[W:1607] ***2022 General Election Thread***

[poweRob]

"That is a searing indictment of the Republican Party. That is a searing indictment of the message that we have been sending to the voters. They've looked at all of that [inflation, crime, Biden's low approval numbers], and looked at the Republican alternative, and said no thanks. The Republican Party needs to do a really deep introspection look in the mirror right now because this is an absolute disaster for the Republican Party and we need to turn back." - FOX News contributor Marc Thiessan.

No deep introspection needed if you want to know the cause (rhymes with "dump"). The navel gazing should be focused on whether Republicans have it in them to recover their balls from Mar a Lago's safe.

The republican party doesn't do deep introspections. They double down. It's their only move.

 

[What if...?]

Beautiful beaches and no income taxes on your immense fortune. Republicans have been and will continue to flock there as more and more baby boomers retire.

They can have it!

 

[LostInSeattle]

The republican party doesn't do deep introspections. They double down. It's their only move.

They have done introspections, especially after 2012, but they just tossed it and then doubled down.

 

[madman]

So you must like horrible traffic and high gas prices, homeless everywhere, crime, rude people. high cost of living, horrible gun laws...I lived in SoCal for 30 years and left because of what it became. Having nice weather and the beach and mountains nearby wasn't worth suffering the rest to me.

unfettered capitalism, **** ya!!!

We dont need no dang gumint regulations!

Let corporations make as much as they can. Let the market dictate!
If Safeway wants to sell a whole chicken for $20, then more power to them.

aint capitalism awesome in merica?



cons, and I doing it right?

 

[Chomsky]

In 1955, the province of Manitoba decided to end "gerrymandering" by handing over the highly "politicized" redistricting process to an independent commission.

Its members were composed of the province's chief justice, its chief electoral officer, and the University of Manitoba president. The new policy became popular, and within a decade, it was backed by both major national parties, and signed into law.

Independent commissions now handle the redistricting in every province. "Today, most Canadian ridings [districts] are simple and uncontroversial, chunky and geometric, and usually conform to the vague borders of some existing geographic / civic region knowable to the average citizen who lives there."

While Americans continue to be preoccupied with isolated instances of "voter fraud," this appears to be nothing more that diverting public attention away from "voter fraud" being perpetrated on a state-wide scale - "gerrymandering!"

The real culprits can be traced directly to state governors and politicians, those same individuals who have taken oaths to uphold the Constitution - that includes serving the American electorate by providing them with free and far elections!

Those placed in "positions of trust" and tasked with guaranteeing the integrity of the electoral system have made the deliberately self-serving decision to subvert it!

How Canada ended gerrymandering

Our neighbor to the north solved its gerrymandering problem decades ago.

www.vox.com

The bolded's pretty much how I see it. That, plus unlimited money are big inherent structural problems.

 

[beefheart]

This is why Gen Z is getting out the vote and not voting for republicans when idiots say things like this.



BTW, Jessie Watters cheated on his wife and married his much younger mistress. Such family values...

 

[Chomsky]

“Hey look! We barely won the house after unheralded political gerrymandering and just might win the Senate after a runoff.”

RED WAVE!!!!

Yep. Without redistricting, GOP would have suffer a net loss I believe.

 

[Cordelier]

I was watching the local news when they had a Warnock spokesman on. When asked about the runoff, his spokesman replied that they’ll continue to attack Walker the same way they had during the general campaign, no changes. That’s as close as I remember. Which means 100% negative personal attacks ads. Again, Warnock won’t be giving us a reason to vote for him or telling us what his plans are. Just a million and one reasons why not to vote for Walker. Warnock isn’t trying to get people to vote for him or to support him, all he’s doing is trying to get people to vote against Walker. In other words, his runoff campaign strategy is to get the people to hate Walker more than they hate him.

Why in the world don’t politicians, campaigns, candidates go positive for a bit, to try to get people on their side, to support them, to actually want them to win? Instead of hating the other guy so the voters will go to the polls to vote for the candidate they least want to lose, not win, least want to lose because you hate that candidate a bit less than the other candidate. In reality, there isn’t a candidate you support or want to win, you want both to lose.

I think all this negativity is what has caused independents to rise from 30% in 2006 to 43% today as both major parties are shrinking. People are getting sick and tired of it. In short all I want to hear from one of these candidates is, “I will listen to your wants and wishes, what you have to say. I may not always vote that way, but I will sure take what you tell me and what you like into consideration.” As for Warnock, he went off to D.C. and completely cut Georgia off or from his loop. He didn’t want to hear what we had to say, want or wish for. I don’t see that changing. It certainly won’t for Walker, he’s a Trump puppet.

Unless I hear something positive for a change from one of these two, I’ll sit the runoff out as I don’t give a coyote’s howl who wins. I’ve made my statement by voting for Chase Oliver, I’m official registered as being against both, voting against both.

Easy answer to that, Perotista. It's because we live in the age of bullshit - it's all anyone buys into.

It's like my post to you earlier about inflation and someone campaigning on hard truths. If I'm talking to you face-to-face, and I have respect for you as a friend and a peer, I'm going to be straight with you. I'm going to tell you whether you have that piece of spinach on your teeth or if your breath stinks. You may not want to hear what I'm saying, but you're better off for the knowing.

Nobody wants that from a candidate, though. It'd go over like a lead balloon. People say they want to be treated like adults, but they really don't. They want to be treated like kids. There, there... it'll be alright. I've got all the easy answers to the complicated problems. If it can't fit on a bumper sticker, then it's just some pie-in-the-sky egghead gobbledygook.

And gossip? Boyyyy do they ever buy into that! Unless you're off living in some ivory tower somewhere, you're probably not going to find too many people who can hold up their end of a conversation about econometric modelling or international relations theory. But just walk into any hair salon or corner grocery and you can hear the dimmest people in town recycling any piece of gossip they can get their hands on. The juicier the better! And it works! It's like the story of that old-time State Senator running for re-election back in the day who ended his speech by implying his opponent engaged in untoward things with his livestock. Afterwards his aide came up and said, "Senator, you can't say those things! There's just no basis in fact!" and the Senator just laughed and said, "Well, let the sumbitch deny it then!"

 

[jaypatriot]

Attempted Insurrection: TRUMP IS OUR MAN!!!!

Shitty Midterm: RON IS OUR MAN!!!!



any other questions?

I can't see how vengeful Trump is going to find a right nickname or the right strategy to demean DeSantis. I hope Ron is bulletproof going forward.

 

[Manc Skipper]

At a car dealer getting service, I kept wondering why the tv went silent at times. It muted ads.

Was it Oregon where the Repub admin ignored a court ruling on their gerrymandered map, and used it anyway?

 

[jaypatriot]

They can have it!

Do you always walk around with horse blinders on?
Is the obvious so hard for you to grasp?
People make decisions based on financial needs and wanting to live in states that are properly governed and are prosperous.
Is that hard for you to grasp?

 

[MTAtech]

No, Biden policies have done none of what you claim but did give us the inflation we have today. Your loyalty to the D is stunningly out of touch with reality. If economics makes a difference to you why 8.3% inflation due to massive gov't spending?

As I told you and you ignored I got my first Covid Shot on January 6, 2021 and Biden wasn't in office so stop fabricating results like "your" president does daily. Posted and ignore, column 1 January 2021 Column 2 Present day

INFLATION	1.40%​	8.30%​
GASOLINE	$2.39​	3.76​
30 MORTAGE	2.65%​	7.08​
GROCERY INFLATION	3.70%​	13.5​
HOURLY WAGE INCREASE	4%​	2.80%​

How many times to I have to post data and facts before you accept the reality that liberalism is a fraud, buys votes by spending your tax dollars and what do you get for it

Had a asteroid leveled Memphis, you would blame Biden for that too
Those of us tethered in reality know that presidents don't determine inflation nor gasoline prices. Interest rates are due to Fed action and not the president and are high to tame inflation.
In closing, you are all about blaming Democrats whether there was fault or not and praising republicans whether they were responsible or not.

 

[highroller]

This is why Gen Z is getting out the vote and not voting for republicans when idiots say things like this.



BTW, Jessie Watters cheated on his wife and married his much younger mistress. Such family values...

I wonder what Democrats are offering these women that Republicans aren’t.

Hm….

 

[CaughtInThe]

I can't see how vengeful Trump is going to find a right nickname or the right strategy to demean DeSantis. I hope Ron is bulletproof going forward.

case in point.

this poster WAS a huge trump fan.

 

[jaypatriot]

Had a asteroid leveled Memphis, you would blame Biden for that too
Those of us tethered in reality know that presidents don't determine inflation nor gasoline prices. Interest rates are due to Fed action and not the president and are high to tame inflation.
In closing, you are all about blaming Democrats whether there was fault or not and praising republicans whether they were responsible or not.

I guess tens of millions of people who believe Biden should not have demeaned the oil industry two years ago are all wrong.
I guess tens of millions of people who believe Biden gave a positive wave to migrants two years ago were all wrong.
I guess tens of millions of people who Biden spent too much and contributed to inflation and to people wanting to sit on their asses at home because they didn't have to work were all wrong.

MTA, you are in the right place with your anti-Republican thinking and pro-Biden apologies.

 

[jaypatriot]

case in point.

this poster WAS a huge trump fan.

Nice confession to the public.
I never wanted him to run; hate the sound of his voice; and hope people notice there are strong Conservative candidates who would be good presidents.
But the Trump supporters first have to realize that Trump is toxic to the GOP.
And if I offend any Trump supporters on these threads, well, that's life when it comes to hoping the Republicans wake up and realize Trump should not be president again.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Nice confession to the public.
I never wanted him to run; hate the sound of his voice; and hope people notice there are strong Conservative candidates who would be good presidents.
But the Trump supporters first have to realize that Trump is toxic to the GOP.
And if I offend any Trump supporters on these threads, well, that's life when it comes to hoping the Republicans wake up and realize Trump should not be president again.

and yet you were a trump cheerleader...


"You need to be mindful of the fact the Obama was a likable guy and that is why he was elected. Oh, and I forgot. He was black.

Trump is neither of those two characteristics. He just wants to do what is right for the country and he was doing it until March and then the proverbial schmuts hit the fan. Hopefully he will steer us out of this mess despite all the of ankle biters hoping he will fail.

Imagine, so many millions of Americans hoping their president will fail in leading the country because they do not like him.

That is such a bizarre thought that most anti-Trumpers will just not admit."

How much has Trump damaged the nation?

Internally, we can overcome Trump as long as he is not re-elected. Globally we will never regain our former status and level of respect. Oh my god... trump is a chump but get the **** over it... do we still hate Germany because of the Nazi's... who, in case you did not know, were worse than...

debatepolitics.com

 

[CaughtInThe]

our ex-president is one weird mother****er...

 

[ElChupacabra]

One bit of good news for Republicans out of an otherwise mostly disappointing night:

GOP makes major gains among Latino voters

Republicans showed marked improvement among Latino voters on an otherwise lackluster night, claiming 39% of their vote nationally, according to networks’ exit polling, which showed a 10-percentage-point increase over the 2018 midterm elections.

www.washingtontimes.com

This group is one to watch, and I'm glad that will be the case because so often we're thought of as a monolith; a practice that tends to fail in most cases when thinking about demographic groups. Democrats can't make the assumption Latinos will just vote for them because "reasons", but they have to get into the details of what drives the many different groups spread out in the country. Latinos in the southwestern border states will have different views on immigration than those in NYC, and so on.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

MSNBC is now projecting a 221-214 Republican majority. That is slightly better than what CNN projected yesterday but of course still not good enough.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Democrats picked up one House seat today and are trailing 209-192.

 

[MTAtech]

Democrats picked up one House seat today and are trailing 209-192.

Neither side has the majority at the moment. I see 214 Dems in the House with outstanding races uncalled.
NBC says it is 221 R, 214 D, + - 7.

 

[Chomsky]

Laxalt lost a little ground in NV overnight and thousands of mail in ballots are left to count in Las Vegas. Hopefully, that bodes well for the Democrats. Hundreds of thousands of ballots left to count in AZ mostly mail in the Phoenix area so hopefully, that pulls Hobbs further ahead. I think Kelly is going to win his race. Watch out for Lake if Hobbs wins!!!!!!!

I saw the Lexalt lead decrease, as well. There still is hope to avoid the uncertainty of a GA run-off.

 

[Chomsky]

Yes, watch out, Lake promised to raise hell if she lost.

I'm holding my breath, for the next few days, because if dems win senate seats in both NV and AZ, the georgia runoff won't be as crucial.

It would be a nice kicker to nullify a Sinema or Manchin!

 

[Chomsky]

The New York Post's headline was pretty harsh too, and adds the double whammy of setting Trump aside for DeSantis:

Yeah, but these are all the media of one man - Rupert Murdoch. I'd like to see some other Trump media entities & individuals jumping-on.