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US now even weak in Zambia

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Holy crap! And, people thought Obama was rolled over because he said something about a red line.

This is bad

US ambassador recalled after dispute with Zambian government over gay rights and corruption

Why you ask?

In an extraordinary move, the State Department is pulling the US ambassador to Zambia after the president there objected to his harsh criticism of the government's record on corruption and gay rights.

Recalling an ambassador is rare, especially when an ambassador is arguing for American values abroad.
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Well, since the Trump admin does not stand for American values, I guess this makes sense.
 
What an extra ignorant thread title having nothing to do with the OP.

Of course the Democratic Party and many of their minions will be upset about this. In their opinion, any country has a right to execute and imprison homosexuals. That is why they so feverishly defend Iran and radical Islam - and want to import as many gay-hating Muslims as possible - hoping to purge homosexuals from the USA this way.

If the Democratic Party got their way, they would send the Zambian government at least $10 billion dollars in cash as a reward with an apology for the existence of the United States.
 
joko104 said:
What an extra ignorant thread title having nothing to do with the OP.

Of course the Democratic Party and many of their minions will be upset about this. In their opinion, any country has a right to execute and imprison homosexuals. That is why they so feverishly defend Iran and radical Islam.
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Right, don't you see the left going after Islamic countries over their gay persecution? Yea, me either. They'd rather bash Christians.
 
veritas1 said:
Right, don't you see the left going after Islamic countries over their gay persecution? Yea, me either. They'd rather bash Christians.
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I thought Christians always said they were better than the Muslims? Of course, I knew they were lying. But, still...
 
calamity said:
I thought Christians always said they were better than the Muslims? Of course, I knew they were lying. But, still...
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Better? What does that mean? Better how? You shouldn't talk about things you don't understand.
 
veritas1 said:
Better? What does that mean? Better how? You shouldn't talk about things you don't understand.
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So, Christians are just as bad. Got it.
 
calamity said:
And, people thought Obama was rolled over because he said something about a red line.
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That was a gigantic roll-over. A spanking on the geopolitical stage the likes of which is rarely seen. Bush woulda done something.
 
Wonder if Trump wouls stand by and do nothing if the Zambians were to overrun our embassy and murder our ambassador.You know like what happened in Benghazi.
 
WTH,
US Ambassador Daniel Foote, in a scathing statement on December 2, slammed those in the conservative Christian country who compare homosexuality to bestiality and said he was shocked by the "venom and hate" he received for criticizing the sentencing of two men to 15 years in jail for being in a gay relationship. Same-sex activity is illegal in Zambia.
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He is being recalled to protect the now
Persona Non Grata...
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and somehow that leads to more anti Trump hysteria?
 
lemmiwinx said:
Wonder if Trump wouls stand by and do nothing if the Zambians were to overrun our embassy and murder our ambassador.You know like what happened in Benghazi.
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Let's not paint a nation with terrorists.

We should have done something, but it was a Somalia-like situation. Terrorists mixed with the population in a fire fight. Personally, I believe when the mortars landed so should have boots on the ground.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Wonder if Trump wouls stand by and do nothing if the Zambians were to overrun our embassy and murder our ambassador.You know like what happened in Benghazi.
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That wouldn't have happened except that we destabilized Libya by helping take out Khaddaffi. Remember, Hillary the harpy chortling, "We came, we saw, he died! Hyuk, hyuk...". The worst part is that this was after Khaddaffi agreed to give up all his WMD ambitions. As in Iraq and Syria, we never learn.
 
veritas1 said:
That wouldn't have happened except that we destabilized Libya by helping take out Khaddaffi. Remember, Hillary the harpy chortling, "We came, we saw, he died! Hyuk, hyuk...". The worst part is that this was after Khaddaffi agreed to give up all his WMD ambitions. As in Iraq and Syria, we never learn.
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Ah, a fan of Qaddafi now are ya?
 
veritas1 said:
See, right on cue. You don't get it do you? I guess you were all in on Iraq. Worked out great didn't it?
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Your side lied us into that.
 
There is literally no topic that the TDS crowd cannot hate Trump over.

The ambassador was right to criticize the Zambia for its treatment of gays, and Trump was right to recall him once it became too hot for him to remain there. I think our geopolitical role on the world stage will survive.

The only reason this story got any play at all was probably because Christmas was a slow news day and this was the only thing they could find to hate Trump over.
 
Qadaffi was co-operating the best he could when he was snuffed. Got a raw deal you'd have to say.
 
veritas1 said:
I don't know what you are referring to. You'll need to be more specific and provide proof of your claims.
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Look who's talking about providing proof of claims. What a laugh. False as your own online ID/handle/name, on record.
 
calamity said:
Your side lied us into that.
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I never suggested otherwise. Realizing the folly of taking out Saddam doesn't make one a "fan" of him. Were all the Dems who voted against the Iraq authorization, fans of Saddam? Now you realize why your comment was dopey.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Qadaffi was co-operating the best he could when he was snuffed. Got a raw deal you'd have to say.
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He was a terrorist and a clown. His own people did it. I don't approve of the death penalty and I certainly don't approve of the method, but it's not like another nation did it.
 
ecofarm said:
He was a terrorist and a clown. His own people did it. I don't approve of the death penalty and I certainly don't approve of the method, but it's not like another nation did it.
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Another country armed and supported the rebels and it's initials were USA. Had no clue what they were doing typical of the Obama administration.
 
apdst said:
Should we invade Zambia, now? :lamo
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It would be for easier than invading Syria. Weren't you for that before being against it?
 
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