Van Hollen Rightfully Criticizes Democratic Leaders for Delay in Endorsing Mamdani

[Tigerace117]

I lol reading this.

Afghanistan? Iraq?

Rotfao

Yeah, where America was repeatedly defeated and a bunch of American soldiers got slaughtered.

Not ringing a bell?

 

[element94]

I find the opposition quite laughable considering what we have in the White House. I'd rather see the money going to American citizens in need than to the richest billionaires and American oligarchs who already have way too much. By the way, we used to do something about that until they got so rich they could afford to buy most of Congress.

 

[Jezcoe]

Togo's private grocery stores at our subject to supply and demand what happens to them when you can get groceries cheaper?

You don't see how it ****s anyone over because you don't care about them. You don't even want to think that they exist.

Seeing as they are doing this in neighborhoods without competition I don't see how supply and demand really matters here. There is a demand without supply. The point is to fix that.

Why do they deserve that. Everybody needs to eat needing to eat and deserving are two different things.

Because they are humans living in the richest country ever to exist and not having a place to buy groceries is a failure of our society.

 

[Jezcoe]

No it wasn't. It took absolutely no effort at all to not do something.

And the effort if I provided you these things would be in vain because it goes against your narrative.

They don't exist... It's okay.. I understand.

 

[CLAX1911]

Seeing as they are doing this in neighborhoods without competition I don't see how supply and demand really matters here. There is a demand without supply. The point is to fix that.

You fix that by enforcing laws.

Because they are humans living in the richest country ever to exist and not having a place to buy groceries is a failure of our society.

I didn't ask you who they were and where they live I asked you what did they do to deserve this?

It's not exactly a failure of a society as a whole on the country level. My neighbor has grocery stores because the police in my area enforce law and rest shoplifters and prosecute them.

If you don't do that you don't deserve a grocery store and even if it's funded by the government it the problem was still remain unless I condition of enforcing the law is that the government has control.

 

[Jezcoe]

You fix that by enforcing laws.

I didn't ask you who they were and where they live I asked you what did they do to deserve this?

It's not exactly a failure of a society as a whole on the country level. My neighbor has grocery stores because the police in my area enforce law and rest shoplifters and prosecute them.

If you don't do that you don't deserve a grocery store and even if it's funded by the government it the problem was still remain unless I condition of enforcing the law is that the government has control.

LOL at the thought that poor neighborhoods in NYC are underpoliced.

 

[CLAX1911]

LOL at the thought that poor neighborhoods in NYC are underpoliced.

Crime causes poverty. So if they're police correctly why are they poor?

 

[Jezcoe]

Crime causes poverty. So if they're police correctly why are they poor?

Poverty causes crime.

Unless it’s white collar crime which is much more destructive.

but this is going off the rails.

 

[CLAX1911]

Poverty causes crime.

No. Unless you can prove to me Bernie Madoff and Jeffrey Epstein were poor.

Unless it’s white collar crime which is much more destructive.

Wait so poverty doesn't cause crime.

Lol debunked your first claim in your second claim wow.

but this is going off the rails.

You mentioned property you mentioned under policing. You stupidly believe poverty causes crime except for when it doesn't.

Dumbest post ever.

 

[Jezcoe]

No. Unless you can prove to me Bernie Madoff and Jeffrey Epstein were poor.

Wait so poverty doesn't cause crime.

Lol debunked your first claim in your second claim wow.

You mentioned property you mentioned under policing. You stupidly believe poverty causes crime except for when it doesn't.

Dumbest post ever.

Poverty causes crime. I added that other codicil because it amused me.

I am beginning to have my suspicions that you don’t know anything about NYC, how it functions, who lives here and especially that there aren’t mythical blocks of empty buildings.

 

[CLAX1911]

Poverty causes crime.

So show me that Jeffrey Epstein was poor. And all of his clients were for they didn't commit white collar crime.

I added that other codicil because it amused me.

I am beginning to have my suspicions that you don’t know anything about NYC, how it functions, who lives here and especially that there aren’t mythical blocks of empty buildings.

Okay what do I care? Tonight whatever you have to to make reality fit your narrative you will get a rude awakening eventually.

 

[Jezcoe]

Okay what do I care? Tonight whatever you have to to make reality fit your narrative you will get a rude awakening eventually.

A rude awakening that there are blocks of empty buildings?

Still sticking with that one not being made up?

 

[noonereal]

Yeah, where America was repeatedly defeated and a bunch of American soldiers got slaughtered.

Not ringing a bell?

Too stupidba post


What was the population density of those countries?

What is it of Greenland


Just too ****in stupid a post. Too stupid.

and if we take casualties that is a normal part of conquest.

My god.

 

[noonereal]

My neighbor has grocery stores because the police in my area enforce law and rest shoplifters and prosecute them

I call bullshit.

No police arrest and prosecute shoplifters.

What a dreamland your post was made in.

Jusr stop.
and why do you post about NYC? You know about it and are too fearful to travel there.

 

[Jezcoe]

and if we take casualties that is a normal part of conquest.

This is deranged.

 

[CLAX1911]

A rude awakening that there are blocks of empty buildings?

Still sticking with that one not being made up?

K

 

[Tigerace117]

Too stupidba post


What was the population density of those countries?

What is it of Greenland


Just too ****in stupid a post. Too stupid.

and if we take casualties that is a normal part of conquest.

My god.

It’s indeed hilarious dumb to think that people universally unwilling to be a part of the U.S. would accept being so because America views it as its “divine right” to conquer their land

 

[Perotista]

"Senator Chris Van Hollen, Democrat of Maryland, endorsed Zohran Mamdani for mayor of New York City on Saturday and called on his party’s leadership to do the same, criticizing them for a delay that he said had allowed President Trump to exploit Democratic divisions. Mr. Van Hollen said Mr. Mamdani, the party’s nominee, was focused on “ensuring that people can afford to live in the place where they work,” a goal that “Donald Trump and New York’s financial elites see that as a threat.” “Yet, many Democratic members of the Senate and the House representing New York have stayed on the sidelines,” Mr. Van Hollen told a cheering group of Democratic activists and officials gathered on Saturday afternoon in Des Moines. “That kind of spineless politics is what people are sick of. They need to get behind him and get behind him now.”

In his remarks, Mr. Van Hollen cast the hesitancy of Democratic officials and strategists as a political mistake, particularly at a time when surveys show voters hold very unfavorable perceptions of the Democratic brand. “We’ve become a party that too often trims its sails. Too cautious, too rudderless. Too attached to poll-washed, pundit-rinsed, and donor-dried messages,” he said. “What comes out of the wash is all bleached and blow-dried.”

In his remarks, Mr. Van Hollen cited his involvement in fighting for the return of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man who was wrongfully deported by the Trump administration to El Salvador in the spring. Some in his party, he said, argued that getting embroiled in a fight over a deportation was a “distraction” and potentially politically unpopular, because Mr. Trump’s hard line on immigration had resonated with voters. Mr. Van Hollen saw a different lesson. “This finger in the wind stuff has got to end. We also need to stop deluding ourselves that the problem is all about messaging, or about volume, or style,” he said. “We don’t just need to fight. We need to fight for something.”"

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Hollen is obviously a great messenger. As the article points out, contrary to the advice of party experts, he stuck his neck out to help a constituent and do the right thing and bring her husband back from an unjust purgatory. And his reputation has just grown.

People opposing him complain about what Mamdani will do if elected, but since we thought electing to the presidency a man who tries to steal free and fair elections could result in good things happening, I suggest its a poor political strategy.

Although Mamdani fit well politically in NYC, his brand of politics would probably be a turn off to many voters around the country except perhaps on the west coast. Knowing this I can see why the democratic party leadership would be reluctant to quickly endorse Mamdani. The democratic party is still in a fight between different factions for its leadership. Those who want to move the party further left and those who want to move more toward the center along with those who wanted to keep it right where it is.

The democratic party has an image problem today. Endorsing Mamdani, a very far left candidate, way beyond the mainstream, I think the party leaders are fearful that may make their present image worse. Only 33% of all Americans have a favorable view of the democratic party, 59% unfavorable. Compared to the republican party’s 38% favorable, 55% unfavorable. I wouldn’t worry about that, both major parties aren’t like much. Questions 19A and 19B,

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_7Bn59Tx.pdf

Personally, I’d go ahead and endorse him. He’s running in New York, a very liberal state. Most Americans aren’t going to give Mamdani’s politics a second thought. He’s from New York, the city, being a democrat far leftist is expected of those from New York. Get out front with who the folks from NYC want.

 

[noonereal]

This is deranged.

Have you never opened a history book?
Turned on your Tv?

 

[noonereal]

It’s indeed hilarious dumb to think that people universally unwilling to be a part of the U.S. would accept being so because America views it as its “divine right” to conquer their land

I never said they would.

I said it does not matter.

 

[Jezcoe]

Have you never opened a history book?
Turned on your Tv?

It is deranged in that the US would conduct a war of conquest in the 21st century.

 

[Tigerace117]

I never said they would.

I said it does not matter.

Except it absolutely does matter, because America trying to annex people who universally hate it guarantees failure.

 

[noonereal]

It is deranged in that the US would conduct a war of conquest in the 21st century.

Can you explain this using qualified and quantified methods?

No, you can't and that is my point


Since WW2 we have lived in a world very different than history previous. There is no reason to not continue to expand

Russia and China are
We should sit still?

 

[noonereal]

Except it absolutely does matter, because America trying to annex people who universally hate it guarantees failure.

Ridiculous statement

Did you know the Indians did not want use here?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

NY Gov Kathy Hochul just endorsed Mamdahni