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US Special Forces Deploy To Mexico For "Training" Mission Following Spy Plane SIGINT Operations

RetiredUSN said:
The cartels are terrorist groups and this is a fact.
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Yes and they are operating in every state and county in this country. Shit going to hit the fan soon.
 
VySky said:
Training. cough....cough...cough.... How about that jet man? LMAO :D :D :D :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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VySky said:
Naturally. You don’t know anything about intelligence gathering obviously.
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One must wonder what type of "intelligence gathering" you claim to have been involved in -- 'cause you sure got zero knowledge of geography.

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After two weeks of US Air Force RC-135V/W Rivet Joint reconnaissance aircraft conducting multiple signals intelligence (SIGINT) operations along the US-Mexico border and in international waters off southern Baja California—areas controlled by heavily armed drug cartels—the Mexican Senate Commission has approved the deployment of US Special Forces operators to the country for "training missions."

SOFREP's Guy D. McCardle reports that the Mexican Senate Commission has already approved the US Army's 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne) Green Berets to conduct training exercises at a naval facility in Campeche, a Mexican port city on the Gulf of Mexico.
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Baja California is just a few miles distant from Campeche - 1225 miles distant. So why would the US Special Forces Group be at a base on the eastern coast of Mexico and the aerial survaillance was on the western coast?
 
Sending in the military doesn't always work out the way you want it to.

This was low key in comparison to other things, but may end up being of much more consequence than most people realize.

My take is, using your military against the cartels on foreign soil could have the unintended consequence of destabilizing parts of Mexico, especially if you start killing civilians.

Coupled with trying to tariff and destabilize their economy, you risk radicalizing and turning Mexico massively against you.

I understand why you would want to do it and I understand the temptation to do it, these cartels have gained more resources, have become insanely powerful and well equipped but the danger here, is you miss why this is the case to begin with.

It's your own policy as a country that lead to this place, the war on drugs is what gave the cartels their cash flow, it's what has allowed them to become so well equipped and it's your own citizens that have funded it, with their insatiable appetite for drugs, it is your own pharmaceutical companies that began the opioid epidemic to begin with.

Nothing Trump is doing here makes sense in the long run.

Murca loves splosions, they love "looking" tough, like they're doing something big and bold.

But don't forget, these Cartels at the end of the day are made up of Mexicans, who for one reason or another, mainly due to lack of economic opportunities have joined these organizations, I'm not saying it gives them a pass, but do you really want to end up in a shooting war in the mountains and plains of Mexico, fighting what is at the end of the day a relatively well equipped group of LOCALS on their own soil...

Trumpists, as usual, I'm not entirely sure you've thought this through.

But hey, you'll figure that out soon enough, or not, I don't care, have fun, make sure you have plenty of body bags.
 
Somerville said:
One must wonder what type of "intelligence gathering" you claim to have been involved in -- 'cause you sure got zero knowledge of geography.

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Baja California is just a few miles distant from Campeche - 1225 miles distant. So why would the US Special Forces Group be at a base on the eastern coast of Mexico and the aerial survaillance was on the western coast?
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The plane flew down the east side of the Baja peninsula.

 
beefheart said:
Mexico is awesome, we go several times a year, by car. No issues crossing the border, although crossing back into the US can be a long wait. I've driven across 5 border crossings, no issues.

Only a 3.5 hour drive from Phoenix gets you to Puerto Penasco, a great beachfront town, been going for over 40 years.

Some of the nicest people in the world, amazing culture, great cuisine and fantastic beaches.

I've also flown into 9 cities in Mexico, no problems ever.
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There was a time when I could say the same. I used to cross at Nuevo Progreso and Renosa at least once a week (to pick up Coronas, (LOL!)

Flown to Puerto Vallarta, Cancun, Mexico City several times too. (The best flight I ever took was on an Aero Mexico flight into Mexico City. The cabin pressure was perfect, no bumps and the food was AWESOME! Even got to watch a Spiderman movie when it first came out. Perfectamundo.) And I agree, the people there were awesome and I always enjoyed my trips immensely.

But that was then. This is now. Perhaps I would have better put my opinion like this, "Mexico scares the shit out of me and I am afraid to travel there these days."

I remember my last trip to Cancun. Several quests at the resort I was staying at had run in's with the Cancun policia. Each problem has a common denominator. A "Taxi." Supposedly, taxi driver's there would tell police that they weren't paid and the police would show up and shake down the tourist. It was bullshit. The ritzy people staying at this resort wouldn't stiff a taxi driver. They had more money than the Pope. The cops would sit outside the resort and when someone arrived by taxi, got out and walked in, the cops would go in and shake them down with false accusations, but for 200.00 cash, they would make it 'go away." The guests just usually gave the crooked cops what they wanted just to avoid their hassle and threats of being jailed. Happened to several people there during my 1 week stay. I took the bus.

Great memories of Mexico. But I already have my share of good Mexican memories. I want to go to other places instead.
 
Tigerace117 said:
And yet you continue to humiliate yourself by failing to defend your claims.

What happened the last time America invaded Mexico, again?
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When the US last invaded the nation of Mexico in earnest the US ended up with much of what is now the Southwest.

If you are talking about the expedition into Mexico later not so successful. That was also over a century ago.
 
Fledermaus said:
When the US last invaded the nation of Mexico in earnest the US ended up with much of what is now the Southwest.

If you are talking about the expedition into Mexico later not so successful. That was also over a century ago.
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“In earnest” 😂

Anyone who thinks the US efforts to catch Pancho Villa weren’t “in earnest” is a moron.

It was such a utter failure, in fact, that the US refrained from even trying to invade Mexico again.
 
Fledermaus said:
Do you need a definition?



The US invasion in the 1800s consisted of 73,000+

The Mexico expedition? 10,000



Was there a reason to invade after Villa's pursuit?
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Ten thousand soldiers is not a small amount, especially given how small the US Army remained between 1880 and 1941.

The entire US Army in 1914 numbered about a hundred thousand men.

Gee, Mexico nationalizing its oil was repeatedly cited as a casus belli....but luckily for the US FDR, basically the only American president of the last century to treat Latin America with any degree of respect, was in office.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Ten thousand soldiers is not a small amount, especially given how small the US Army remained between 1880 and 1941.
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70,000 vs 10,000

Tigerace117 said:
The entire US Army in 1914 numbered about a hundred thousand men.
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And?

Tigerace117 said:
Gee, Mexico nationalizing its oil was repeatedly cited as a casus belli....but luckily for the US FDR, basically the only American president of the last century to treat Latin America with any degree of respect, was in office.
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Battle of Columbus (1916) had nothing to do with it.....?
 
Fledermaus said:
70,000 vs 10,000



And?



Battle of Columbus (1916) had nothing to do with it.....?
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Ten percent of the entire standing US Army being committed to a war shows the idea they “weren’t in earnest” to be a lie.

Uh....you are aware the Battle of Columbus was before the utterly failed Pancho Villa expedition, right?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Ten percent of the entire standing US Army being committed to a war shows the idea they “weren’t in earnest” to be a lie.

Uh....you are aware the Battle of Columbus was before the utterly failed Pancho Villa expedition, right?
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Yes ... And?

The Battle of Columbus was the reason for the Pancho Villa expedition.
 
Fledermaus said:
Yes ... And?

The Battle of Columbus was the reason for the Pancho Villa expedition.
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So your claim the US’ “heart wasn’t in the invasion” is clearly a lie.

You asked if there was any excuse for invasion after America failed so miserably to hunt Villa down.

I pointed out plenty in the US thought so, but FDR was smart enough not to fall for that trap.
 
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