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[W:148] Affirmative Action promotes systemic racial discrimination.

Of course not. Mediocre white guy with rich parents will always have the advantages. Talk about the unqualified getting in before better people. That would be it right there: Loser legacy ****s riding dead grandpa's coattails.

Two wrongs do not make a right. BTW, I am not asserting that AA candidates are unqualified, but they do replace other (often more) qualified candidates (based on their race).
 
OK, then by definition AA is not objective.
I don’t understand. When I worked in the field, affirmative action meant advertising in magazines or places where women and minorities might see the ads, putting “An Equal Opportunity Employer” in the ad copy, removing non-relevant job requirements that might screen out minorities, etc.
 
Of course not. Mediocre white guy with rich parents will always have the advantages. Talk about the unqualified getting in before better people. That would be it right there.
As long as some applicants are accepted not based on merit then it is perfectly legitimate to use political power to insure diverse applicants are also accepted.
 
taking money from me to give to a perosn of color because someone a 160 years ago owned their relative is punishing me, and precluded by the constitution.

of course it did.
Where did the money come from in the first place? Did you just print it up yourself?
 
It doesnt necessarily have to involve punishment. We gave Japanese Americans reparations from the US government. This did not violate the constitution at all.

Yep, but we did not give reparations to all Japanese Americans, or wait well over 100 years to do so.
 
As long as some applicants are accepted not based on merit then it is perfectly legitimate to use political power to insure diverse applicants are also accepted.
Funny thing is the loudest mouths opposing AA are invariably also huge fans of the legacy admissions.
 
It was never declared unconstitutional. Read some history..
didn't say it went to court and was unconstitutional. I correctly pointed out that it was unconstitutional.
 
reparations are demonstrably unconstitutional. You can not punish me for a crime I never committed. Neither can you give money to someone based on their race. Both are very demonstrably precluded by the constitution.
I was thinking we could tax the great wealth the south generated from slavery. Also many of the southern roads and other infrastructure was built by predominantly Black chain gangs up until a few tens of years ago. We could put a toll on those.
 
I was thinking we could tax the great wealth the south generated from slavery.
can't. nobody alive ever owned a slave so they can't be punished for it.
Also many of the southern roads and other infrastructure was built by predominantly Black chain gangs up until a few tens of years ago. We could put a toll on those.
if a state wants to put up toll roads that's fine. But reoperations are unconstitutional
 
I was thinking we could tax the great wealth the south generated from slavery. Also many of the southern roads and other infrastructure was built by predominantly Black chain gangs up until a few tens of years ago. We could put a toll on those.

Yep, to send a reparations check to Barrack Obama, out of fairness. ;)
 
can't. nobody alive ever owned a slave so they can't be punished for it.

if a state wants to put up toll roads that's fine. But reoperations are unconstitutional
Where did your dollars originate?
 
Yep, to send a reparations check to Barrack Obama, out of fairness. ;)
No. I think it would be better spent setting up educational trust funds and prep schools for the descendants of slaves. The descendants of the slave owners still have theirs's. Perhaps we could spend it on endowments to universities to establish scholarships for descendants of slaves.
 
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Nope. The dollar bill did not originate from your labor. Heres a hint: if you gathered up 1000 of your own dollar bills and set them on fire, what would happen?
 
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Affirmative Action (AA) began with an presidential executive order by JFK back in 1961. Over time AA has evolved into laws and regulations that support systemic racism. Paradoxically the intent of AA was it was supposed to undermine racial discrimination. Like so many progressive left programs AA actually creates systemic racial discrimination and undermines individual liberty. No doubt the intent of AA was to reduce race based discrimination, but the effect of AA is now the only form of government promoted and condoned race-based discrimination. AA is immoral and conflicts with the civil rights laws which were intended to outlaw and discourage racial discrimination. AA seriously undermine merit and demands people be judged less on objective qualifications and more based on race, ethnicity, and gender indenity.
Cool! Another white supremacist post!
 
Funny thing is the loudest mouths opposing AA are invariably also huge fans of the legacy admissions.
I oppose race-based discrimination and it is being called AA. I am certainly not a fan of legacy admissions either and suspect it was one reason race-based AA started as a way to make such discrimination harder to observe. Also race-based AA policies that resulted in more less qualified blacks and Hispanics and fewer more qualified Asian-Americans and non-legacy whites made it a lot easier for the legacy kids to succeed and not end up at the bottom of their class, like Joe Biden did. Race-based AA might have enabled Joe Biden to have finished higher in his class.

Care to take a crack at this question:

"The claim that AA is illegal is not reality, but perhaps we can agree race-based policies in practice ought to be illegal?" RealityChecker

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Also paying for welfare with tax dollars is not unconstitutional either.
Correct. Only repetitions based on race is. It’s why it can’t and won’t ever happen.
 
I oppose race-based discrimination and it is being called AA. I am certainly not a fan of legacy admissions either and suspect it was one reason race-based AA started as a way to make such discrimination harder to observe. Also race-based AA policies that resulted in more less qualified blacks and Hispanics and fewer more qualified Asian-Americans and non-legacy whites made it a lot easier for the legacy kids to succeed and not end up at the bottom of their class, like Joe Biden did. Race-based AA might have enabled Joe Biden to have finished higher in his class.

Care to take a crack at this question:

"The claim that AA is illegal is not reality, but perhaps we can agree race-based policies in practice ought to be illegal?" RealityChecker

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I heard exactly what Right Wing scum think about black people today when that Capitol police officer testified, saying said dozens of the Trumper assholes repeatedly called him the N-word. So save your BS for someone dumb enough or racist enough to buy it. K?
 
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