[W:#356]Students lose access to books amid ‘state-sponsored purging of ideas’

[Tigerace117]

In other words, you can't prove it. Got it.

In other words, someone who can’t even face the fact that the Holocaust happened is obviously not able to face the facts about systematic racism.

 

[Tiny]

In other words, someone who can’t even face the fact that the Holocaust happened is obviously not able to face the facts about systematic racism.

Before you can claim "facts about systemic racism", first you have to prove that systemic racism exists. But you can't, which is fine. You just blame your inability to do so on me being a big bad holocaust denier.

 

[Tigerace117]

Before you can claim "facts about systemic racism", first you have to prove that systemic racism exists. But you can't, which is fine. You just blame your inability to do so on me being a big bad holocaust denier.

Oh, nobody thinks you Holocaust deniers are “big and bad”. “Pathetic” is a much more accurate description

You refusing to believe the facts can’t change them bud.

 

[Tiny]

Oh, nobody thinks you Holocaust deniers are “big and bad”. “Pathetic” is a much more accurate description

You refusing to believe the facts can’t change them bud.

*Yawn*

Still waiting for that proof. Wake me up when you have it.

 

[Tigerace117]

*Yawn*

Still waiting for that proof. Wake me up when you have it.

Gee bud, as previously stated you can’t even bear to face the fact that the Holocaust happened. Therefore, it’s quite clear that ANY amount of evidence will simply be ignored.

 

[Tiny]

Gee bud, as previously stated you can’t even bear to face the fact that the Holocaust happened. Therefore, it’s quite clear that ANY amount of evidence will simply be ignored.

How about this? I promise you I will not ignore evidence. There. Does this soothe your mind? Will you finally present proof?

 

[Ren]

Gee, pal, you really need to start living in the real world instead of clinging to your fantasies about “Marxists” and trying to impose your religion on everyone else

Gosh, pal, is there a question in there? lol

So you're babbling something about my having fantasies about Marxists. What fantasies do you think I have about Marxists?

Now, do I believe that there are American citizens who embrace Marxism? The answer is a resounding yes! I definitely believe that. Would you like an example? Here is Patrisse Cullors, Co-Founder of BLM:



Is Patrisse Cullors being a Marxist fantasy or is it reality? What do you think?

 

[Tigerace117]

How about this? I promise you I will not ignore evidence. There. Does this soothe your mind? Will you finally present proof?

How about you admit the fact that the Holocaust happened— that it was not “fabricated”, or “exaggerated”, or “justified” in any way, shape or form and that the Nazis always fully intended to carry out their mass murder program.

Until you do that, you have no credibility.

 

[Tigerace117]

Gosh, pal, is there a question in there? lol

So you're babbling something about my having fantasies about Marxists. What fantasies do you think I have about Marxists?

Now, do I believe that there are American citizens who embrace Marxism? The answer is a resounding yes! I definitely believe that. Would you like an example? Here is Patrisse Cullors, Co-Founder of BLM:



Is Patrisse Cullors being a Marxist fantasy or reality? What do you think?

Gosh pal, you’re wetting yourself about the Reds you fantasize are hiding under your bed AGAIN? Too damn comical

I think you are so horrified anyone would oppose cops committing extrajudicial murder that the very thought of BLM makes you tremble and sob and hysterically wail about “commies”. Duh

 

[Pound4abrown]

right. because we need to sexualize kids as early as possible and teach them to hate the USA -parents be damned

Boy, that is a ****ing hysterical reaction to his statement.
But what you do with your children is your business, I don't ****ing need your help with mine.

 

[Tiny]

How about you admit the fact that the Holocaust happened— that it was not “fabricated”, or “exaggerated”, or “justified” in any way, shape or form and that the Nazis always fully intended to carry out their mass murder program.

Until you do that, you have no credibility.

I could care less whether you think I have credibility. I will point out though that holocaust is not the topic of this thread.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Good move. These "books" are nothing but radical left propaganda.
We need to return to the teaching standards of the mid 2000s and before.
I'm fine with doing whatever is legal to remove all of these leftists from influence in our media, publishing, and academia.

It is cute how you put quotes around the word books.
Maybe if you read more of them, you'd understand why that is ****ing stupid to do.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Tearfully sobbing about kids “learning to hate the US” and “being sexualized” because they are taught actual history instead of whitewashed garbage and aren’t taught that the blatant lie that LGBT people are “sinners” or doing something wrong horrifies conservatives.

Which is another reason you lot hate higher education; it enables kids to learn about the real world and their parents can’t keep them locked in an ideological cage.

And, this is the funniest (saddest) part of this trend, if the kids the right is trying to vehemently to protect have access to the internet that is unchecked by their parents (ie. No Parental locks, ect), then it doesn't matter what these kids can and cannot get in the school, they will find it, if they really want it.

 

[Tiny]

Boy, that is a ****ing hysterical reaction to his statement.
But what you do with your children is your business, I don't ****ing need your help with mine.

Protecting children is not someone trying to tell you how to raise your children.

For example, you can't abuse your children and tell people who try to intervene that you don't need "help" with your kids.

 

[Moon]

Why assume facts not in evidence? This gonna be your shtick now? Schools dont need backseat drivers trying to deny other kids from reading good books.

You’re right, they don’t. I support what the parents are trying to do, do you consider them to be “backseat drivers” as well?

 

[Tigerace117]

I could care less whether you think I have credibility. I will point out though that holocaust is not the topic of this thread.

As previously stated, someone who can’t even acknowledge the fact that the Holocaust happened obviously is incapable of facing the real world.

 

[Ren]

Gosh pal, you’re wetting yourself about the Reds you fantasize are hiding under your bed AGAIN? Too damn comical

I think you are so horrified anyone would oppose cops committing extrajudicial murder that the very thought of BLM makes you tremble and sob and hysterically wail about “commies”. Duh

I see. So you're trying to tell me that US citizens who are Marxists don't have plans to install Marxism in the US. Is that correct?

 

[Tigerace117]

I see. So you're trying to tell me that Marxists in this country don't have plans to install Marxism in this country. Is that correct?

There is no meaningful “Marxist” group in this country and hasn’t been.....ever, really. Arguing that there’s a “plot to install Marxism” is laughable.

 

[Tiny]

It is cute how you put quotes around the word books.
Maybe if you read more of them, you'd understand why that is ****ing stupid to do.

Maybe he has read them, and he determined that they really were shit.

And, this is the funniest (saddest) part of this trend, if the kids the right is trying to vehemently to protect have access to the internet that is unchecked by their parents (ie. No Parental locks, ect), then it doesn't matter what these kids can and cannot get in the school, they will find it, if they really want it.

What does that mean? Educators might as well let children read whatever they want at school because they can access inappropriate content at home online anyway?

 

[Ren]

There is no meaningful “Marxist” group in this country and hasn’t been.....ever, really. Arguing that there’s a “plot to install Marxism” is laughable.

From your precious Wikipedia:

Communist Party USA - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Talk about these guys.

 

[Tigerace117]

From your precious Wikipedia:

Communist Party USA - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Talk about these guys.

What about them? They’ve had no power or influence for pretty much their entire history. Arguing they are or were any sort of threat is comical.

 

[anatta]

Fear! Fear! Fear!

whatever. im not going to debate Gender ID for kids and CRT in the classroom

 

[j brown's body]

Before you can claim "facts about systemic racism", first you have to prove that systemic racism exists. But you can't, which is fine. You just blame your inability to do so on me being a big bad holocaust denier.

Passing laws to preventing the teaching if racism because it might hurt white kids feelings is a pretty good example of systemic racism.

 

[anatta]

Boy, that is a ****ing hysterical reaction to his statement.
But what you do with your children is your business, I don't ****ing need your help with mine.

likewise, but we are talking about the classroom, where kids are indoctrinated with Gender ID and CRT is worked into subject mattr

 

[Grand Mal]

Republican state repression is kicking into high gear.

"The start of the 2022-2023 school year will usher in a new era of education in some parts of America — one in which school librarians have less freedom to choose books and schoolchildren less ability to read books they find intriguing, experts say.

In the past two years, six states have passed laws that mandate parental involvement in reviewing books, making it easier for parents to remove books or restrict the texts available at school, according to a tally kept by nonprofit EveryLibrary. Five states are considering similar legislation. Typical of these is an Arizona bill, signed by Gov. Doug Ducey (R) in April, that requires districts to send parents who ask lists of the books their children check out, as well as to publish the titles of all library materials bought after Jan. 1. Policies are proliferating at the district level, too: One Nebraska system will require that parents sign permission slips for library books. A Texas system will divide its library into “juvenile,” “young adult” and “adult” sections, with parents choosing the “level” their child can access.

“This is a state-sponsored purging of ideas and identities that has no precedent in the United States of America,” said John Chrastka, EveryLibrary’s executive director. “We’re witnessing the silencing of stories and the suppressing of information [that will make] the next generation less able to function in society.”"

Ironically, this 18 year old has most informed and mature insight into the issue:

"...Lily Van Bergen, 18, who graduated from the Bedford system this spring, is worried. She said her hometown is largely White, Christian and conservative. She predicted parental supervision of reading will shrink students’ understanding of the world."

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Yeah, this is guaranteed to improve American student scores compared to other countries. Yep yep yep.
Next up, different book lists for boys and girls. Followed closely by required reading lists compiled by parents.

One sure thing, the gap betwen student performances in public and private schools is sure to widen exponentially, good education becoming even more inaccesible to the great unwashed masses. A good time to have lots of money, when the wealthy are about to inherit even more of the world.