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[W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

Trump, you'll forgive me if i don't believe a word you say.


Trump Says US Will Push For More Ukraine Air Defense But Offers No Word On Further Aid


“We're going to see if we can make some [Patriots] available,” Trump said on June 24 when asked by a reporter if he would sell air defense systems to Ukraine. “They're very hard to get. We need them too. We were supplying them to Israel.

Are you saying trump would lie? :eek: I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
 

Peruse at your leisure.




>U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Wednesday threw cold water on European calls for more sanctions on Russia. That came as a surprise to the NATO foreign ministers Rubio met the night before at the alliance’s annual summit. Rubio, who came under criticism at the dinner over Trump’s reluctance to toughen up on Moscow, acknowledged to his European counterparts that Russia was the problem holding back peace talks to end the Ukraine war, according to the officials, who were granted anonymity to discuss the private dinner. But hours later during an exclusive interview with POLITICO’s Dasha Burns on the sidelines of the NATO summit, Rubio outlined the administration’s rationale for holding off on further sanctioning Russia. “If we did what everybody here wants us to do, and that is come in and crush them with more sanctions, we probably lose our ability to talk to them about the ceasefire and then who’s talking to them?” Rubio said, adding that Trump will know the “time and place” for changing tack.<

From being a longtime Senate hawk regarding Russia, Rubio has degenerated into a dependable "yes man" for Donald Trump.




>Russian tanks and rocket launchers used to be the most highly valued target for Ukrainian drones — but no longer. Ukraine's drone forces recently revamped a points system that rewards pilots for battlefield kills, and it's putting the greatest emphasis on targeting Russian drone operators. Ukrainian units now earn 15 points for wounding a drone pilot and 25 for eliminating them, said Maj. Robert "Magyar" Brovdi, the new commander of Ukraine's Unmanned Systems Forces, in a video address on June 12. Brovdi said the change came from concerns that Ukrainian drone units weren't clearing Russian infantry as quickly as needed, allowing Moscow to accumulate a surplus of troops on the frontline. Now, Ukraine's system has doubled the points a drone pilot can score from eliminating a Russian soldier, from six points to 12 per kill.<

If the end results are better for Ukraine, then by all means use the new updated points system.




>The promotion of 49-year-old Robert Brovdi, known by his call sign "Madyar," formalized what many in Kyiv and beyond had already recognized: drone warfare is now the backbone of Ukraine's military strategy. His appointment as commander of Ukraine's newly formed Unmanned Systems Forces (USF) underscores the central role drones now play in the country's defense. Ukraine's defense ministry says drone strikes are now responsible for up to 80 percent of Russian battlefield casualties. At his underground base, drone operators—known as "Madyar's Birds"—work 12-hour shifts monitoring live drone feeds. The walls are covered with destroyed or captured Russian UAVs, including a battered Merlin reconnaissance drone capable of flying nearly 400 miles, displayed like a war trophy, according to the Times. Brovdi's unit also benefits from a video-game like, performance-based incentive program. Crews earn points for confirmed kills and equipment strikes—which can be exchanged for new gear. Digital Minister Mykhailo Fedorov told Politico that Brovdi's team has already accumulated enough points to receive more than 1,100 new drones.<

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Ukraine drone forces Commander Robert "Madyar" Brovdi.




>Russia plans to train hundreds of Chinese military personnel this year on lessons learned from its ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the Kyiv Post reported. Instructors will cover methods for countering weapons systems used by Ukrainian forces that were produced by the United States and its NATO allies, a source in Ukraine's top intelligence agency told the outlet. Security analysts say China has closely studied the war—and the world's response—and could apply these lessons in an invasion of Taiwan, the island democracy Beijing has vowed to unify with, through force if necessary.<

Putin and Xi are seemingly light years ahead of Donald Trump regarding their joint effortts to destroy the United States.
As if this is a difficult task. ^^^^
 
@JANFU

Has trump said whether or not he will continue supporting Ukraine with weapons??

Trump hasn't sent any weapons or humanittarian aid since the Oval Office spat with Zelenskyy and he doesn't intend to.

Europe is stepping up. The US looks weak.
 

>Russia is scaling up its production of Oreshnik intermediate-range hypersonic missiles, which Russian President Vladimir Putin previously put forward as a possible duel contender against US missile defense systems. Putin told a graduating class of military cadets on Monday that Russia is accelerating production of the Oreshnik missile, which was first used against Ukraine in November. "Serial production of the latest Oreshnik medium-range missile system is under way," said Putin in the televised address, per Reuters.<

Sounds to me like the Oreshnik production facility needs to be visited by Ukrainian drones.




>Russian Major General Apti Alaudinov said he did not think U.S. President Donald Trump would save Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, and called into question the American leader's reliability in promises he makes. The Russian general said that Trump does not feel compelled to stick to previous statements, and that the American president can take his promise back, "then give a new one, then change his strategy," TASS reported.<

There's no doubt that Trump flip-flops and is not dependable. This is obvious even to the Russians.




>Ahead of the EU summit, RBC-Ukraine sat down with Andrius Kubilius, whose position as Commissioner for Defense and Space is a recent addition to the European Commission. "Only strong defense capabilities can deter Putin's plans to attack us," the Commissioner emphasized. According to him, Europe has truly "woken up" and is steadily preparing to secure the continent on its own, without constantly looking over its shoulder at the US. And helping Ukraine repel Russian aggression is a key part of that effort. peace should come through implementation of the formula "peace through strength". And strength on the Ukrainian side. Till now, things have gone a little bit in a different way. The American administration was attempting to push the Russian side to real negotiations. But I think that it will not happen so easily as somebody may have expected. Because it's very clear that Putin does not want any peace for the time being. He considers that he is winning. And that is why peace, at the moment, is difficult for me to predict.<

Putin wants conquest..... certainly not peace.




>The White House has recommended that the US Department of State halt funding for programs investigating war crimes, including those related to war crimes committed by Russians in Ukraine, Reuters reports. Sources told the news agency that among the programs on the chopping block are projects aimed at holding perpetrators of war crimes in Ukraine accountable, including: The Global Rights Compliance project: it helps collect evidence of Russian war crimes across Ukraine, including evidence of sexual violence and torture committed by Russian forces. The Legal Action Network project: a legal aid group that supports Ukraine's efforts to hold Russians accountable for war crimes. While the US is pushing to cut funding for investigations into Russian war crimes in Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Secretary General of the Council of Europe signed an agreement on June 25 to establish a Special Tribunal to prosecute the crime of aggression against Ukraine. After the signing, Zelenskyy stated that all Russian war criminals, including Russian President Vladimir Putin, will face justice.<

SoS Marco Rubio could intercede and save these programs, but success would depend on how badly Donald Trump wants to protect his pal Vladimir Putin.



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Ah, yes, very good. Hurt Ukraine to punish Israel for Bibi going too far in executing a just war against terrorists. I'm sure that will help the Palestinians, just like it "helped" them to back Trump and/or just not vote for Harris to punish Democrats.
 
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