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Well, they do have to go to training camps for a month. And the onset of Ukrainian winter is probably not going to help facilitate deploying them to the actual front. I've read an article suggesting it's planned to be a lot more than 300,000 called up. Which is fine in theory but given the somewhat deteriorated state of Russian logistics we've all witnessed, more bodies = more bottlenecks.It buys time, does what his supporters wanted/demanded. It will not play out well for many of those poor bastards
I was dicsussing with @Chomsky and others where I thought Zelenskyy should leave Kiev
Many are alive due to video of their surrender.
Surprising, since you're the threads number one purveyor of ridiculous, pro-Ukrainian hopium.
They look like it hasn't sunk in yet they are free. And there was a pregnant woman? I hope she wasn't raped.Besides their obvious physical calamities, many look like they are suffering psychological shock. The way they stare straight ahead, unblinking, gauntly, emotionless, when walking.
I can't even begin to imagine all they endured, and the physical & mental toll it took on them.
1 month of training, doubtful.Well, they do have to go to training camps for a month. And the onset of Ukrainian winter is probably not going to help facilitate deploying them to the actual front. I've read an article suggesting it's planned to be a lot more than 300,000 called up. Which is fine in theory but given the somewhat deteriorated state of Russian logistics we've all witnessed, more bodies = more bottlenecks.
World has a record of their condition going into captivity. Video was one partThat I wasn't aware.
But put me first in line for the book. I'm serious.
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The fate of hundreds of Ukrainian fighters who surrendered after holding out against punishing attacks on Mariupol’s steel factory hung in the balance Thursday, amid international fears that the Russians may take reprisals against the prisoners.
The International Committee of the Red Cross gathered personal information from hundreds of the soldiers — name, date of birth, closest relative — and registered them as prisoners of war, as part of its role in ensuring the humane treatment of POWs under the Geneva Conventions.
Amnesty International said in a tweet that the Ukrainian soldiers are now prisoners of war and as such “must not be subjected to any form of torture or ill-treatment.”
I have no issue being wrong. My wife will attest to that factAnd you're still behind some of us more aggressive proponents!
(but that's alright - we need your Yin to our Yang)
Surprisingly a very intelligent animal that knows the jig is up and wants to escape. Pigs are supposed to be smarter than dogs. Smarter than these two guys anyway. The gate is not high enough you morons!
They look like it hasn't sunk in yet they are free. And there was a pregnant woman? I hope she wasn't raped.
No comparison whatsoever but I remember busing out of basic training thinking "Wow it's really over!" I didn't think I'd ever get out of there!3 drill instructors screaming at you each one one his own 8 hour shift for a few months gets to ya! Then we get to tech school and we're side stepping in the lunch line like we did in basic. Somebody from one of the tables says, "Jesus Christ you don't need to do that here!"
Haha! Funny stuff!
Sounds like my Old Man spit-shining his shoes 'till his very last days.
I think I am more inclined to wait and see. I have to say Putin appears to be more reacting to developments than shaping them. Maybe the mobilisation will work out his way. But my question is why did he not have that in place before February? Or immediately after the Kyiv phase? Until the mobilisation bears fruit, I will rather wait and see
Haha! Funny stuff!
Sounds like my Old Man spit-shining his shoes 'till his very last days.
But apparently he thinks he is out of options? Should we call this a last ditch effort at salvaging his offensive, or as they say in football a "Hail Mary Pass?"3. Putin accurately perceived mobilization would have negative political consequences for himself personally.
Surprising, since you're the threads number one purveyor of ridiculous, pro-Ukrainian hopium.
Butchers.Victims in Izyum were castrated, Ukrainian forces uncover torture room
Ukraine's First Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs Yevheny Yenin spoke of the horrendous treatment murdered civilians endured before their deaths in a harrowing admission yesterdaywww.dailymail.co.uk
I see a lot of young men of draft age in that picture. Farther down a tweet says Georgia is no longer accepting males.
Butchers.
I would prefer to castrate them in turn, but I'd hate to have someone defile themselves by going down to that level.I would say if they are found they ought to be fed alive to starving bears.
But bears deserve to eat better.
3. Putin accurately perceived mobilization would have negative political consequences for himself personally.
I never see russians fight back against the police. There could be a big crowd of citizens, and a few police will target one, knock him down, sometimes for no apparent reason, and drag him away . . . while everyone else just passively watches.
Just once I want to see a real reaction to that sort of bullying.
For a culture that clearly values macho behavior and the image of the dominant male, they're all so cowed and compliant.
I suspect this is because there is no recourse through the justice system if you are wronged by either of these entities...Respect for state institutions and officers seems to run pretty high in Russia.
But apparently he thinks he is out of options? Should we call this a last ditch effort at salvaging his offensive, or as they say in football a "Hail Mary Pass?"
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