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Video Shows Taliban Stoning Woman To Death In Pakistan (Warning: Graphic)

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I ain't gonna watch the video, but this is the reason I am all for the Afghan war.
 

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ahh, the religion of peace. May be thier laws and country, yet somehow I feel earth would be better off without such radical people.
 

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To these people, living without infrastructure, tribal Law is the only means of conflict resolution. This is the only system of maintaining civil order they have. It's barbaric and wrong, but so is bombing the hell out of the second poorest country in the world. "They" don't all have to die; they are us, human beings who are living like people lived in the time of Jesus Christ. People got stoned in Nazareth too. People got stoned in Jerusalem. Maybe try having an ounce of compassion and understanding for a backward, ignorant, poor, confused group of human beings who have nothing to cling to but religion, which is the last, best resort of the desperate.

Read the Bible sometime:

It explicitly states that you are to kill your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend if they try to get you to worship a false god

Deuteronomy 13:6-13:10, Exodus 22:20

"If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die." Deuteronomy 22:22
 
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except they need to die. All of them.
no ...why you carry all this hateness in your heart ?
these men are punishing a woman who was a prostitute ,so by punishing all prostitutes they keep their community clean from AIDS which is endemic in your country America
see below the figure :

Since the beginning of the HIV and AIDS epidemic well over half a million people have died of AIDS in America1 – the equivalent of the entire population of Las Vegas. There are currently more than one million people living with HIV and AIDS in America and around a fifth of these are unaware of their infection,2 posing a high risk of onward transmission.

America’s response to the AIDS epidemic has produced mixed results. HIV prevention efforts have not always been successful and every year approximately 56,000 Americans are infected with HIV.3 In March 2009 Washington DC reported an HIV prevalence of at least 3% among people over 12 years - similar to rates in some parts of sub-Saharan Africa.4

Despite the seriousness of the epidemic, particularly in certain geographic areas and among certain demographic groups, America lacked a comprehensive plan on AIDS until 2010. President Obama had promised to rectify this during his election campaign by committing to the creation of a National HIV/AIDS Strategy. The Strategy, which was launched in July 2010, is structured around three core aims: reducing new HIV infections, increasing access to care and improving health outcomes for people living with HIV, and reducing HIV-related disparities and health inequities.
HIV and AIDS in America
 

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no ...why you carry all this hateness in your heart ?
these men are punishing a woman who was a prostitute ,so by punishing all prostitutes they keep their community clean from AIDS


So what if this prostitute didn't have AIDS, or any type of STD, what if the sole reason she was prostituting was so she could have money? In a misogynistic society that treats women at the same level as animals, that denies them basic human rights. Why should this woman be denied an income? Why did she have to be killed in one of the most barbaric and archaic forms on punishment in the world?
 

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so what if this prostitute didn't have AIDS, or any type of STD, what if the sole reason she was prostituting was so she could have money?
Prostitution is not a legal job ,it is a crime in the clean societies that respect human relatioships but in animal societies where every maqn can have sex with every woman he wnts it is a job.
By punishing illegal sex-acting members (women or men ) .they keep their society clean from many disasters ( eg. AIDS ,STD ,illegal Babies .......)

In a misogynistic society that treats women at the same level as animals, that denies them basic human rights.
no she has the complete right to deny if she is innocent she will not be punished ,but if at least four witneses say with swear that they saw her acting sex with a man frankly .and if she was married and did sex with other men she will be punished by stoning .but if she was not married she will be punished by whipping only .

Why should this woman be denied an income?
if she was a poor and need money then she should be helped and not punished .

Why did she have to be killed in one of the most barbaric and archaic forms on punishment in the world?
lesbians and pornos who act sex with cameras demonstrating every thing and showing it on the web in America is the real barbaric and dirtiest behaviors .while keeping societies from illegal sex by any means is justified .
think deeply with the real consequencies of sex when left illegally spread in the world .
 

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no ...why you carry all this hateness in your heart ?
these men are punishing a woman who was a prostitute ,so by punishing all prostitutes they keep their community clean from AIDS which is endemic in your country America
see below the figure :

Since the beginning of the HIV and AIDS epidemic well over half a million people have died of AIDS in America1 – the equivalent of the entire population of Las Vegas. There are currently more than one million people living with HIV and AIDS in America and around a fifth of these are unaware of their infection,2 posing a high risk of onward transmission.

America’s response to the AIDS epidemic has produced mixed results. HIV prevention efforts have not always been successful and every year approximately 56,000 Americans are infected with HIV.3 In March 2009 Washington DC reported an HIV prevalence of at least 3% among people over 12 years - similar to rates in some parts of sub-Saharan Africa.4

Despite the seriousness of the epidemic, particularly in certain geographic areas and among certain demographic groups, America lacked a comprehensive plan on AIDS until 2010. President Obama had promised to rectify this during his election campaign by committing to the creation of a National HIV/AIDS Strategy. The Strategy, which was launched in July 2010, is structured around three core aims: reducing new HIV infections, increasing access to care and improving health outcomes for people living with HIV, and reducing HIV-related disparities and health inequities.
HIV and AIDS in America
So - we should stone everyone with aids? (consider that perhaps aids is mother nature's guilt-free answer to the human plague)

Or we should stone all the prostitutes? (yep - because marketing on a human-desire is just aweful)

Maybe we Americans should start stoning everyone who opposes our beliefs and values of freedom? That'll really end some serious problems in the world. (sarcasm - not being serious)
 
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Can we head this off at the pass and just start stoning the fundamentalists for demonstrating lack of humanity?
 

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no ...why you carry all this hateness in your heart ?
these men are punishing a woman who was a prostitute ,so by punishing all prostitutes they keep their community clean from AIDS which is endemic in your country America
see below the figure :

Since the beginning of the HIV and AIDS epidemic well over half a million people have died of AIDS in America1 – the equivalent of the entire population of Las Vegas. There are currently more than one million people living with HIV and AIDS in America and around a fifth of these are unaware of their infection,2 posing a high risk of onward transmission.

America’s response to the AIDS epidemic has produced mixed results. HIV prevention efforts have not always been successful and every year approximately 56,000 Americans are infected with HIV.3 In March 2009 Washington DC reported an HIV prevalence of at least 3% among people over 12 years - similar to rates in some parts of sub-Saharan Africa.4

Despite the seriousness of the epidemic, particularly in certain geographic areas and among certain demographic groups, America lacked a comprehensive plan on AIDS until 2010. President Obama had promised to rectify this during his election campaign by committing to the creation of a National HIV/AIDS Strategy. The Strategy, which was launched in July 2010, is structured around three core aims: reducing new HIV infections, increasing access to care and improving health outcomes for people living with HIV, and reducing HIV-related disparities and health inequities.
HIV and AIDS in America
You actually logged in to an internet site and defended the stoning of a woman.
 

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Prostitution is not a legal job ,it is a crime in the clean societies that respect human relatioships but in animal societies where every maqn can have sex with every woman he wnts it is a job.
By punishing illegal sex-acting members (women or men ) .they keep their society clean from many disasters ( eg. AIDS ,STD ,illegal Babies .......)



no she has the complete right to deny if she is innocent she will not be punished ,but if at least four witneses say with swear that they saw her acting sex with a man frankly .and if she was married and did sex with other men she will be punished by stoning .but if she was not married she will be punished by whipping only .



if she was a poor and need money then she should be helped and not punished .



lesbians and pornos who act sex with cameras demonstrating every thing and showing it on the web in America is the real barbaric and dirtiest behaviors .while keeping societies from illegal sex by any means is justified .
think deeply with the real consequencies of sex when left illegally spread in the world .
of course sex can have consequences, prostitution is illegal here in most places, as well. it probably shouldn't be, but that's another thread. what we don't do is STONE or WHIP anyone, that's barbaric. the culture is barbaric.
 

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You might as well argue with a rock than try and convince an atheist that free sex/promiscuous behavior has negative social consequences. Consequences of social philosophy seem to be lost on the modern hedonist (atheist) movement; you will be torn apart to suggest such an obvious and logical thing.... you are potentially hampering their ability to "live it up, since this is the only live you have".

That said, "you who is without sin cast the first stone", stoning anyone for anything is insanity.
 
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You might as well argue with a rock than try and convince an atheist that free sex/promiscuous behavior has negative social consequences. Consequences of social philosophy seem to be lost on the modern hedonist (atheist) movement; you will be torn apart to suggest such an obvious and logical thing.... you are potentially hampering their ability to "live it up, since this is the only live you have".

That said, "you who is without sin cast the first stone", stoning anyone for anything is insanity.
What?
And people who believe in Christ don't have sex before marriage? Teen Christian girls don't get pregnant? They don't get abortions?

Hah!

You know what else has negative social-ramifications? Religious people who've gone extremist.
 

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What?
And people who believe in Christ don't have sex before marriage? Teen Christian girls don't get pregnant? They don't get abortions?

Hah!

You know what else has negative social-ramifications? Religious people who've gone extremist.
So you are going to point out that there are hypocrites who are also Christians?

Thanks for enlightening me, I have to re-evaluate my entire thought process. I think that if you were being honest you would acknowledge that we are all hypocrites, everyone has said something and done something else, everyone. That doesn't mean we should stop talking about morality, or having high standards, even if we don't meet them 100% of the time.

Alternatively, you could respond to what I said....

At least atheists of yore (Nietzsche) had philosophical arguments...all I can get out of the modern atheist is "don't tell me what I can and can't do" or "you are a hypocrite".

Believe in God/don't believe in God, irrelevant to me; what is relevant are the social implications of the various philosophies.

Also: you think it is extremist to suggest that sex before marriage is wrong?
 
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If the belief in god is irrelevant to the subject then why did you even state, "You might as well argue with a rock than try and convince an atheist that free sex/promiscuous behavior has negative social consequences"
???
Obviously it matters to you or else you wouldn't have written such a thoughtless and obviously flawed statement.
The issues concerning sex-related issues (pregnancy, STDS, etc) have nothing to do with religion - and have everything to do with human nature.
 

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So you are going to point out that there are hypocrites who are also Christians?

Thanks for enlightening me, I have to re-evaluate my entire thought process. I think that if you were being honest you would acknowledge that we are all hypocrites, everyone has said something and done something else, everyone. That doesn't mean we should stop talking about morality, or having high standards, even if we don't meet them 100% of the time.

Alternatively, you could respond to what I said....

At least atheists of yore (Nietzsche) had philosophical arguments...all I can get out of the modern atheist is "don't tell me what I can and can't do" or "you are a hypocrite".

Believe in God/don't believe in God, irrelevant to me; what is relevant are the social implications of the various philosophies.

Also: you think it is extremist to suggest that sex before marriage is wrong?
How in the hell are you going to turn this incident and thread into a religous vs athiest bashfest? My guess is religous AND agnostic alike are pretty repulsed by what this video presents. It is a pretty clear definition of the enemy we face in the middle east. Thats ALL. It says NOTHING about athiests, agnostics, or people that freakin love jello pudding pops.
 
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