I'll believe it when he gets back from getting smokes.
I did. The paper that wasn't firewalled absolutely did not say "water covered the entire earth."
You are believing that what you have heard from mainstream Christians is the truth. It's not. Paul saw 3 different mansions of heaven in First Corinthians chapter 15. All who eventually confess Jesus is the Christ will be in heaven. Which degree or glory of heaven will depend upon other important doctrines that mainstream Christianity lacks. I believe God lives because I know Joseph Smith saw the Father and the Son. The doctrine of Heaven is cleared up because as prophesied by prophets and apostles of old, these are the days of the restitution of all things lost through apostasy. The level of glory will depend upon one's personal testimony of Christ. Those who had little or no opportunity to know of Christ and the true doctrine will through baptisms for the dead and continuance of life in the spirit world until the Day of Judgment and Resurrection. Missionary work continues after this life for those who keep an open mind and heart and repent continually. So, for 99.9% of the billions of God's children, there will be Heaven awaiting them. Only a few who even after being in the presence of the Father and the Son by the power of the Holy Ghost reject what they see, hear and feel. They will be thrust down to Perdition, a place run by Lucifer and Cain.
There is a lot of data and writings on this subject if one has an open mind like all scientists should have.
I'd love to know when that discovery was made, since Tolkein seemed to use it via the Púkel-men.
- 2 MILLION scientists say NO! There are 32,000 geologists in this country alone - and that's just one of more than 2 dozen different planetary sciences that confirm an old earth. And astrophysics alone - all by itself - confirms a universe in the many billions of years old. 
There is a lot of data and writings on this subject if one has an open mind like all scientists should have.
Yeah. I.looked it up after I posted. When I first heard of it it was a new discovery. I think the story in their verbal history is what got the researches looking that found the cave. And I think they had the 12ky number then, but posited that with the find, where the stories said it was, and the stories it was possible a small group survived much longer, contemporary with early homosapiens arrivals and they left no fossils or remains or such. We only have the tiniest window into the distant past. Even the more recent past, really. Because nature and time washes it all away.
Here's the first article I found:
Or not...
Stupid double post. Still doing that sometimes.
I understand,
You'd think I'd know how to do this by now.
OMG, that's awesome. I love to see myths become reality.
Do you have any PhD's in any field of science? You should think about that before calling anyone idiots. Again, you refuse to learn anything that deviates from your ideology. Yes, ideology.
It's sad they are all duped by their own ideological ignorance. It's funny reading their writings and those in general publications what use a multitude of "fuzzy" words to describe their ideology. Yet, they behave badly when anyone objects to their fuzzy words. Safety in numbers of idiots I guess.
You're being deceived in the most despicable way. "Creation science" isn't science at all. It's theology masquerading as science.
Sorry.
You must be confused. You brought up the time when humans came to North America. No reason not to suggest the error in thinking and reasoning. 10,000 scientists are brave enough not to get sucked into the lies of the 2 million. Maybe you should study about this rather than making uneducated judgments.
"Fuzzy words" - LOL - Needless to say, you guess wrong. Science is based on empirical evidence - not ideology. The only one duped by ideological ignorance is you, my friend. The speed of light is a constant, and the false cosmology of "the bible" is a tale written by Bronze Age men - not god. The Author of the universe is not the author of that book. If you buy into its literal inerrancy, you do yourself a great disservice, and can't see the forest for the trees. The sun does not revolve around the earth, serpents can't talk, nobody can live inside a big fish for three days, and light was refracted into rainbows billions of years before any fictitious flood.
You can go with the safety in numbers joke. But, the truth is with the 10,000. And, more and more, the 2 million are not laughing anymore. Their theories are not adding up.Wow, 10,000 compared to 2 million? Seems more likely that 10,000 have mental issues and can not differentiate between reality and fantasy.
Of course, I am also old enough to remember when 8 out of 10 doctors would recommend a specific brand of cigarettes.
Not sure what it is exactly you are trying to prove though. What am I more likely to believe?
That 10,000 individuals have been fooled by nonsense, or 2,000,000 individuals have been fooled by nonsense?
I stake my money on the 10,000 being fools. After all, there is always a percentage that will be foolish, even if simply to be contrary.
And to me, it reminds me a lot of roughly the percentage that subscribed to the idea that 9/11 was a controlled demolition, and 10,000 other crazy conspiracy theories and other nonsense that most who have full use of their mental faculties would not accept.
You don't get it. empirical evidence is just information. Then, the information gathered has to be interpreted to mean something. The interpretation comes from an ideological belief either the universe and earth are billions of years old or the belief that Genesis is correct and the universe and earth are only thousands of years old. When old universe-earthers interpret in publications or on air they use words like "might be," "could be," with now definite conclusions. Listen and read how they think life began on the earth. "There's a chance," "What might have occurred," "We believe what happened," and so on... Never, "this is exactly what happened." So, your theories you follow are ideologically driven.
