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[W: 40] You really have to admit it

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You say that but you cant seem to give even one example.

Okay, Tues night at the SOTU he lied about crime being rampant in El Paso before the wall went up. The Mayor of El Paso said that was a lie and in fact today a letter was sent to Trump to admit he was wrong and apologize
 
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He is 100% more honest than Obama.

They must have seen their premiums and deductibles go way down and gotten to keep their doctors.

No one else I know did.
 
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Trump loves Vets and he's Pro God??? That's when you know the OP is just trolling and should be ignored.
 
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They must have seen their premiums and deductibles go way down and gotten to keep their doctors.

No one else I know did.

And more coverage. Love it when conservatives make our case for us. I bet they don't even know it for some very strange reason. Very strange reason. LMAO!
 
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Trump loves Vets and he's Pro God??? That's when you know the OP is just trolling and should be ignored.

Never ignore free entertainment when they supply it to you. I love trolling trolls. I get to walk away knowing Im smart and they get to walk away knowing they are stupid. Its a complete win win! LMAO!
 
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Stupid people loved his speech. Smart people saw thru his lies.

Yes, that must be the case, especially for the vast majority of independents. Everyone who disagrees with your terrible socialist and identitarian ideas must be stupid! :roll:

Never ignore free entertainment when they supply it to you. I love trolling trolls. I get to walk away knowing Im smart and they get to walk away knowing they are stupid. Its a complete win win! LMAO!

That makes YOU a troll, but you must already know that, because you SOOOO smart, right?
 
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Yes, that must be the case, especially for the vast majority of independents. Everyone who disagrees with your terrible socialist and identitarian ideas must be stupid! :roll:

Well, since they can't prove those ideas are wrong...……..and then refuse to understand what they can't disprove...……..there's only 1 conclusion to draw. Conservatives prove they can't think all by themselves. LMAO!
 
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After a day or so to ponder it, President Trump gave one great SOTU speech. He is pro USA. He is pro Life. He is pro vet. He is pro trade. He is pro Israel. He is pro God. What more could you want in a president?

Someone who gets something constructive done for his voter base while having a consensus in the US House & Senate. Tax cuts? Super. Prison reform? Are you kidding me? Do something for the people who voted for you besides making speeches!
 
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After a day or so to ponder it, President Trump gave one great SOTU speech. He is pro USA. He is pro Life. He is pro vet. He is pro trade. He is pro Israel. He is pro God. What more could you want in a president?

The problem is that he is "more" pro lies and pro scams that everything he said has to be considered a lie and a scam.

It sounded good but words are free to use. Anyone can say the same things in order to "look good" but doing what one says requires action, intelligence and ability to compromise and this president lacks all of those. I give his speech a "B" rating. Nonetheless, he has shown that as far as action is concerned, he earns an "F" most of the time.

I am very happy for you that you believe his words. You will be happy until he fails but in the meantime you can enjoy the fake feeling of happiness.
 
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After a day or so to ponder it, President Trump gave one great SOTU speech. He is pro USA. He is pro Life. He is pro vet. He is pro trade. He is pro Israel. He is pro God. What more could you want in a president?

He is a great conman. The only thing 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs cares about is 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs. Pro God? LOL! I'm pro chocolate and beer.
 
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After a day or so to ponder it, President Trump gave one great SOTU speech. He is pro USA. He is pro Life. He is pro vet. He is pro trade. He is pro Israel. He is pro God. What more could you want in a president?

:bs

If ever there was an example of the power of ideology...this OP is it.

Trump gave a LONG speech....a completely substance-free speech....a disingenuous speech....and an offensively dishonest speech.

He is pro-Russia and anti-American-Values.

He feigns (with words only) support for Vets, while disrespecting them every day, and in almost every tangible way possible.

He is anti-trade and has done immeasurable damage to America's interests with his trade wars.

He is more pro-Israel than pro-American. That's a problem, because Israel under Bibi has not always behaved as an ally.

He is NOT 'pro-God". He's a non-believer who is clearly just pro-Evangelical vote, and he understands that a large percentage of that faction of the electorate is motivated entirely by religious/racial/cultural issues that are divisive and disrespectful of religous and racial minorities in our society. Trump knows this, and agrees with these people....and he knows that they are emotional (and not truly "Christian values" based ) voters.

And most intelligent people understand all of the above.
 
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If Obama had been as "incompetent" as you claim Trump is, Trump would never have been a player and we'd be toasting Hilary's reign over "Obama's third term".

Obama would easily have defeated Trump for a third term. Hillary was just a bad candidate.
 
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After a day or so to ponder it, President Trump gave one great SOTU speech. He is pro USA. He is pro Life. He is pro vet. He is pro trade. He is pro Israel. He is pro God. What more could you want in a president?

But did crime really drop in El Paso after they put up a wall?

The answer is NO.

Trump is a liar. But you're OK with it. I'm not. Most of us are not. We're sick of it.

People like you who ignore government lies are the problem with democracy. You can't have a functioning democracy if the government can lie with impunity.

Trump lied and you should be angry not praising him. It's just sad.
 
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After a day or so to ponder it, President Trump gave one great SOTU speech. He is pro USA. He is pro Life. He is pro vet. He is pro trade. He is pro Israel. He is pro God. What more could you want in a president?

I want a New Deal POTUS (the color of that POTUS or deal is not important - since I'm not partial to orange, even green would be OK). That New Deal means (the federal government) providing free medical care of top quality, free college and a guaranteed (federal?) job that pays very well, offers loads of paid leave and a secure retirement pension (at age 55?). Thus most folks could graduate from college (by age 25), work for 30 years (in a government funded "good" job) and then retire for about as many years as they worked. For those few who are not quite up to becoming college graduates (even in the New Deal diploma mills) they can be given "safety net" help to do other (privately funded, non-profit) work for 30 years and then also receive a generous public retirement pension. The financial details may be a bit murky, but morally that is the America which everyone deserves - look it up.
 
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Then that let's me know pre-K was just a little too difficult for you! LMAO!
Obama is not honest enough to release his records, what is he hiding.
 
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But did crime really drop in El Paso after they put up a wall?

The answer is NO.

Trump is a liar. But you're OK with it. I'm not. Most of us are not. We're sick of it.

People like you who ignore government lies are the problem with democracy. You can't have a functioning democracy if the government can lie with impunity.

Trump lied and you should be angry not praising him. It's just sad.

It did in NOGALES.
 
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Then that let's me know pre-K was just a little too difficult for you! LMAO!

Actually I didnt even go to kindergarten, I went directly into the first grade.
 
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Trump loves Vets and he's Pro God??? That's when you know the OP is just trolling and should be ignored.

As a vet and a Christian I find your post snotty.
 
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Someone who gets something constructive done for his voter base while having a consensus in the US House & Senate. Tax cuts? Super. Prison reform? Are you kidding me? Do something for the people who voted for you besides making speeches!

How about tax cuts and jobs??????
 
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Stupid people loved his speech. Smart people saw thru his lies.

Actually, most people polled as liking his speech. Overall, it was well received.
 
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How about tax cuts and jobs??????

1. I mentioned tax cuts. His voter base didn't support him for tax cuts.

2. Job creation is great, but without securing the border, putting an end to wage stagnation/deflation, its only going to be short term. Trump has increased H-1b visas for financial migrants to take tech jobs, while much of the actual job creation for Americans has consisted of low wage, or part time work, the same as under Obama.

Where's the infrastructure revolution to modernize American cities?
Where's the border wall?
Where's the promise to put America first? (Hint: $38 billion for Israel while portions of the USA experience homeless crises is not putting America First)
 
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As a vet and a Christian I find your post snotty.

As a vet and a Christian I find Donald Trump an awful person and un-Christian. And his phoney cult like followers just as bad as he is.

A Christian who said he's never asked God for forgiveness? That's the biggest no-no in Christianity. And you support and defend Trump? You're just as bad as he is.
 
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