[W:1581] US hiring sharply misses expectations in April with just 266,000 new jobs added

[Deuce]

Of course it is garage according to you but how would you really know as most of the rhetoric from the left is garbage as people like you buy the ideology, ignore the results, and are truly cult followers. Your loyalty to the liberal ideology ignores the liberal results as apparently it is easier to think with your heart and ignore the actual results because out of sight out of mind

You posted a pile of rhetoric. Stick to the facts. I'm not interested in opinion.

 

[Deuce]

Stop thinking with your heart and use the brain God gave you. Enslaving people means creating dependence that is a handout not a hand up. Unlimited Unemployment insurance destroys incentive and puts gov't in control. It is more than income taxes in California but that is a start, the fifth largest economy in the world is a social disaster and has been controlled by Democrats for decades. It is run by SF, LA, and S.D. whereas the rest of the state gets it. Why exactly has proposals been submitted to divide the state into three separate states? You live in a bubble, totally oblivious to what is happening in every liberal city and state in this country.

Every time facts are presented to a liberal they ignore the facts to focus on the rhetoric, when will liberal results ever reconcile with the liberal rhetoric

That is not, in fact, what enslavement is. Your overly emotional response to everything is clouding your judgement to the point where you can't even communicate properly.

 

[Conservative]

You posted a pile of rhetoric. Stick to the facts. I'm not interested in opinion.

I have stuck to the facts but apparently a fact isn't something you understand. You tell me what specifically drives your decision making? What facts do you want me to present?

 

[Conservative]

That is not, in fact, what enslavement is. Your overly emotional response to everything is clouding your judgement to the point where you can't even communicate properly.

You again look at the literal definition of enslavement. why isn't dependence actual enslavement?

 

[Conservative]

That is not, in fact, what enslavement is. Your overly emotional response to everything is clouding your judgement to the point where you can't even communicate properly.

Enslavement, people like you are enslaved to an ideology that actually feeds and houses you paid for by someone else

 

[Kushinator]

Any idea how many individual posts about liberal results have been made by @Conservative?

 

[Deuce]

You again look at the literal definition of enslavement. why isn't dependence actual enslavement?

First off, I reject your premise that "dependence" has been created in the first place.

Next, dependence is dependence. Enslavement is enslavement. The words mean different things. Your emotional, hyperbolic response to everything proves just how illogical the conservative mindset is.

 

[Conservative]

Any idea how many individual posts about liberal results have been made by @Conservative?

Understand completely how actual verifiable data coming out of liberal states isn't of interest to people like you as they destroy your narrative and you are incapable of admitting when wrong

 

[Conservative]

First off, I reject your premise that "dependence" has been created in the first place.

Next, dependence is dependence. Enslavement is enslavement. The words mean different things. Your emotional, hyperbolic response to everything proves just how illogical the conservative mindset is.

LOL, you can reject all you want but the data supports that claim, people in liberal states and cities depend on the taxpayers to fund their existence and that is enslavement. You never bite the hand that feeds you

 

[Deuce]

Enslavement, people like you are enslaved to an ideology that actually feeds and houses you paid for by someone else

More personal attacks. Just more emotional garbage from the right. You people really do think liberals don't have jobs, don't you? LMAO.

Never facts with you, just personal attacks and hyperbole.

 

[Kushinator]

Understand completely how actual verifiable data coming out of liberal states isn't of interest to people like you as they destroy your narrative and you are incapable of admitting when wrong

You're just repeating yourself.

 

[Conservative]

More personal attacks. Just more emotional garbage from the right. You people really do think liberals don't have jobs, don't you? LMAO.

Never facts with you, just personal attacks and hyperbole.

personal attacks? ROFLMAO, an attack on results not specific individuals but rather an ideology. You seem to have a problem confusing rhetoric with results as they don't reconcile with each other. Emotional garbage? Isn't that what liberals like you do, appeal to the heart bypassing the brain?

 

[Conservative]

You're just repeating yourself.

And as usual you divert from the thread topic because you apparently aren't mature enough to admit when wrong

 

[Conservative]

They're not voting for a lower cost of living; it is that way because they live in low demand areas, so there are few external factors driving up the costs of living. Individual responsibility and all of those red herring topics have nothing to do with it. What's even funnier is you bring up "entitlement mentality" when it's these very states which are the largest recipients of entitlements.


I see you're going off the highway ramp again. None of this has anything to do with access to poor access to healthcare in these states.


Incorrect. I'm not sure how it is you know what is in my interest or not.


As for those who left, that may very well be the case. The changes in how people work make the decisions on where to live different; giving them options due to remote work. What you don't seem to be factoring in are those who left temporarily, so the question is whether or not they will be coming back. The other thing you don't mention is the fact those leaving the city have just moved to the immediate suburbs. As I've already mentioned, the real estate market in the NYC suburban area is doing extremely well. It's the first time I've ever had realtors calling me to see if I'm interested in selling.


Who says I haven't? That does not change the fact that access is a problem in these states.

The following comes from a candidate for NJ governor and should resonate with the people, certainly not people who rely on taxpayers to feed and house them but rather good Americans who understand the role of the state which is as your candidate for Governor points out. You on the other hand reject that quote preferring to blame a Federal Bureaucrat, the President of the United States

NJ's Ciattarelli touts he's only Republican who can beat Democrat Gov. Murphy

A confident Jack Ciattarelli likes to say he’s the only New Jersey Republican who can unseat Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy in this November’s election.

www.foxnews.com

"You expect your governor to keep the most vulnerable safe, you expect your governor to minimize the impact of any economic catastrophe, you expect your governor to run a transparent and competent state government. I believe that our governor has failed on all three of those objectives."

 

[RealityNow]

I mean, do conservatives even understand their own theories anymore? If your job market can’t compete with a LIMITED TIME UI due to a plague, maybe the problem isn’t that folks don’t want to run back to subsistence wages again? And what kind of shithole do they live in that extra UI makes them sit home?

PS: Every time conservatives talk about how much the left hates this country, I’m reminded of threads like these were conservatives do nothing but insist Americans are lazy and don’t want to work. Horseshit.

They have "asshole mentalities, with the holier than thou bullshit wrapped around it". Young people are learning to get away from them as soon as they can !!! They always want to try to tell others what they are not doing, when they do nothing but block, hinder and stagnate everything they come in contact with.
Go look at some of the places they have beat down to a level those places can't rise up, because the old goat ass types are still trying to live yesterday.
I've seen small town that can't get on their feet, and some of them have so much racist ignorance accompanied by people who attack anything they don't understand and have not kept up with the times to learn and engage. They growth killer, unless the wealthy white man tells them, to devote themselves to him enriching himself off the backs of society.
They are the exact same types the Confederacy convinced to risk their lives to protect the plantation owners greed and malice, and the old industrialist who profited off of slave production and poor white labor. These type of dumb asses ancestry ran across fields with single shot muskets being bowled over by cannon balls, to protect the wealthy, when their own families were dire poor and has since them passed on the tradition of being dire poor and still lusting to protect the wealthy.
Now, that's an "Asshole Mentality"... which is always "full of shit"!!!

 

[Kushinator]

And as usual you divert from the thread topic

The thread topic is NOT liberal results. This is derailment.

 

[jaeger19]

Look in the mirror, Rain Man. My replies are based upon facts, logic and common sense none of which resides in the liberal mind. Tell me exactly what NY has done to solve the social problems in the state and what you are getting for the high taxes the citizens of NY pay?

Well. Since I grew up in NY state. And grew up poor..lets see.
First I got a first rate public education in high-school.
Which I parlayed into a first rate education at a state university. Which turned into getting medical degree.
Now interesting.. at the time..most medical professions in NY and other states..had reciprocity.. in other words. If you got a medical license in one state..you could apply for licensure in another state without taking the state exam. Except if you were from Texas. Texas education was so poor that licensure in Texas didn't get reciprocity. Hmm.
So.. I took that medical degree and turned it into not one but two medical businesses that eventually encompassed several states.
Now..what states do I make the most money? Blue states of course. Because duh. The reason the cost of living is higher is because people have more money and that increases demand.
Your idea that a low cost of living is indicative of prosperity? Hah. Why do you think third world and second world countries are cheaper? People in the us retire in Mexico because it's cheaper because the populace has little money.
That's why wealthy people in blue states flee to red states like Texas and the west.
Because you don't have to go to the third world anymore..you can now go to a red state where it's cheap to live. I know because that what I did. My businesses that make the most are in blue states because that's where people have money. I have businesses in my red state..but where do I sell what it produces? Not in the red state...but in blue states.
But I can live very cheaply in red states because of the low wages..the low housing market etc.
The truth is that wealthy people flee to red states because they are poor states

 

[ElChupacabra]

Why is it people like you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric and ignore the liberal results? You cannot seem to grasp the reality that thinking with your heart is the real problem

It is impossible to think with one's hearts as it lacks the types of cells required for the thought process.

Access to poor healthcare? Where did you come up with that one? Too many people ignore that personal responsibility issue and expect like apparently you do that someone else is responsible to pay for yours? You telling me that at no time in your working career that you didn't have access to healthcare or couldn't afford access? Do you know that states can offer healthcare, why isn't yours? Why is this a federal responsibility?

Poor access to healthcare, not access to poor healthcare. The rest is your usual nonsensical rant that is not a solution to anything; it's akin to me saying "people shouldn't steal" as a solution to theft.

Why is it that liberals look at numbers and ignore the context of those numbers. Red states have blue cities, in fact every major city in this country is run totally by Democrats and those cities have high crime, high cost of living, high taxes, protests, and racial inequality claims. You keep dodging this question, what exactly do you get for the high state and local taxes you pay? AND when with the liberal results ever reconcile with the liberal rhetoric.

I've already answered the repetitive question of what I get for my higher than average taxes. I'm not sure why you think asking the same question over an over again is useful in any way. As for "context", that's usually the word you use when you're ready to launch into excuses for the failure of your argument.

This thread is about missing job expectations but it is bigger than that, this thread is symbolic of the very poor understanding you have of what is even going on in your state showing that you give lip service to the definition of liberalism totally ignoring there isn't a dime's worth of difference between liberalism and socialism.

Socialism controls production, liberalism controls the cash having the same results. You don't bite the hand that feeds you, both create dependence

This is laughably absurd.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Well. Since I grew up in NY state. And grew up poor..lets see.
First I got a first rate public education in high-school.
Which I parlayed into a first rate education at a state university. Which turned into getting medical degree.
Now interesting.. at the time..most medical professions in NY and other states..had reciprocity.. in other words. If you got a medical license in one state..you could apply for licensure in another state without taking the state exam. Except if you were from Texas. Texas education was so poor that licensure in Texas didn't get reciprocity. Hmm.
So.. I took that medical degree and turned it into not one but two medical businesses that eventually encompassed several states.
Now..what states do I make the most money? Blue states of course. Because duh. The reason the cost of living is higher is because people have more money and that increases demand.
Your idea that a low cost of living is indicative of prosperity? Hah. Why do you think third world and second world countries are cheaper? People in the us retire in Mexico because it's cheaper because the populace has little money.
That's why wealthy people in blue states flee to red states like Texas and the west.
Because you don't have to go to the third world anymore..you can now go to a red state where it's cheap to live. I know because that what I did. My businesses that make the most are in blue states because that's where people have money. I have businesses in my red state..but where do I sell what it produces? Not in the red state...but in blue states.
But I can live very cheaply in red states because of the low wages..the low housing market etc.
The truth is that wealthy people flee to red states because they are poor states

The irony, of course, is these kind of moves end up bringing the same problems the people leaving more expensive states left to begin with; especially if they're moving to smaller urban centers. One only has to look at the cost of living increases in growing cities to see that dynamic. What the recent domestic migrants have bought themselves is some time, and if there isn't a continued influx, then it might not affect them altogether.

As an example, one can look at the housing shortage in Austin, TX which has been a popular destination for a lot of tech workers due to the expansion of that industry in that city. When I was there in 2019, it was interesting to see a lot of new development all over the city and the many boutique style shops indicative of upper middle class and more affluent demographics. This trend continues, and as I read recently, the demand for housing there is impacting those who cannot afford to either buy or rent.

I mentioned this in another thread, but one of the positive outcomes that results from the pandemic is the expansion of prosperous areas outside of the major urban centers, More flexible work situations might make it beneficial for former urbanites to resettle to small towns and establish businesses there. For quite a while I've felt there's too much concentration of wealth in urban centers.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The following comes from a candidate for NJ governor and should resonate with the people, certainly not people who rely on taxpayers to feed and house them but rather good Americans who understand the role of the state which is as your candidate for Governor points out. You on the other hand reject that quote preferring to blame a Federal Bureaucrat, the President of the United States

NJ's Ciattarelli touts he's only Republican who can beat Democrat Gov. Murphy

A confident Jack Ciattarelli likes to say he’s the only New Jersey Republican who can unseat Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy in this November’s election.

www.foxnews.com

I'm sure it will resonate with some, but I think Gov. Murphy's done pretty well all things considered. The rest of your diatribe goes where it usually does since it has nothing to do with the thread topic.

 

[Tbird19482]

Any idea how many individual posts about liberal results have been made by @Conservative?

Just about every other one if not more
Have a nice afternoon

 

[ElChupacabra]

Regarding the thread topic, another nail in the liberal coffin that you will ignore

Joe Biden Deserves ALL of the Blame for April's Horrific Jobs Report - Liberty Planet

There is no reason to blame anyone other than President Joe Biden for the abysmal jobs report for April 2021. Estimates indicated the United States would gain 1 million jobs in April. It gained a mere 266,000. Everyone agrees such a result is horrific. President Biden is attempting to mitigate...

www.libertyplanets.com

There is quite a difference between liberalism, socialism, and capitalism, which one of the three promotes incentive, risk taking, individual wealth creation, personal responsibility thus is aligned with the country our Founders created?

It's a nail alright, but one that misses the mark. Interesting that Biden "deserves all the blame for April's horrific jobs report", so assuming that logic he deserves all the praise for the better ones the previous months, correct? I do suspect you'll bring in the old "b-b-but context" to shift away from this simplistic logic, and will likely do the same if jobs reports are stronger in the coming months.

Now, as to the premise of the article, one would have to ask why the jobs numbers were better the previous months if people were indeed intent on not going back to work because of the UI benefits.

 

[Conservative]

The thread topic is NOT liberal results. This is derailment.

The results generated are indeed liberal results from liberal economic policies that do not promote incentive

 

[ElChupacabra]

Any idea how many individual posts about liberal results have been made by @Conservative?

If DP had a penny for every one of those posts, it could fund itself through the next few decades.

 

[Hatuey]

This thread got to 50 pages, cause yall don't have nothing better to do than argue with right wing chicken little.

Sigh.