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[W: #1262] Trump lawyers to use ‘conflict of interest’ between judge, Carroll’s attorney in appeal of $83.3M jury verdict: ‘Insane’

By all means, keep invalidating the known evidence for Carroll's claim by your resorting to "secret evidence."

None of us are privy to the evidence and testimony presented at the trial.

I have never said there was secret evidence. That is your straw man.
 
Am I not answering your repeated posts on the Atheism thread fast enough to keep you entertained? I will say this much for most of the posters here; so far all of them, even Nonsense Poster, don't just mindlessly repeat identical posts. Why do you want to abuse the forum with your tedious repetitions, after you've been refuted?

The appeal was stillborn, like all of Trump’s legal appeals are. They are nothing but stall tactics, not sincere legal appeals with any basis.
 
Your sense of amusement without thought is not universally applicable to pretty much anyone else. If that is your internal experience, then I would suggest seeing a neurologist.
Your sentences are becoming increasingly tortuous. Possibly it's because you've never tried to express yourself logically before this.

Let me simplify. Slavery? Not even close to being germane to this thread, least of all with the minimal effort you put into trying to bring it in.
 
None of us are privy to the evidence and testimony presented at the trial.

I have never said there was secret evidence. That is your straw man.
You have claimed that special evidence, beyond what is known publicly, is in the full court records. These records are, as you yourself have said, not available to the public. That makes them "secret," whether you used that word or not. But since you do not have access to those full records, your hypothesis depends on pure speculation.
 
The appeal was stillborn, like all of Trump’s legal appeals are. They are nothing but stall tactics, not sincere legal appeals with any basis.
Just keep on repeatin', it shows you have nothing.
 
There was no " secret " information but they certainly were exposed to a lot of information that went beyond what we heard reported. There is no way any of us heard, read, or saw all that the jury did. The information wasn't secret it simply wasn't reported because the media, all media, focuses on the parts their audiences want to hear. Not the mundane details.

For example, can you articulate exactly why the AH tape was entered as evidence and what its relevance was? The jury heard this from the judge . As far as those not involved testimony, perhaps you are unaware of the fact that testimony can be given that supports or corroborates what the plaintiff said. They don't have to be involved in the incident.

Are you aware of the demeanor of those who testified on Carrol's behalf? The jury saw them and could judge their credibility with information we don't have. Are you aware of the exact instructions given to the jury regarding the law and what they could consider and what they couldn't ? Are you privy to the discussions that went on while the jury deliberated? Why did they come to the conclusions they did? Are there any dissenters, if so what convinced them to change their mind? I suspect not but you are free to make up your own version.

The truth is there is a plethora of information that the jury was privy to that we weren't. It wasn't a "secret". It simply was not reported due to the bias of the media outlet or because it was just plain boring.
And no one can prove that any of these side issues DID affect the jury's verdict, so it remains complete speculation on the part of the people who like the verdict and cannot countenance its being criticized.

These side issues might not be "secret" in the sense of any person trying to keep them concealed, though Tacopina opined that Judge Kaplan used his position to advance an agenda. But if you or anyone here claims that these side issues, which you cannot quantify or detail, validate the verdict, then you perpetrate the idea of factors that can't be quantified but still exist. And those are secrets that it's advantageous for you not to have revealed-- because the real secret is that they're meaningless.
 
Yet your opponents are fully able to respond without using tired catch-phrases.
The opponents who inject "MAGA" into their every post? Those posters?

Mad Libs insist people should be judged by the company they keep. That applies to Mad Libs just as handily.
 
I was a staunch Republican for 38 years and became a Libertarian after the Post-2012 Republican Autopsy (Growth and Opportunity Project) proved that racist and allegedly Christian wackos had taken over my beloved party. The Trumpers are worse since they are anti-American, pro-authoritarian and will lie, cheat and steal for a draft-dodging, adulterous, traitorous pedophile and autocrat. They seek to burn down the Federal government, shred the Constitution and then rewrite it to favor Euro-American Alt-Right males leaving everyone else as second-class citizens or lesser. Like Pedo Don himself, they favor eliminating the "vermin" who are "poisoning the blood of our nation" through deportation, work camps or street executions.

This is the #1 reason why I advocate every adult American legal to own a firearm to buy a good scoped rifle in a common big game caliber, several hundred rounds of ammo and to become proficient in its use. The best defense is a good offense. If Trump's Sturmabteilung come marching down the street should Pedo Don be reelected, then it will be time for all good Americans to join the Resistance.

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I voted Liberal for longer than you were a Republican, only distancing myself when the Mad Lib Progressives took control. They're still the real architects of burning down the country for fun and profit.
 
He’s on a roll.
Enlighten me as to why this phrase you inserted in my text does not qualify as a breach of board civility. Aren't you implying I have a psychological condition, without knowledge of my medical history? Or did you mean it some other way? (At least your rationale should be funny, since you aren't funny when you attempt to be.)

You ought to look to someone; you badly need help.
 
IMHO, political extremists are usually mentally ill and also paranoid to the point they put their backs against a wall. Regardless if it's a Trumper calling people Socialists, Marxists or "Mad Libs" or a Democrat calling anyone to the right of them a Nazi or Fascist, political extremists are irrational, unable to debate and unable to see any view that conflicts with their own extreme views.
Or Mad Libs yelling "MAGA," right?
 
This is getting sad. Do you think insults make your case? If you've got nothing more why not just quit?
All the insults are coming from your side. Your politicians claim high standards and then drop them for perceived advantage.

What is your problem with Jenna Ellis being held accountable for her actions. Should we have no standards at all? Or are you just mad when MAGA minions are held accountable?
Still a problem with the weaponization of lawfare against anyone involved with Trump. It's one thing to go after Trump; another thing to try to deprive him of legal counsel by making it too expensive for lawyers to take his cases.

Does it hurt your feelings? Do you need a tissue?
No, you've only got a few, and there are so MANY here needing to wipe their noses.
 
See, you keep saying that but don't point out the untruth. If you'd like to point out something that I said you think is a lie, do it. This ^^^ is really SAD!!

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"Sending his thugs" is the most egregious untruth in your little rant. Do I need to remind you that as yet Trump has not been charged with insurrection? Maybe that's because he told his supporters to protest peacefully, and the Leftie lawyers don't know how to get around that.
 
I thought the same thing.

The CSA at the time: "Why did we secede? Slavery! Obviously!!"
Lost Causers: Well, ackshually.... it was tariffs!! That's it!!
How sad. For a while you were at least discussing the thread topic. Now you've let yourself be distracted by another poster waving something shiny. It ends up showing how terribly dependent Mad Libs are upon the proposition that "Everything Is Racist!"
 
LOL yeah, slavery was cited in their succession letters. Oh and of course their "states rights" to have enslave people (which is about as hypocritical as you can get).
And this concerns the Carroll case exactly how?
 
I'm a firm believer that neither politics nor religion make people crazy but that crazy people are drawn to either or both as a means to justify their craziness.
As a former Liberal who's seen almost the entire party go nuts, I certainly agree.
 
Just keep on repeatin', it shows you have nothing.
Why do you continue to defend someone who has been convicted and therefore liable for sexual assault? Du you make it a habit on supporting convicted criminals? Why don;t you just move on? Your boy is not worth all this time you spend on this subject. Like another poster said, the fat lady sang a long time ago.
 
Why do you continue to defend someone who has been convicted and therefore liable for sexual assault? Du you make it a habit on supporting convicted criminals? Why don;t you just move on? Your boy is not worth all this time you spend on this subject. Like another poster said, the fat lady sang a long time ago.
In civil trials, judges and juries will require that the plaintiff prove with a “preponderance of the evidence” that the defendant is liable; in other words, that it is more likely than not that the defendant committed the acts that caused your injuries, and should be required to compensate you for them.
Civil convictions are not criminal convictions.
 
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Are you calling me a Mad Lib?

If yes, then yes.
Since you have no game, I could spend eternity countering your dumb posts. But I can't fight your Guardian Angels here, those who won't ding you for your long pattern of vapid trollery. So-- you're a problem for other Centrists and Conservatives now.

You get the last word, but not because of anything you did.
 
Civil convictions are not criminal convictions.
Who said they were? Not me, Reread what I said, But again, why are you wasting all your time defending Trump? Oh by the way, Carroll is far from the only one that has charged him with sexual assault, Why do defend a piece of shit like that? Do you have a daughter?
 
Who said they were? Not me, Reread what I said, But again, why are you wasting all your time defending Trump? Oh by the way, Carroll is far from the only one that has charged him with sexual assault, Why do defend a piece of shit like that? Do you have a daughter?
I didn't need to reread; this said it all:

Du you make it a habit on supporting convicted criminals?
 
I didn't need to reread; this said it all:
I also stated he is liable for sexual assault did I not? But for the third time this page answer my question, Why are you wasting all of this time defending a guy who has been cited by the same damn thing by 26 women? Why would anyone do something like that? I ask again do you have a daughter? And if you do, have you told her that you spend all this time defending his abusive actions?
 
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