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But....but.....but.....RELIGIOUS LEADERS. And yes, absolutely NOT the person after whom the religion was named.
And after he slaughtered all the men and boys of the Banu Quraiza he enslaved the women and children. Then he conquered the rest of the peninsula. Then he attacked the Byzantines. And the best you can do is trivialize the slaughter. That's the guy Muslims are told to emulate. Give your head a shake.
If you want to tell me what I'm getting wrong about Islam, I'll respond. Otherwise, enjoy the last word (and don't forget to through in an "I accept your surrender").
Because it’s not a democracy, and you know it. Also, this thread isn’t about a Pakistan so take your hateful Muslim bashing elsewhere.How is Pakistan not a democracy? The president ran on maintaining Pakistan's 6th century blasphemy laws, and the people voted for him. What am I missing?
Because it’s not a democracy, and you know it. Also, this thread isn’t about a Pakistan so take your hateful Muslim bashing elsewhere.
I honestly can’t stand talking to you because your hatred is so palpable. The hate you have for Islam is very pronounced in any conversation I see you trying to have. And it is really ironic because you think you’re so much better than the average Muslim simply because you’re not a Muslim, and yet you are one of the most hateful people on this message board. You know that I am very involved with the Muslim community where I live. Muslims don’t sit around and talk about non Muslims the way you talk about Muslims. You have more hate in your heart then any Muslim I personally know.I don't hate Muslims as a whole. I hate Islam.
I honestly can’t stand talking to you because your hatred is so palpable. The hate you have for Islam is very pronounced in any conversation I see you trying to have.
And it is really ironic because you think you’re so much better than the average Muslim simply because you’re not a Muslim,
and yet you are one of the most hateful people on this message board. You know that I am very involved with the Muslim community where I live. Muslims don’t sit around and talk about non Muslims the way you talk about Muslims. You have more hate in your heart then any Muslim I personally know.
There is no point in arguing with your black heart. I bother nobody with my religion, and I am emotionally fulfilled, my heart is not heavy or angry. You can’t say that.No secret there. >>>> I...hate...Islam because it first demands hatred towards, and eventually war upon the non-Muslim world. Have you read the Qur'an? I'll bet you haven't.
Nope. I think I'm better than any Muslim who, for example, supported executing Asia Bibi for saying, "At least my Jesus died for me. What did your Mohamed ever do for you". Have you ever addressed that? Think about the fact that she spent nearly 10 years on death row for simply saying that. And the only reason she got into an argument in the first place was because her Muslim neighbors accused her of defiling their water by taking a drink. Really. Think about it.
And there's that lie again. I don't talk about Muslims. I talk about Islam. You have yet to try to debate me about what Islam teaches for one of two reasons: 1) You don't know enough about your own religion to mount a defense, or 2) You do know about it and you're smart enough not to get involved.
The Qur'an ends (chronologically) with surah 9, and one of the last verses in it describes Islam's final direction: 9:111 - "Allah has bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain".
Please tell me what is not to hate about that.
There is no point in arguing with your black heart. I bother nobody with my religion, and I am emotionally fulfilled, my heart is not heavy or angry. You can’t say that.
I have read the Quran. I have done more than read it. I have studied with scholars in the settings of halaqa.So, that's a no. You have not read the Qur'an. You have no idea what you're defending.
So, that's a no. You have not read the Qur'an. You have no idea what you're defending.
I have read the Quran. I have done more than read it. I have studied with scholars in the settings of halaqa.
Next you will tell me I don’t follow the Quaran.
I know you, but you don’t know me or my faith.
I have not read the holy books of any religion other than the Bible, but I know that The Sermon on the Mount teaches Christians not to hate.
This conversation is a waste of time. The Bible also says the same. Again, take your hate to the appropriate thread.Ok, I believe you have read it.
In that case you must agree with your god that "the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him (8:55)".
Please tell me how that is not hate speech by every definition of the word.
This conversation is a waste of time. The Bible also says the same.
Again, take your hate to the appropriate thread.
And I know that the Qur'an teaches Muslims to hate.
Do we have an appropriate thread for hate? Maybe in the BasementThis conversation is a waste of time. The Bible also says the same. Again, take your hate to the appropriate thread.
Do we have an appropriate thread for hate? Maybe in the BasementI will avoid it if I can.
The thread title isn’t about me. Again, you have more hate living in your heart than me.Whataboutism doesn't diminish the hatred and calls-to-arms in the Qur'an.
Perhaps you didn't notice the word "Islamists" in the thread title.
They’re basically saying “If you treat Muslims like human beings, then France will fall apart!”
It’s Islamophobia and xenophobia of the highest degree.
The French have no mystique of the "Melting Pot" that is/was the US ideal. The French are a monolithic culture, so telling a French person that they are "xenophobic"would likely garner the response "But of course."
That being said, there has been a build up of Muslim population in France because the French have tried the multi-cultural path, and the behavior of a sizeable segment of the Muslim migrants have taught the French to return to their xenophobic roots. France's first exposure to the Islamic Religion was an invading force in the 8th century, and the French can carry a grudge with the best of them.
The thread title isn’t about me. Again, you have more hate living in your heart than me.
I would have to think about this long and hard. (Kudos to you for posting something which makes me want to think.) The French language is sacrosanct within France (although, as we all know there are a multitude of variants on Parisian French throughout the world). I am not so sure that French culture is "monolithic", however. One must remember that France was a major colonial power, along with England, as Spanish and Portuguese influence waned in the New World. Not only did France influence its colonies, but its colonies influenced France. I think that the French colonies had a great influence on French culture.
You think a Muslim has to murder to go heaven? You think that’s what Islam teaches? That’s a lie.Am I quoting the Qur'an wrong?
Have I told even one lie about it?
Did a Muslim nation condemn Asia Bibi to death or not?
Does verse 9:111 (and others) not say that admittance to heaven is based on a Muslims willingness to shed blood?
Please, just tell me ONE thing I got wrong.
You think a Muslim has to murder to go heaven? You think that’s what Islam teaches? That’s a lie.
Do you believe those Christians bombing abortion clinics embody American values more than most American Muslims do?America is an inherently Christian nation.
Islam is a foreign ideology. False equivelance dismissed
At whom was this directed?Do you believe those Christians bombing abortion clinics embody American values more than most American Muslims do?
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