot a guy and was running from the scene.
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Rittenhouse was being attacked because he was outnumbered by a lot of muppets who wanted to harm him.

Cordelier said:
Seems like an indicator of guilt to me....
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Seems like an indicator that Rittenhouse was afraid of the violent mob threatening him, attacking him, and shooting off guns to me...

Cordelier said:
I don't care whether you shot someone or not... if a cop car pulls up and you run away, I can guarantee they WILL chase you.
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Sure you do.
 
GummyVitamins said:
Rittenhouse was being attacked because he was outnumbered by a lot of muppets who wanted to harm him.


Seems like an indicator that Rittenhouse was afraid of the violent mob threatening him, attacking him, and shooting off guns to me...


Sure you do.
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Obviously not... he had time to phone his buddy.
 
dncc said:
I'm predicting a hung jury. After watching the video evidence closely, I don't think they can get a murder conviction.

I think the families of the fallen can (if they haven't already) get a hefty settlement from the city of Kenosha; they essentially deputized KR.
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From some arguments theres literally people trying to say Kyle is part of the militia because obscure 1790 law and stretchy interpretation says everyone of a certain age is automatically a militia. Crazy stuff
 
Cordelier said:
Oh okay... didn't realize this was a thread for people with like-minded views. :rolleyes:
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It's for people who don't need information publically available for a year spoon fed to them.
 
GummyVitamins said:
This wasn't a trick question. The other gun shots you hear in the videos are from the angry mob chasing him.
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Yeah, I know people fired into the air right around the time of the Rosenbaum incident. And if this trial were just about Rosenbaum, I'd have to concede - whatever my belief - that the evidence wasn't sufficient to convict Rittenhouse of murder.

It's his actions afterwards that are indicative of guilt for me.
 
Cordelier said:
Rittenhouse was being attacked because he just shot a guy and was running from the scene. Seems like an indicator of guilt to me.... I don't care whether you shot someone or not... if a cop car pulls up and you run away, I can guarantee they WILL chase you.
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Are you suggesting that Grosskreutz, Huber, "Jump Kick Man" or any of the other people pursuing Rittenhouse were police or some other form of law enforcement? Has that been testified to or have any of them been called as a witness?
 
ASHES said:
It's for people who don't need information publically available for a year spoon fed to them.
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*LOL* You mean people who don't have the time to devote every waking hour of their life to this trial can't express an opinion or ask legitimate questions?
 
MaryP said:
We want him to pay for being in the wrong by being there at all. But apparently it's only wrong, not illegal.
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Only him, though?

The rioters, the arsonists, the attackers?

You don't want them to pay because they were where rioters, arsonists, and attackers belong?
 
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