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[W: #18] Jesus is GOD

redbeer said:
An image of you is not you, it's a picture, a resemblance. Christ being the perfect image of the Father, but not the Father. There is only One who is God, namely the Father of Christ and this is what Jesus told us.
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JESUS is more than an image, CHRIST is the CREATOR, SAVIOR, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, the PRINCE OF PEACE.
Isaiah 9:6-7
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.
 
LittleNipper said:
Mighty God
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Who is Jesus and who will accomplish Isaiah's prophecy? Jehovah God...

LittleNipper said:
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.
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Daisy said:
Who is Jesus and who will accomplish Isaiah's prophecy? Jehovah God...



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In Jeremiah 32:18, Jehovah is called “the Great” and is also “the Mighty God” --- You show lovingkindness to thousands, and repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them—the Great, the Mighty God, whose name is the LORD (JEHOVAH) of hosts.
 
mighty god...lower case m...

English Standard Version
You show steadfast love to thousands, but you repay the guilt of fathers to their children after them, O great and mighty God, whose name is the LORD of hosts,

Berean Study Bible
You show loving devotion to thousands but lay the iniquity of the fathers into the laps of their children after them, O great and mighty God whose name is the LORD of Hosts,

New American Standard Bible
who shows mercy to thousands, but repays the wrongdoing of fathers into the laps of their children after them, great and mighty God. The LORD of armies is His name;

NASB 1995
who shows lovingkindness to thousands, but repays the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and mighty God. The LORD of hosts is His name;

Know your Hebrew...

Jehovah used the title “God Almighty” (ʼEl Shad·daiʹ) when making his promise to Abraham concerning the birth of Isaac, a promise requiring that Abraham have great faith in God’s power to carry out that promise. It was thereafter used when God was spoken of as the one who would bless Isaac and Jacob as heirs of the Abrahamic covenant.—Ge 17:1; 28:3; 35:11; 48:3.

In the prophecy at Isaiah 9:6 concerning the Messiah, the title “Mighty God” is applied to the promised Prince of Peace. This expression, however, translates the Hebrew ʼEl Gib·bohrʹ, not ʼEl Shad·daiʹ, as in the above scriptures.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000201

Jesus has a position far higher than angels, imperfect men, or Satan. Since these are referred to as “gods,” mighty ones, surely Jesus can be and is “a god.” Because of his unique position in relation to Jehovah, Jesus is a “Mighty God.”—John 1:1; Isaiah 9:6.

But does not “Mighty God” with its capital letters indicate that Jesus is in some way equal to Jehovah God? Not at all. Isaiah merely prophesied this to be one of four names that Jesus would be called, and in the English language such names are capitalized. Still, even though Jesus was called “Mighty,” there can be only one who is “Almighty.” To call Jehovah God “Almighty” would have little significance unless there existed others who were also called gods but who occupied a lesser or inferior position.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989307
 
Daisy said:
mighty god...lower case m...

English Standard Version
You show steadfast love to thousands, but you repay the guilt of fathers to their children after them, O great and mighty God, whose name is the LORD of hosts,

Berean Study Bible
You show loving devotion to thousands but lay the iniquity of the fathers into the laps of their children after them, O great and mighty God whose name is the LORD of Hosts,

New American Standard Bible
who shows mercy to thousands, but repays the wrongdoing of fathers into the laps of their children after them, great and mighty God. The LORD of armies is His name;

NASB 1995
who shows lovingkindness to thousands, but repays the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and mighty God. The LORD of hosts is His name;

Know your Hebrew...

Jehovah used the title “God Almighty” (ʼEl Shad·daiʹ) when making his promise to Abraham concerning the birth of Isaac, a promise requiring that Abraham have great faith in God’s power to carry out that promise. It was thereafter used when God was spoken of as the one who would bless Isaac and Jacob as heirs of the Abrahamic covenant.—Ge 17:1; 28:3; 35:11; 48:3.

In the prophecy at Isaiah 9:6 concerning the Messiah, the title “Mighty God” is applied to the promised Prince of Peace. This expression, however, translates the Hebrew ʼEl Gib·bohrʹ, not ʼEl Shad·daiʹ, as in the above scriptures.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000201

Jesus has a position far higher than angels, imperfect men, or Satan. Since these are referred to as “gods,” mighty ones, surely Jesus can be and is “a god.” Because of his unique position in relation to Jehovah, Jesus is a “Mighty God.”—John 1:1; Isaiah 9:6.

But does not “Mighty God” with its capital letters indicate that Jesus is in some way equal to Jehovah God? Not at all. Isaiah merely prophesied this to be one of four names that Jesus would be called, and in the English language such names are capitalized. Still, even though Jesus was called “Mighty,” there can be only one who is “Almighty.” To call Jehovah God “Almighty” would have little significance unless there existed others who were also called gods but who occupied a lesser or inferior position.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989307
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Even though JESUS emptied HIMSELF to become fully man, HE was still GOD (and never a god or some god) but a MIGHTY one at that... The FATHER didn't empty HIMSELF ----- or did HE, vicariously --- through the HIS ONLY SON who became the ONLY SON of MAN. There is only ONE GOD, not two or three. But the three persons of the GODHEAD are still only ONE GOD. THEY ARE ONE!
 
Jesus is God. There's no ambiguity. Jesus was there in the beginning with the Father. He is the firstborn of all creation. All things were created by him and for him. He was begotten in the flesh when he became man. He forgives sin (something only God can do). Then gives the Apostles the authority to do so too. There are examples in scripture where people fall down on their knees to worship Jesus. Christians have believed for 2000 years that Jesus is God. It's only fringe movements within broad Christianity that reject that he's God. And they are rightfully cast out as heretics.

Colossians 1:15-16
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

John 1:1-3
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 
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uptower said:
He's also Jesus. This confuses people.
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It would make HIM perhaps more sympathetic to the plight of fallen humanity and a closer friend. I'm sure GOD always knew everything, and understands everything, but I can imagine that through JESUS CHRIST, HE also feels that reality....
 
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(Joh 20:31) But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

(1Jn 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

(1Jn 5:1) Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
(1Jn 5:2) By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
(1Jn 5:3) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
(1Jn 5:4) For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
(1Jn 5:5) Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?


(Mat 16:13) When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
(Mat 16:14) And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
(Mat 16:15) He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
(Mat 16:16) And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
(Mat 16:17) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
(Mat 16:18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


Basic Original Christianity 101: There is only One God and Jesus is the Son of this living God, as proved. Jesus himself states so, will you believe him?


(Joh 17:3) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


There is NO trinitarian terminology in scripture, so why add to it? The traditions and commandments of man have wholly taken over Christianity to where "their" words are to be believed over the "words" of God and His Christ.

These are but a few verses which clearly tell us "who" is Jesus......clearly there can be no mistake, He is the Christ, the Son of the living God. Trinitarianism wants to go much further which is written, to say the "Christ is God", member of a three person, singular being called God. Through tradition and the doctrine of the trinity, it does, but not scripture. Four hundred years after Jesus ascended, under a Roman dictator, the trinity was declared the religion of the state.....congratulations, you have kept the tradition alive and well, as prophesied.
 
John 1:1 Interlinear testifies itself to the fact that Jesus is not Jehovah God...

This is Greek for God, speaking of Jehovah...
Θεόν ,
God

And this is god, speaking of Jesus Christ...

Θεὸς
God

Different words, different beings...

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(Exo 3:13) And Moses saith unto God, 'Lo, I am coming unto the sons of Israel, and have said to them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you, and they have said to me, What is His name? what do I say unto them?'
(Exo 3:14) And God saith unto Moses, 'I AM THAT WHICH I AM;' He saith also, 'Thus dost thou say to the sons of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.'
(Exo 3:15) And God saith again unto Moses, 'Thus dost thou say unto the sons of Israel, Jehovah, God of your fathers, God of Abraham, God of Isaac, and God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you; this is My name—to the age, and this My memorial, to generation—generation.


The 'name' in which God chooses to give Moses to tell the people leaves zero room for a plural, triune God. There's no way one could make this to mean anything other than One, numerically, a singular Person/Being.
 
Daisy said:
Who is Jesus and who will accomplish Isaiah's prophecy? Jehovah God...



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Actually, Exodus 6:3 reads
"I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself known to them."

Isaiah 9:6 reads
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
 
John Chapter 5, in part is covered here. I encourage those skeptical or reject Jesus is God to listen to this bible study

 
Daisy said:
Yes, you said it yourself...2 separate beings...Jehovah's power is unlimited/Almighty, Jesus' power is limited/given to him only by his Father...
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No, Jesus is God.

"If you've seen me, you've have seen the father".
John 14:9
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
 
Daisy said:
No, Jesus is God's Son...
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Philippians 2:6

"Referring to Jesus, Philippians 2:6 says, “Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to His own advantage.” The King James Version (KJV) puts the verse this way: “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.” The difference in wording here is due to the differing interpretations of the Greek word harpagmon, which can be literally translated as “robbery” or “plunder.” However, given Jesus’ deity, it’s probably better and more theologically accurate to understand the word as meaning “a thing to clutch” or “something to hang on to at all costs.”

What the apostle Paul is saying in Philippians 2:6 is that Jesus did not try to “hang on to” or “clutch” His uniquely divine status and role as the Son of God in His incarnation. Rather, He willingly let go of that and “emptied himself” (Philippians 2:7, ESV) in order to fulfill His Father’s will in becoming human.

Philippians 2:6 is a part of a larger passage (Philippians 2:5–11) that highlights Jesus’ humility as He emptied Himself and became human. The passage has a rhythmic and poetic nature, and Bible scholars believe it to be an early hymn Christians used to confess and affirm Jesus’ divinity. Paul uses this poem as a call to believers to imitate Christ’s humility and service in their relationships with one another. In other words, Paul wanted them to act Christlike by being humble in their fellowship.

It is important to note that, while Jesus did not think it robbery to be equal with God in His incarnation, He did not cease being God. Jesus is fully God and one with the Father (John 8:58; 10:30). He has always existed from eternity past. In fact, Philippians 2:6 hints at Jesus’ eternal preexistence in saying that He always existed in the “form of God” (see also John 1:1, 14).

So, by not thinking it robbery to be equal with God, Jesus exhibited true humility and service as He emptied Himself and took on flesh. As Paul commands in Philippians 2:5, God wants each of us to exhibit the same humility in our relationships with one another. Like Christ, we should “not think it robbery” to intentionally empty ourselves of any special status or role as we serve and love one another. As we seek to live in true humility, we shouldn’t try to use our positions or powers to advantage ourselves and put others behind. In other words, instead of seeking to disadvantage others in order to advantage ourselves, we should seek to disadvantage ourselves in order to advantage others. In this, Christ led the way."

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What does it mean that Jesus did not consider equality with God something to be grasped? What is the meaning of Philippians 2:6?
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did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God: Or “did not regard equality with God as something to be seized (grasped).” Paul here encourages the Philippians to cultivate an outstanding attitude like that of Jesus. At Php 2:3, Paul tells them: “With humility consider others superior to you.” In verse 5, he continues: “Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus.” Jesus, who considered God to be superior, never ‘grasped for equality with God.’ Instead, he “humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death.” (Php 2:8; Joh 5:30; 14:28; 1Co 15:24-28) Jesus’ view was not like that of the Devil, who urged Eve to make herself like God, to be equal to Him. (Ge 3:5) Jesus perfectly exemplified Paul’s point here—namely, the importance of humility and obedience to the Creator, Jehovah God.—See study note on trying to be in this verse.

trying to be: The Greek noun used here (har·pag·mosʹ; lit., “a thing to be seized”) is derived from the verb har·paʹzo, which has the basic meaning “to seize; to snatch.” Some have suggested that this term refers to retaining something already possessed. However, the Scriptures never use the Greek term to mean the holding on to something already in one’s possession. Rather, it is often rendered “seize” or “snatch (away)” or by other such expressions. (Mt 11:12; 12:29; 13:19; Joh 6:15; 10:12, 28, 29; Ac 8:39; 23:10; 2Co 12:2, 4; 1Th 4:17; Jude 23; Re 12:5) If Jesus “did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God,” it must be that he was never equal to God.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/50/2#s=6&study=discover
 
Daisy said:
did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God: Or “did not regard equality with God as something to be seized (grasped).” Paul here encourages the Philippians to cultivate an outstanding attitude like that of Jesus. At Php 2:3, Paul tells them: “With humility consider others superior to you.” In verse 5, he continues: “Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus.” Jesus, who considered God to be superior, never ‘grasped for equality with God.’ Instead, he “humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death.” (Php 2:8; Joh 5:30; 14:28; 1Co 15:24-28) Jesus’ view was not like that of the Devil, who urged Eve to make herself like God, to be equal to Him. (Ge 3:5) Jesus perfectly exemplified Paul’s point here—namely, the importance of humility and obedience to the Creator, Jehovah God.—See study note on trying to be in this verse.

trying to be: The Greek noun used here (har·pag·mosʹ; lit., “a thing to be seized”) is derived from the verb har·paʹzo, which has the basic meaning “to seize; to snatch.” Some have suggested that this term refers to retaining something already possessed. However, the Scriptures never use the Greek term to mean the holding on to something already in one’s possession. Rather, it is often rendered “seize” or “snatch (away)” or by other such expressions. (Mt 11:12; 12:29; 13:19; Joh 6:15; 10:12, 28, 29; Ac 8:39; 23:10; 2Co 12:2, 4; 1Th 4:17; Jude 23; Re 12:5) If Jesus “did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God,” it must be that he was never equal to God.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/50/2#s=6&study=discover
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The 11th verse here totally destroys the trinitarian take on the entire narrative they push on these verses:


(Php 2:11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


It would be an unthinkable thought of Jesus to believe he was equal to God, His Father. It's very strange how the popular opinion is to think, believe, and attempt to force others to do the same.
 
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