[W: #1063] 2024 Presidential Election night discussion

[OpportunityCost]

Fine, than make your case. It’s not true just because you say so.

It's really simple, no one wants to say it, do you really think all those investigations and leaks were going on without Obama knowing about it? He knew about them. By not stopping them he tacitly approved of them and probably controlled them to some extent while hiding that from Trump.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

It's really simple, no one wants to say it, do you really think all those investigations and leaks were going on without Obama knowing about it? He knew about them. By not stopping them he tacitly approved of them and probably controlled them to some extent while hiding that from Trump.

First off it is highly possible, even probable, since that stuff is extraordinarily below a POTUS pay grade.

Plus, it worked both ways. Comey blew up Clinton’s campaign and likely cost her election with reopening her investigation because of a laptop with nothing new in it two weeks before election day.

 

[OpportunityCost]

First off it is highly possible, even probable, since that stuff is extraordinarily below a POTUS pay grade.

Plus, it worked both ways. Comey blew up Clinton’s campaign and likely cost her election with reopening her investigation because of a laptop with nothing new in it two weeks before election day.

LOL holy **** are you ever toting that water. Active surveillance on a Presidential campaign? The only way a President would not know is for plausible deniability.

Comey had no choice; he testified he would do so if anything new came up. Finding thousands of emails is, indeed, something new.

 

[Desert Storm]

Probably a good idea

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/17/media/iowa-pollster-ann-selzer-retire-trump-harris/index.html

 

[Desert Storm]

That 2020 election does start to look a little shady

Staggering graph shows how eight million Democrat voters 'vanished'

Of all the embarrassing failures Kamala Harris suffered at the ballot box - the exodus of Hispanic, black, Asian and young voters - there is perhaps one that torments her the most.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Brack]

That 2020 election does start to look a little shady

Staggering graph shows how eight million Democrat voters 'vanished'

Of all the embarrassing failures Kamala Harris suffered at the ballot box - the exodus of Hispanic, black, Asian and young voters - there is perhaps one that torments her the most.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Out of the seven battleground states, Harris received more votes than Biden from four of these states.

2020 Wisconsin Biden 1,630,866
2024 Wisconsin Harris 1,667,881

2020 Nevada Biden 703,486
2024 Nevada Harris 705,095

2020 Georgia Biden 2,473,633
2024 Georgia Harris 2,548,014

2020 North Carolina Biden 2,684,292
2024 North Carolina Harris 2,692,853

Sources:

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2024&off=0&elect=0&f=0

2024 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[ModernDiogenes]

LOL holy **** are you ever toting that water. Active surveillance on a Presidential campaign? The only way a President would not know is for plausible deniability.

Comey had no choice; he testified he would do so if anything new came up. Finding thousands of emails is, indeed, something new.

It was 33,000 e mails and they were ALL the same ones, just copies in a different machine - Hillary’s ass’t, already found, vetted, and determined to be nothing.

 

[OpportunityCost]

It was 33,000 e mails and they were ALL the same ones, just copies in a different machine - Hillary’s ass’t, already found, vetted, and determined to be nothing.

See this is where your ethics go to shit again. Abedin and Hillary don't get to vet and determine the state of anything, that's up to the authority on the case. Its worth noting no subpoena was issued to Huma Abedin or Anthony Weiner regarding any email communications with Clinton.

Some background information: https://www.newsweek.com/what-fbi-found-emails-anthony-weiner-laptop-517652

 

[ModernDiogenes]

See this is where your ethics go to shit again. Abedin and Hillary don't get to vet and determine the state of anything, that's up to the authority on the case. Its worth noting no subpoena was issued to Huma Abedin or Anthony Weiner regarding any email communications with Clinton.

Some background information: https://www.newsweek.com/what-fbi-found-emails-anthony-weiner-laptop-517652

You see this is where your reading comprehension skills go to shit again.

Who said vetted by Hillary and her ass’t. I said they were on Hillary’s ass’t laptop. The FBI had vetted them, just as they vetted the previous SAME 33,000 emails and determined they were nothing criminal.

From the article you posted:

”The Federal Bureau of Investigation determined that almost every email discovered in a laptop used primarily by the husband of an aide to Hillary Clinton was a duplicate of previously produced documents or personal emails, a person close to the case told Newsweek.”

The damage had been done though. The reopening of the investigation was horseshit. Two weeks before Election Day it was terminal to the Clinton campaign. Meanwhile that same FBI had an open investigation against Trump that they were silent about.

 

[Credence]

Spot on !!! Wow - truth !

 

[Desert Storm]

 

[Credence]

 

[Credence]

Powerful IMO -- Must read

 

[Desert Storm]

Powerful IMO -- Must read

Cry harder

 

[multivita-man]

Cry harder

Such a typical MAGA response. You could rebut the article but reflexively respond with adolescent teenage gamer-level insults about the poster. MAGA voters don't care about the issues because non-MAGAs and people who don't fit their profile are the issue.

 

[PoS]

Powerful IMO -- Must read

 

[blackharp]

Huh? I never said any of that. In fact, I am strongly against liberal pedophilia and their use of gender affirming care in children. Is your LanaQuest aka Rosa missing a ****ing brain?

 

[blackharp]

Powerful IMO -- Must read

Who the hell is Bill Madden and why would I give a shit? Doesn't he sell shoes?

 

[blackharp]

Spot on !!! Wow - truth !

Yikes. This is embarrassing for liberals. The guy looks like a creepy pedophile. His glasses are weird. He's sitting next to a park in his car. He's spouting off CNN propaganda. It looks like he even spent some time memorizing his little speech, too. LOL. For his car ride to whatever shitty cubicle job he has. Or maybe golf course attendant? Can't tell because he's wearing a golf shirt. LOL. I hate when people wear golf shirts to the office as proper attire. GSElevator could help this guy a lot.

The whole "he is convicted of 34 felonies" thing is goofball stuff. It is phony propaganda and a political attack.

If some people or outlets are referring to Donald Trump as a "convicted felon," it may stem from confusion or misinformation about the legal status of his cases. Here's the current status as of late 2024:

1. Indictments vs. Convictions: Trump has been indicted multiple times on various charges. An indictment is a formal charge but does not equate to a conviction. Conviction requires a trial and a jury's decision of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
2. Misinformation or Miscommunication: Misinformation can circulate, especially in politically charged situations. If individuals or media outlets describe Trump as "convicted," they may be misunderstanding or misrepresenting his legal status.
3. Political Rhetoric: Opponents or critics may intentionally or unintentionally exaggerate the situation for political purposes.

To clarify, Donald Trump remains under indictment, not conviction, in the cases brought against him. Any claims that he is a "convicted felon" are inaccurate at this time. For precise updates, official court rulings or reputable news sources should be referenced.

And to further clarify, millions of $ were spent to comb through his accounting records (to find faults for political gain) and one accounting error was found, in the amount of $130,000, of which Trump has stated was not spent on what they are claiming. The indictment was for one instance, but trying to be charged 34 times, and usually is a misdemeanor. It was twisted into something to gain headlines.

 

[Paradoxical]

Yikes. This is embarrassing for liberals. The guy looks like a creepy pedophile. His glasses are weird. He's sitting next to a park in his car. He's spouting off CNN propaganda. It looks like he even spent some time memorizing his little speech, too. LOL. For his car ride to whatever shitty cubicle job he has. Or maybe golf course attendant? Can't tell because he's wearing a golf shirt. LOL. I hate when people wear golf shirts to the office as proper attire. GSElevator could help this guy a lot.

The whole "he is convicted of 34 felonies" thing is goofball stuff. It is phony propaganda and a political attack.

If some people or outlets are referring to Donald Trump as a "convicted felon," it may stem from confusion or misinformation about the legal status of his cases. Here's the current status as of late 2024:

1. Indictments vs. Convictions: Trump has been indicted multiple times on various charges. An indictment is a formal charge but does not equate to a conviction. Conviction requires a trial and a jury's decision of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
2. Misinformation or Miscommunication: Misinformation can circulate, especially in politically charged situations. If individuals or media outlets describe Trump as "convicted," they may be misunderstanding or misrepresenting his legal status.
3. Political Rhetoric: Opponents or critics may intentionally or unintentionally exaggerate the situation for political purposes.

To clarify, Donald Trump remains under indictment, not conviction, in the cases brought against him. Any claims that he is a "convicted felon" are inaccurate at this time. For precise updates, official court rulings or reputable news sources should be referenced.

And to further clarify, millions of $ were spent to comb through his accounting records (to find faults for political gain) and one accounting error was found, in the amount of $130,000, of which Trump has stated was not spent on what they are claiming. The indictment was for one instance, but trying to be charged 34 times, and usually is a misdemeanor. It was twisted into something to gain headlines.

100% right and I don't know what is worse. 1.) that the posters here DON'T know that this conviction is for the same entry 34 times of an extortion payment that had nothing to do with the election and the judge said that all the jury had to do is ASSUME it was OT that is was to hide some crime and the jury didn't have to agree on what the felony (if any) was, or...............

2.) Worse yet that these posters DO know this and still want to say Trump committed 34 separate felonies but don't know what the felonies are.

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[NOLA Dude]

It was when Trump got censored into oblivion in 2020 by the U.S. government under his nose, working with webs of outside NGOs and Pentagon front groups to mass censor virtually every narrative that he was putting out that he lost.

So censorship does work to win elections. There's a regional desk at the State Department covering every country on Earth.

Victoria Nuland was at a desk that covered twenty countries. For every country, the State Department has a preferred winner in that election."

 

[Corbell]

Another lefty that doesn't understand that people that disagree with you, DISAGREE with you.

Very common. Very insane.

 

[Credence]

Who the hell is Bill Madden and why would I give a shit? Doesn't he sell shoes?

Hey -- ya know, ya can always skip and scroll *SHRUG*