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[W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread



My best attempt at a translation:

"Here is this person, a serviceman. He served, relaxed, in his own piss, to drink, to kick back, with nothing to disturb him."
 
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From your mouth to God's ears, Tangmo.
Yes, and I hope you're sitting down because there's more good stuff. One can leap higher out of a chair than from a standstill eh.

As this war is, and continues to be, it is Putin who must be lying down pale with a cold washcloth on his forehead. And doctors who dare not do anything. Or who might dare to be daring.

Russia has learned on offense in Donbas especially that If there is any lesson to be learned from their offensives so far, it is that the attacker is at a serious disadvantage and suffers disproportionally heavier losses because of drone corrected precision artillery and anti-tank missile fire, perhaps at a proportion of 4 to 1.

Now with the two US rocket attack systems and their extremely accurate and highly lethal firepower the Russian forces need to hold off to find out where the highly mobile rocket vehicles are or will be placed and positioned, and which forces the Ukraine rocketmen are targeting. At what strength, ie, one battery or two.....will all 8 rockets per mobile launcher be fired or half the number, or will two rockets be enough.

Will the incoming from the rockets be its powerful bombs or its massively lethal cluster bombs*. Ukraine is looking at options, yes, one being concentrate the rocket fire to blow a hole in the Russian lines weakest point and counterattack. (I think not yet but the Russians need to factor the possibility.) So the Russians are shatting their pants right now. Kremlin knows they have to attempt to preclude these rockets positioning themselves lethally, accurately, powerfully. And as noted in war scuttlebutt, NATO believes Russia will try to interdict the movement of the rocket systems on NATO territory, or, if not NATO territory, inside Ukraine. Or both. So NATO and Ukraine will take, ahem, preventive measures against this.

Most significant however is the question of where are the Ukrainian reserves? The Ukrainian army spent the first 90 days of this war on defense while arming and training its reserves away from the fighting. NATO believes (with good reason one can suppose) over 100,000 Ukrainian fighters have been grouped into numerous heavy and light mobile brigades of the Army and the Territorial Defense. The Ukrainian General Staff has been hush about their obscure locations and reluctant to introduce them into the fighting before they are ready to play a meaningful role. Stated another way, Ukraine general staff are measuring the Russian forces for their coffin. It's a matter of which ones first depending on a snapshot of the present ongoing developments in the fighting. A critical point. After all, the whole idea and function of a reserve force is to strike at the decisive point of the battle -- or the war itself.

So it's being costly to Ukraine too and, yes, it's a cliche's to say war is hell, but all this time the stout and firm regular and more experienced reserve formations have been steadily degraded by repeated fighting, waiting for the reserves to complete their training and organization. In fact, recent Russian typically small gains are partially due to heavy losses amongst the battalions of the Ukrainian 24th and 30th mechanized heavy infantry brigades who have been fierce and determined to hold the line and that have been subjected to constant artillery bombardment since the beginning of the war. Thanks to these brave warriors better dayze are coming however.

Indeed, it's been said numerous times in scrolling Ukraine has mechanized reserves both heavy and light and that the real dance has yet to begin.


*Gen. Mattis major thrust while commander of NATO force development was a greatly and successful increased lethality of ordinance and weapons systems. Gen. Milley had this focus when he was Army chief of staff (CSA) and Mattis was SecDef.
 
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1. The Kerch Bridge is no longer the only connection between Crimea and the rest of Ukraine, supplies can still be moved via Melitopool.
2. Russia obviously knows this hence why they have numerous SAMS guarding it. That's why Ukraine's not even bothering to try.
Will be in UAF HIMARS ranges before long
Russians will have their backs to the water on a good portion of the front
That time is coming fast. And Russian lines will break.
 
Snake Island - 105 acres and hard to hide anything


 
Ukraine and NATO are just plain old fashioned smart.

Key strategic weapons with highly trained competent Soldiers.

In war quantity often becomes quality except when the Russians are involved. Nincompoops that they are.
 
Ukraine and NATO are just plain old fashioned smart.

Key strategic weapons with highly trained competent Soldiers.

In war quantity often becomes quality except when the Russians are involved. Nincompoops that they are.

I suppose it is what happens when your most competent citizens either (1) move the Hell out of Russia or (2) do not have children.
 
Will be in UAF HIMARS ranges before long
Russians will have their backs to the water on a good portion of the front
That time is coming fast. And Russian lines will break.

Question from someone mostly-ignorant about military matters: How hard is it to hit something like a massive concrete bridge with a long-range missile? Without it being intercepted, that is?
 
Question from someone mostly-ignorant about military matters: How hard is it to hit something like a massive concrete bridge with a long-range missile? Without it being intercepted, that is?
With a guided cruise missile, Tomahawk for example, not that hard, GPS and terrain following, below radar.
But that is a weapon Ukraine does not have.
All others difficult but possible, you would need quiet a swarm to overwhelm the defense.
If that were NATO, it would be gone 4 month ago, plus all of the Russian fleet.
 
Question from someone mostly-ignorant about military matters: How hard is it to hit something like a massive concrete bridge with a long-range missile? Without it being intercepted, that is?
Only some need to hit it is my opinion & I know SFA about it. Highly accurate munitions.
Consider the bridge was fast tracked, + in Russian corruption. Mighty long bridge
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Every step of the way, the media you are consuming has been proven wrong. Over and over you have to ignore what took place the week before because the week before you said it was false and then it ends up true. You ignore being wrong over and over.

Look at what your Russian friends did:



While you and other Putin apologists are bitching and moaning about Ukrainian language policies, the Russians are murdering innocent civilians.
 
Look at what your Russian friends did:



While you and other Putin apologists are bitching and moaning about Ukrainian language policies, the Russians are murdering innocent civilians.


Bu-bu-bu-but if 'ethnic Russians' speak Russian in Ukraine, they'll be threatened with a fine or jail time! Well, okay, neither of those, but someone will say (maybe in Russian) that it's bad that they're doing that.

As everyone is finally saying now, Russia is a terrorist state. And any online defender of Russia is a troll.
 
Question from someone mostly-ignorant about military matters: How hard is it to hit something like a massive concrete bridge with a long-range missile? Without it being intercepted, that is?
That would run contrary to the terms for the longer range missiles sent by the US. The bridge is most certainly on Russian territory. If ukraine did that it would be a big middle finger to the US.
 
With a guided cruise missile, Tomahawk for example, not that hard, GPS and terrain following, below radar.
But that is a weapon Ukraine does not have.
All others difficult but possible, you would need quiet a swarm to overwhelm the defense.
If that were NATO, it would be gone 4 month ago, plus all of the Russian fleet.
And those sites, along with others are high priority for UAF
This NATO meeting should also silence those who would prefer an end to the war, with Ukraine ceding territory to Russia
They speak to the costs of this war, inflation to rapidly spreading hunger in many countries, causing more destabilization of Govt's

The price we would pay is much larger if we do not stop Putin. In Europa and Asia as well
Ukraine has broken many RU units in Donbas, & Russia is a long ways from controlling Luhansk/Donetsk regions

I would hope that NATO, behind the scenes has UAF trained on HIMARS so they can be quickly deployed. Those provided are low in numbers.
I understand NATO needs to se UAF use it. I think we are only seeing some of the results HIMARS had til now.

Like you I think the UAF will attack 1st in the south, Kherson area.
Gets that bridge much closer
And we know the Black Sea Fleet is grounded, can't get to close, or you to could bottom out
 
The price we would pay is much larger if we do not stop Putin. In Europa and Asia as well
Ukraine has broken many RU units in Donbas, & Russia is a long ways from controlling Luhansk/Donetsk regions
Uh...Russia already controls Luhansk.
 
2 regions in Ukraine, from what I recall, Luhansk & Donetsk Regions make up Donbas area?? Yes/No

You'd have to go back hundreds of posts to find something from him remotely resembling reality, so good luck getting him to admit he's wrong here as well. If so, his apology tour would be hundreds of posts long in this thread alone.

No, he's here for one purpose and one purpose alone.
 
2 regions in Ukraine, from what I recall, Luhansk & Donetsk Regions make up Donbas area?? Yes/No
Russia has Luhansk and 2/3 of Donetsk. They are busy now taking territory in Donetsk since they have Luhansk.
 
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