[W:24] Can anyone tell me where Cuba has been exporting terrorism?

[Craig234]

We have accused Cuba of exporting terrorism and are sanctioning them for doing so. Where have they exported terrorism?

I suspect a much better case can be made against the US for that. Such as our support for actions against Palestinians, our arms sales, our drone killings...

It seems more like 'hey, we have a law for sanctioning exporters of terrorists, let's use that'. Like it's just a law created to 'sound good' but can be selectively applied or not, making it just a 'sanction who we want' law.

It's perhaps a similar mentality to a police officer who kills someone and plants a gun on the victim. Hey, self-defense is allowed, so.

 

[swing_voter]

Angola


In 1988, Cuban troops (increased to about 55,000) intervened again to avert military disaster in a Soviet-led People's Armed Forces for the Liberation of Angola

Cuban intervention in Angola - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Soviets wanted some return on all that money they were giving Cuba.


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[ecofarm]

FARC

 

[brothern]

We have accused Cuba of exporting terrorism and are sanctioning them for doing so. Where have they exported terrorism?

Oh, wait, what? I honestly assumed that Trump had re-instated them for "human right abuses," but only just now read that Trump sanctioned Cuba for being a “state sponsor of terrorism.” That's ridiculous. What terrorism? ... We all know the misdeeds of the Cuban government re: human rights, but terrorism? That's a stretch.

I'd also mention. I don't support sanctions or embargos on Cuba. It's a poor, not really that important (in terms of foreign policy) country. It has a Communist government, sure, but it's a largely defanged government. Personally I feel the opening of trade and influence peddling of the US, both economic and culturally, would be far more helpful in pushing Cuba along than the non-dialogue.

 

[poweRob]

I hope the US has nothing to do with this. If Cuba wants a change like that it really needs to be grass roots. If we keep being the root of tossing governments, we can just expect more electoral interference headed our way with no leg to stand on.

 

[brothern]

FARC

You're confusing Colombia and Cuba. The only participation that Cuba has had in the conflict was that five years ago they played the role as the non-partisan mediator in a series of talks between FARC and the Colombian government. That resulted in a peace deal and the end of one of the longest running armed conflicts in S. America.

 

[ecofarm]

You're confusing Colombia and Cuba. The only participation that Cuba has had in the conflict was that five years ago they played the role as the non-partisan mediator in a series of talks between FARC and the Colombian government. That resulted in a peace deal and the end of one of the longest running armed conflicts in S. America.

I know where FARC is.

 

[swing_voter]

2.1 1959 Panama invasion attempt
2.2 1959 Dominican Republic invasion attempt
2.3 Sand War
2.4 Venezuela and Machurucuto incident
2.5 Congo Crisis
2.6 Guinea-Bissau War of Independence
2.7 Yemenite War of 1972
2.8 Insurgency in the Dominican Republic
2.9 Yom Kippur War
2.10 Armed resistance in Chile
2.11 Conflicts in Angola
2.12 Ogaden War
2.13 Nicaraguan Revolution
2.14 United States invasion of Grenada
2.15 Espionage in Venezuela
2.16 1992 Venezuelan coup d'état attempts
2.17 Activities in Venezuela


When the Soviet Union collapsed, the Russians stopped sending money to Cuba. Cuba's economy crashed and burned. For a while, Cuba's biggest export was prostitution.

Same for Vietnam.

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[Craig234]

I hope the US has nothing to do with this. If Cuba wants a change like that it really needs to be grass roots. If we keep being the root of tossing governments, we can just expect more electoral interference headed our way with no leg to stand on.

On the one hand, I think 'grass roots' revolutions are rarely possible, not something to expect. On the other, the US motives if it gets involved are almost guaranteed to be rather corrupt, a power grab.

 

[code1211]

We have accused Cuba of exporting terrorism and are sanctioning them for doing so. Where have they exported terrorism?

I suspect a much better case can be made against the US for that. Such as our support for actions against Palestinians, our arms sales, our drone killings...

It seems more like 'hey, we have a law for sanctioning exporters of terrorists, let's use that'. Like it's just a law created to 'sound good' but can be selectively applied or not, making it just a 'sanction who we want' law.

It's perhaps a similar mentality to a police officer who kills someone and plants a gun on the victim. Hey, self-defense is allowed, so.

Your Neo Marxism is showing in your avatar and your post.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Cuba is in deep with the Maduro government in Venezuela, sending military "advisors" to that country.

In addition, dozens of Americans suffered injuries at the US Embassy in Havana due to directed microwaves.

 

[Craig234]

Cuba is in deep with the Maduro government in Venezuela, sending military "advisors" to that country.

How is that exporting terrorism? Again, we're the terrorists there - including a presidential coup in Venezuela and other actions.

In addition, dozens of Americans suffered injuries at the US Embassy in Havana due to directed microwaves.

That's a fair topic to ask about. What do we know about who was behind that? Although, it's not exactly 'exporting terrorism'.

 

[Grandpappy]

It was encouraging to see some of the Cuban protesters holding our flag. It's the symbol of freedom.

 

[Craig234]

While I don't see Grandpappy's posts, I see his sig - "RECALL GAVIN NEWSOME"

What typical, anti-democracy right-wing garbage (complete with the unsurprising misspelling).

Newsom is a good, elected governor. All the right cares about here is that they can abuse a process for addressing actually terrible governors for a power grab to try to overrule the voters (again).

They know no rule they won't try to break or abuse for grabbing power. It's basically all they know.

They were able to buy a recall election, hoping to take advantage of citizen unhappiness during the pandemic; but luckily, we still have democracy in CA and they'd have to win the vote. I doubt it.

But they think it's fine to lose the election and try to get a re-do not for legitimate reasons, but just because a rule allows them to get away with trying.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Define terrorism

Then for all involved use that definition equally among all countries and organizations

 

[Craig234]

This looks like simple abuse of power by the US shamelessly after 60 years of this wrongful economic war, and politics by Biden who presumably sees it as in his political interest to not give the right an attack point on it.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

The US used the terrorism list for political purposes rather than actual punishment for terrorism. It puts countries on the list as punishment for countries it does not like and removes them when the US likes the country

The US removed Sudan from the list when it provided a payment to the US, rather than any actual changes in policy

 

[j brown's body]

Does providing military support and advisors to rebel factions qualify as terrorism?

 

[Antiwar]

We have accused Cuba of exporting terrorism and are sanctioning them for doing so. Where have they exported terrorism?

I suspect a much better case can be made against the US for that. Such as our support for actions against Palestinians, our arms sales, our drone killings...

It seems more like 'hey, we have a law for sanctioning exporters of terrorists, let's use that'. Like it's just a law created to 'sound good' but can be selectively applied or not, making it just a 'sanction who we want' law.

It's perhaps a similar mentality to a police officer who kills someone and plants a gun on the victim. Hey, self-defense is allowed, so.

The US claims it's exceptional. That seems to mean that rules apply to everyone, except US. They are the "decider," the arbiter of all.

 

[Antiwar]

While I don't see Grandpappy's posts, I see his sig - "RECALL GAVIN NEWSOME"

What typical, anti-democracy right-wing garbage (complete with the unsurprising misspelling).

Newsom is a good, elected governor. All the right cares about here is that they can abuse a process for addressing actually terrible governors for a power grab to try to overrule the voters (again).

They know no rule they won't try to break or abuse for grabbing power. It's basically all they know.

They were able to buy a recall election, hoping to take advantage of citizen unhappiness during the pandemic; but luckily, we still have democracy in CA and they'd have to win the vote. I doubt it.

But they think it's fine to lose the election and try to get a re-do not for legitimate reasons, but just because a rule allows them to get away with trying.

Agreed.

 

[Antiwar]

Your Neo Marxism is showing in your avatar and your post.

Can you tell us how so?

 

[Craig234]

Does providing military support and advisors to rebel factions qualify as terrorism?

It could be looked at, where did they do that?

 

[Grandpappy]

While I don't see Grandpappy's posts, I see his sig - "RECALL GAVIN NEWSOME"

What typical, anti-democracy right-wing garbage (complete with the unsurprising misspelling).

Newsom is a good, elected governor. All the right cares about here is that they can abuse a process for addressing actually terrible governors for a power grab to try to overrule the voters (again).

They know no rule they won't try to break or abuse for grabbing power. It's basically all they know.

They were able to buy a recall election, hoping to take advantage of citizen unhappiness during the pandemic; but luckily, we still have democracy in CA and they'd have to win the vote. I doubt it.

But they think it's fine to lose the election and try to get a re-do not for legitimate reasons, but just because a rule allows them to get away with trying.

Somebody quote my post so he can see it. I don't have anyone on ignore. That's some snowflake sheet right there.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Moderator's Warning:

Early on here I want to say straight off the bat, leave the person comments and callouts at the door from here on in.

 

[j brown's body]

It could be looked at, where did they do that?

Terrorism is generally defined as an attack on civilians. Usually military supports and advisors involve attacks on military personel.